The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

[mkot]

Chet and Harty is not enough to get Giannis. So what else are you offering? Cause that ain't it.

Draft picks a plenty

Meh.

Weak draft picks from a high level team. They'll need actual players, which means they'll have to gut their team.

2025 Miami unprotected 1st (#15)
2025 Clipper 1st (#24)
2026 Philly 1-4 protected 1st
2026 Utah 1-8 protected 1st
2027 Denver 1-7 protected 1st
2027 Clipper unprotected 1st swap
2028 Dallas unprotected 1st swap

all their own 1st and much more...

[Qwigglez]

I would be willing to trade KD to Raptors without the 9th pick coming back to Suns TBH.

A four-team trade if Suns get under the 2nd apron...

Suns get:
Cam Johnson
Immanuel Quickley
Jakob Poeltl

Raptors get:
Kevin Durant
Deandre Ayton

Nets get:
RJ Barrett

Blazers get:
Grayson Allen
Royce O'Neal
9th pick

DA is going to be a free agent in the summer of 2026, so Blazers cash in on DA. Nets do not want to sign D'Lo and prefer a backcourt of Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett. Raptors love having height, wingspan and players that can switch (and make FT's) in KD, Barnes, Ingram, and DA... throw in a little Dick in there too, and plenty to love!


Suns got a starting five...
Quickley
Booker
Dunn
Cam Jo
Poeltl

Beal becomes the first player to ever win 6th man of the year and MVP. Leads Suns to first ever mid-season tournament winners! Suns lose in play-in, but they can run it back again the following season with a new head coach.

[BobbieL]

I would be willing to trade KD to Raptors without the 9th pick coming back to Suns TBH.

A four-team trade if Suns get under the 2nd apron...

Suns get:
Cam Johnson
Immanuel Quickley
Jakob Poeltl

Raptors get:
Kevin Durant
Deandre Ayton

Nets get:
RJ Barrett

Blazers get:
Grayson Allen
Royce O'Neal
9th pick

DA is going to be a free agent in the summer of 2026, so Blazers cash in on DA. Nets do not want to sign D'Lo and prefer a backcourt of Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett. Raptors love having height, wingspan and players that can switch (and make FT's) in KD, Barnes, Ingram, and DA... throw in a little Dick in there too, and plenty to love!


Suns got a starting five...
Quickley
Booker
Dunn
Cam Jo
Poeltl

Beal becomes the first player to ever win 6th man of the year and MVP. Leads Suns to first ever mid-season tournament winners! Suns lose in play-in, but they can run it back again the following season with a new head coach.

Actually like it even not getting a pick.

[tester551]

I would be willing to trade KD to Raptors without the 9th pick coming back to Suns TBH.

A four-team trade if Suns get under the 2nd apron...

Suns get:
Cam Johnson
Immanuel Quickley
Jakob Poeltl

Raptors get:
Kevin Durant
Deandre Ayton

Nets get:
RJ Barrett

Blazers get:
Grayson Allen
Royce O'Neal
9th pick

DA is going to be a free agent in the summer of 2026, so Blazers cash in on DA. Nets do not want to sign D'Lo and prefer a backcourt of Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett. Raptors love having height, wingspan and players that can switch (and make FT's) in KD, Barnes, Ingram, and DA... throw in a little Dick in there too, and plenty to love!


Suns got a starting five...
Quickley
Booker
Dunn
Cam Jo
Poeltl

Beal becomes the first player to ever win 6th man of the year and MVP. Leads Suns to first ever mid-season tournament winners! Suns lose in play-in, but they can run it back again the following season with a new head coach.

I like this.
Take it to the trade board and see what the reaction is.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

OKC,
Please choke.
Please call.

....You have so many youngsters.... maybe, too many? Perhaps you could use some more.... national press?

Go Pacers!

[thamadkant]

They won't. Because they need spacing for J Dub and Shai.

Jaylin William is a stretch 4/5, and they have enough shooting, or they trade for one. Harterstein is a non-shooter too and he works fine in their starting lineup.

Chet has been awful this playoff and finals run... for someone supposedly a franchise big man, he's a liability.

I don't want to hear any comparison to Wemby. The offensive ceiling is not even close and his 1v1 defense is vastly overrated. Even Miles Turner can push him around.

No Jaylin Williams is a 9th player off the bench.


I think Thunder would benefit by trading for Lauri Markannen..... he's someone they could use.

[tester551]

Aside from the 'we can hang on to him for one more year' bit, this is right.

Read on Twitter

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

[BobbieL]

I would be willing to trade KD to Raptors without the 9th pick coming back to Suns TBH.

A four-team trade if Suns get under the 2nd apron...

Suns get:
Cam Johnson
Immanuel Quickley
Jakob Poeltl

Raptors get:
Kevin Durant
Deandre Ayton

Nets get:
RJ Barrett

Blazers get:
Grayson Allen
Royce O'Neal
9th pick

DA is going to be a free agent in the summer of 2026, so Blazers cash in on DA. Nets do not want to sign D'Lo and prefer a backcourt of Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett. Raptors love having height, wingspan and players that can switch (and make FT's) in KD, Barnes, Ingram, and DA... throw in a little Dick in there too, and plenty to love!


Suns got a starting five...
Quickley
Booker
Dunn
Cam Jo
Poeltl

Beal becomes the first player to ever win 6th man of the year and MVP. Leads Suns to first ever mid-season tournament winners! Suns lose in play-in, but they can run it back again the following season with a new head coach.

I like this.
Take it to the trade board and see what the reaction is.

I really like the above trade... I mean, really do.

[One_and_Done]

Aside from the 'we can hang on to him for one more year' bit, this is right.

Read on Twitter

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

Imagine Ishbia trying to play poker with Riley, the analytic driven Rockets FO, and the faceless Spurs black box. The Suns are so outgunned it's ridiculous. You just know they're going to lose any deal.

[MrMiyagi]

Trade KD for Lebron

[TeamTragic]

Who are these new clowns posting here?

GTFO

[BobbieL]

Aside from the 'we can hang on to him for one more year' bit, this is right.

Read on Twitter

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

I truly wonder what they were expecting
I was always expecting something like a veteran expiring, a young player and picks

If the Spurs truly offered Barnes, Sochan, 14 and Vassell - that was about the best I thought they would get

[mkot]

No Jaylin Williams is a 9th player off the bench.


I think Thunder would benefit by trading for Lauri Markannen..... he's someone they could use.

I maybe overrating him a bit here but I really think he can be the next big off the bench for most team. It's just that the Thunder have 2 big starting and JDub playing the small ball five so his role and minutes are very limited.

[BobbieL]

Celtics for Durant?

Read on Twitter

Portzingis and Pritchard to the Suns
probably would still need another 6-8m from another team

some team would need to take Royce or Allen
Porzingis gets injured a lot so that makes sense to trade for him!

[thamadkant]

No Jaylin Williams is a 9th player off the bench.


I think Thunder would benefit by trading for Lauri Markannen..... he's someone they could use.

I maybe overrating him but I really think he can be the next big off the bench for most team. It's just that the Thunder have 2 big starting and JDub playing the small ball five so his role and minutes are very limited.

JDub is Jaylen Williams who is the Pippen role for Thunder.

The other dude is just Jalen Williams, the guy who looks like Xzibit

[One_and_Done]

Aside from the 'we can hang on to him for one more year' bit, this is right.

Read on Twitter

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

I truly wonder what they were expecting
I was always expecting something like a veteran expiring, a young player and picks

If the Spurs truly offered Barnes, Sochan, 14 and Vassell - that was about the best I thought they would get

Except the Spurs haven't offered Sochan. The actual offers on the table seem to be:

Spurs - Barnes, Vassell, #14, and maybe some 2nds
Rockets - Green & #10
Heat: Wiggins, Jovic OR Jasquez, some scraps like a bad 1st, but not Ware.

I'm not sure any other offers exist. It seems teams like the Wolves & Raps have offers, IF Durant is willing to extend or at least commit to playing hard and not being a malcontent, but so far he seems unwilling to make any such assurance. We know more about what the Raptors and Wolves offers wouldn't involve than what they would. The fact that the Raptors won't even put in Poeltl is pretty telling.

Which of the 3 offers above would you prefer?

[mkot]

Porzingis is a negative asset at this point.

[thamadkant]

Celtics for Durant?

Read on Twitter

Portzingis and Pritchard to the Suns
probably would still need another 6-8m from another team

some team would need to take Royce or Allen
Porzingis gets injured a lot so that makes sense to trade for him!

That's the worst package of them all.

Pritchard is a really smart player who is best at running the celtics X and O.... he is not talented enough to help Suns. Porzingis now injury prone.... celtics doesn't even know what is wrong with him.

[thamadkant]

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

I truly wonder what they were expecting
I was always expecting something like a veteran expiring, a young player and picks

If the Spurs truly offered Barnes, Sochan, 14 and Vassell - that was about the best I thought they would get

Except the Spurs haven't offered Sochan. The actual offers on the table seem to be:

Spurs - Barnes, Vassell, #14, and maybe some 2nds
Rockets - Green & #10
Heat: Wiggins, Jovic OR Jasquez, some scraps like a bad 1st, but not Ware.

I'm not sure any other offers exist. It seems teams like the Wolves & Raps have offers, IF Durant is willing to extend or at least commit to playing hard and not being a malcontent, but so far he seems unwilling to make any such assurance. We know more about what the Raptors and Wolves offers wouldn't involve than what they would. The fact that the Raptors won't even put in Poeltl is pretty telling.

Which of the 3 offers above would you prefer?

Don't even think Spurs offered pick 14.

[BobbieL]

Propaganda coming directly from the Suns FO.....

They seriously overplayed their hand.

I truly wonder what they were expecting
I was always expecting something like a veteran expiring, a young player and picks

If the Spurs truly offered Barnes, Sochan, 14 and Vassell - that was about the best I thought they would get

Except the Spurs haven't offered Sochan. The actual offers on the table seem to be:

Spurs - Barnes, Vassell, #14, and maybe some 2nds
Rockets - Green & #10
Heat: Wiggins, Jovic OR Jasquez, some scraps like a bad 1st, but not Ware.

I'm not sure any other offers exist. It seems teams like the Wolves & Raps have offers, IF Durant is willing to extend or at least commit to playing hard and not being a malcontent, but so far he seems unwilling to make any such assurance. We know more about what the Raptors and Wolves offers wouldn't involve than what they would. The fact that the Raptors won't even put in Poeltl is pretty telling.

Which of the 3 offers above would you prefer?

Of the above, I would take the SPurs if I knew I could flip Vassell for something that rounds out the roster more

And though I posted about the Celtics - not a good partner. Porz is hurt damn much
And Jrue should have been what the Suns got for Ayton - not that crappy package