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Frank Lee wrote:OKC loses… they will target Giannis and certainly have the ammo to bag him
Sunsdeuce wrote:KdoubleDees23 wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:Get off your high horse hero and practice what you preach. Worry about basketball.
You stop bringing politics into it! Quit crying! I fought for this country and if Make America Great Again offends you because you don't like the dude, be better and get some anger management classes. You are what is wrong with this country and you are the reason for the divide. get some help and stick to basketball
I come here to get away from the news, and the crap that is going on, then to see you posting about political stuff. You may need a break from this page or a psychiatrist
GO SUNS
Get some help. Seriously! Maybe take a vacation. Take a cruise from the Gulf of Mexico to Greenland. You two are ones who endlessly bring up politics and attacking me yet point fingers at everyone else. Screaming about “what’s wrong with this country!”
(FYI: I served 20 years of my life on Active duty Army up till 2022 and now my son serves and is currently deployed to Syria. We both served so people are allowed to have any political view they want and be allowed to protest. People protested me when I came home from Iraq BUT that’s why I served so they COULD protest. I served so people can be proud to be whoever they want to be. Maybe you served to oppress people, that’s on you. I haven’t said anything for pages and you two are OBSESSED and keep bringing up politics. wake up and smell what you're shoveling!)
I’m not gonna reply to anymore of your political obsessed posts! Infact, two are going on the ignore list. Best of luck to you two in life!
Sunsdeuce wrote:RaptorLakerJay wrote:
Well then Houston can flounder getting booted in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs for the next 5 years. KD is the best chance they have to be a true contender. Onto the next team.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:This isn't rocket science or any kind of big time conundrum on what the Suns should do here! IF the Suns obviously aren't getting their 1sts back from Houston, then the best, most strategic counter and responsible move would be to take the actual best offer that IS AVAILABLE!!! ( Bird in hand)!!
And that deal is clearly the Toronto deal of either Quickly or Barrett/ Poetl/ filler AND the 9th pick !! It's simply the highest and most premium lotto pick being offered that we can leverage in a trade back scenario on draft night ( or prior to) in order to garner more assets and better positional depth pieces.
This would be a critical smart move for us because without being able to get our 1sts back from Houston ( EFFF HOUSTON)!!! the best thing we fan do is acquire premium assets and then leverage those assets to upgrade our roster and also losd up on young, athletic cost controlled youth.
This would vault us into the playoffs more rapidly prior to the 27 draft and dramatically mitigate/ reduce the overall value of the 27' 1st. And buy us more time to also keep improving and mitigate the 29' 1st too!
Make the smartest and obvious choice and take the Toronto deal quick before it's off the table!!! The 9th pick is better than any other pick being offered. And Barrett is still only a 25 yr old athletic wing that put up near all star level production ( there's value in that)!!
And Poetl is still a very functional solid 7 ft defensive starting caliber center putting up around a (per 36) of 17/ 11/ 3 assists/ 1.5 blocks. And both players contracts expire at the same time in 27 along with Beal's.
So if we didn't trade them ( and the 9th pick) to Brooklyn for Johnson and Claxton and multiple picks, and we held onto them, we could generate around #49 million + Beal's 57 million, giving us upwards of 106 million to completely revamp/ reload our roster in the very loaded 27' summer of free agency.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
So now if they're unwilling to include Poetl, how do they make a deal work?? The deal would then have to become Quickly/ Barrett/ Castleton/ 9th pick/ 39th pick/ TOR 28' 1st.
Then I'm trading Barrett/ O'neale/ Richards to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson/ Nik Claxton/ 19th pick/ 26th pick/ 36th pick AND Philly 27' 1st (Top 8 protected).
And then I'm trading Quickly to New Orleans for Herb Jones/ Olynyk/ 23rd pick.
OR
To Utah for Collins/ Hendricks/ 21st pick.
Brian Windhorst says the Suns could keep Kevin Durant past the NBA Draft.
“There's a possibility that the Suns will get to Wednesday & not like any of this & just hold onto KD past the draft & see if situations change. I don't think they want to take a less than a premium offer”
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
So now if they're unwilling to include Poetl, how do they make a deal work?? The deal would then have to become Quickly/ Barrett/ Castleton/ 9th pick/ 39th pick/ TOR 28' 1st.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Then I'm trading Barrett/ O'neale/ Richards to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson/ Nik Claxton/ 19th pick/ 26th pick/ 36th pick AND Philly 27' 1st (Top 8 protected).
Ghost of Kleine wrote:And then I'm trading Quickly to New Orleans for Herb Jones/ Olynyk/ 23rd pick.
OR
To Utah for Collins/ Hendricks/ 21st pick.
Sam Amick: “I think the Timberwolves are confused because in February, the Suns were sending a message to Minnesota that Kevin would be OK going there. They got that intel. Except found out that ‘Oh wait, you’re really not talking to Kevin. You don’t actually know how he feels.’”
thamadkant wrote:Rockets can't afford Giannis and they ain't getting Jalen Brown from Celtics.
KD is their most realistic addition, with Booker excepted, to get competitive enough to push up in the western conference.
This is a game of chicken. Riley won't offer Ware until Rockets offer picks.
BobbieL wrote:Slim Charless wrote:mkot wrote:
Because the 2-time MVP is still at the peak of his power who had carried his team to a championship as a leader and number 1 option on the team. IF they lose Game 7 I'd include Chet in a package for his service. I think you massively underrated Giannis, which has been the common theme around the league this past season as his team hasn't been winning in the playoffs, but he is consistently the best player on the court almost every night. I think it's pretty safe to say that Chet probably will never be a dominant force Giannis is on both ends, SGA is in his prime, JDub is entering his prime, Giannis is a perfect fit to form a big 3, a guard, a wing and a big. They may want to trade Hartenstein for whatever and promote Jaylin Williams to the starting lineup as he will be a better frontcourt partner for Giannis.
Chet and Harty is not enough to get Giannis. So what else are you offering? Cause that ain't it.
Draft picks a plenty
Slim Charless wrote:BobbieL wrote:Slim Charless wrote:
Chet and Harty is not enough to get Giannis. So what else are you offering? Cause that ain't it.
Draft picks a plenty
Meh.
Weak draft picks from a high level team. They'll need actual players, which means they'll have to gut their team.
Slim Charless wrote:Frank Lee wrote:OKC loses… they will target Giannis and certainly have the ammo to bag him
I don't think MIL will trade him. I also think he wants a bigger market to play in.
bwgood77 wrote:It's really too bad Ishbia can't find an Ishbia-type owner to trade KD to and get a haul.
thamadkant wrote:
They won't. Because they need spacing for J Dub and Shai.
Chet has been awful this playoff and finals run... for someone supposedly a franchise big man, he's a liability.
tester551 wrote:Been thinking a bit more about this:Sam Amick: “I think the Timberwolves are confused because in February, the Suns were sending a message to Minnesota that Kevin would be OK going there. They got that intel. Except found out that ‘Oh wait, you’re really not talking to Kevin. You don’t actually know how he feels.’”
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1lfklbg/sam_amick_i_think_the_timberwolves_are_confused/
I think the Suns FO is severely overplaying their hand here. It feels like all the rumors being leaked are from the Suns side and are much better than what is actually being offered. We have all these quotes from the Suns that they are 'close' and just need 'one more piece' added to the deal... is just a smoke screen trying to get teams to bid against each other.
My guess at this point - is that KD returns this season. Suns make one more effort to trade him right before the deadline and end up with a mediocre 2026 pick as the long-term value
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.