Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Darren]

Vassell is better than Christie at 2. And the Mavs could end the offseason early. Just extend Kyrie, then everything is set.

[ACMFFL]

I suspect in mr. Harrison (twisted) mind role players shouldn't make anything more than MLE money.
That's why I expect he will ship both PJ/Gaff and we know how weak of a negotiator is our beloved GM, and historically most of the time we dealt with BOS, we got badly fleeced.

ATL: Gafford, #28
(#22)

BOS: Washington, Martin
(Jrue, Hauser, #28)

BRK: Hardy, #22, 2 future 2nds (one via CHI, the other via DAL)
(#26, #27, cap space)

CHI: Marshall
(Smith, 1 future 2nd)

DAL: Jrue, Hauser, Smith, #26, #27
(Washington, Gafford, Martin, Marshall, 2030 PHI 2nd)

Lively / Smith / Powell
AD / Hauser / Fleming
Flagg / Christie / OMax
Klay / Jrue / Exum
Irving / Clayton / Williams

I hate to trade PJ at this juncture, we lose too much value for my blood, extended PJ is definitely worth way more than that. My priority #2 for this offseason is to extend him, I think that with incentives we could offer a very nice deal to PJ, something like 4/88 + 15% in LBT.

[Darren]

That's awful. I don't know who's coming back from the trade. Jrue may get you 1 year window with 2 year cap burden. To dumb PJ and Gafford for 2 picks who're not even better than Hardy. That's worrisome.

[Darren]

I'd rather keep the duo and compete in contract year than 26 and 27 pick. Beyond the top 10, the draft prospects are far from good this year.

[ACMFFL]

That's awful. I don't know who's coming back from the trade. Jrue may get you 1 year window with 2 year cap burden. To dumb PJ and Gafford for 2 picks who're not even better than Hardy. That's worrisome.

Ofc it's awful, that's what I expect from clueless Nico.

[Darren]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

[ACMFFL]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

[Mavrelous]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

No reason to extend Gafford...
AD and Lively + vet min C (or Powell) is enough for Center.
Right now TPMLE is unavailable because of the 2nd Apron.
I'd trade Gafford + 2 2nds to ATL TPE for #22, draft a prospect and use the TPMLE on a guard.
PJ should be extended, I just don't think he takes the extension, it's like Reaves with the Lakers, their teams can't offer fair market price extension, so only hope they choose the security over bigger payday a year from now.

[ACMFFL]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

No reason to extend Gafford...
AD and Lively + vet min C (or Powell) is enough for Center.
Right now TPMLE is unavailable because of the 2nd Apron.
I'd trade Gafford + 2 2nds to ATL TPE for #22, draft a prospect and use the TPMLE on a guard.
PJ should be extended, I just don't think he takes the extension, it's like Reaves with the Lakers, their teams can't offer fair market price extension, so only hope they choose the security over bigger payday a year from now.

That Hawks deal sounds good and fair, I like it, but I still don't trust AD/Liv health at all, that's why I'm bit hesitant.
In your opinion, incentives couldn't help the Mavs in order to extend PJ? If I'm not wrong we could exceed the 140% limit with LTBE and ULTBE, but maybe PJ just wants a guaranteed big payday..

[Mavrelous]

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

No reason to extend Gafford...
AD and Lively + vet min C (or Powell) is enough for Center.
Right now TPMLE is unavailable because of the 2nd Apron.
I'd trade Gafford + 2 2nds to ATL TPE for #22, draft a prospect and use the TPMLE on a guard.
PJ should be extended, I just don't think he takes the extension, it's like Reaves with the Lakers, their teams can't offer fair market price extension, so only hope they choose the security over bigger payday a year from now.

That Hawks deal sounds good and fair, I like it, but I still don't trust AD/Liv health.
In your opinion, incentives couldn't help the Mavs in order to extend PJ? If I'm not wrong we could exceed the 140% limit with LTBE and ULTBE, but maybe PJ just wants a guaranteed big payday..

No idea, for sure they can add trade kicker.

[Darren]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

That's true. Those teams in the Finals are equipped with 7-8 two-wayed contributors. That's not someone you can get from 15 pick onward. PJ and Gafford are underrated, we'd better keep both.

[Darren]

I haven't give in on OMax just yet. OMax is on path to be better than Kuminga. Minutes are limited for OMax, I admit.

[Archx]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

Unfortunately there is not enough playing time for everyone. Minutes distribution would probably be all over the place and there would be no continuity with the lineups. Sure, injuries are suddenly a huge problem with this team but if we put that aside, players need minutes to perform, Flagg will need a lot of minutes to develop. So, stacking roster with centers and wings would make no sense. Like i said, Nico doesn't have to overthink, he just needs to get a good package for Gafford that hopefully brings back someone that can playmake.

[Captain_Obvious]

I wonder how a path to the full MLE could look like? The target would be Ty Jerome.

It is assumed we need to shed around 20 mil to get a shot at the FMLE.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=DLLSSports

I think that is doable - obviously they need to talk to Ty first and assess the interest. But he would be a great fit here.

[Mavrelous]

I wonder how a path to the full MLE could look like? The target would be Ty Jerome.

It is assumed we need to shed around 20 mil to get a shot at the FMLE.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=DLLSSports

I think that is doable - obviously they need to talk to Ty first and assess the interest. But he would be a great fit here.

Gafford + 2 2nds to ATL for #22
Hardy+ Powell + #22 to WAS TPE for 2 2nds

Basically, clear Gafford, Hardy and Powell.
That's enough to have 8-10 mils to throw at Jerome...

[Mr B]

It’s going to be very interesting to see what contract Kyrie ends up with. How much does he ask for and how much does he get. This will be his last shot at winning another title. That’s why I think he’ll opt out of his contract and resign a 2+1 deal. He’s not going to want to go somewhere else and start all over, or go somewhere else and join someone else’s team. With Luka gone this is his team.

So with that in mind how much does he ask for and how much does he get? Would he be willing to take less to help the team cap wise? When I say less I mean less than $40M per. Would he sign for $35M per? 3 years for $105M (2+1). Would offering Kyrie that be an insult?

[Archx]

It’s going to be very interesting to see what contract Kyrie ends up with. How much does he ask for and how much does he get. This will be his last shot at winning another title. That’s why I think he’ll opt out of his contract and resign a 2+1 deal. He’s not going to want to go somewhere else and start all over, or go somewhere else and join someone else’s team. With Luka gone this is his team.

So with that in mind how much does he ask for and how much does he get? Would he be willing to take less to help the team cap wise? When I say less I mean less than $40M per. Would he sign for $35M per? 3 years for $105M (2+1). Would offering Kyrie that be an insult?

No one knows exactly what Kyrie will do but Stein said there was ZERO chatter or rumors of him leaving. Contract is speculated to be at 42M.

[Darren]

Most players are one dimensional with some red flags. Those are unlikely rotation players for a playoff team. Unless you only want cheap players, you don't trade starters for these picks.

If I were our GM, I'd just extend both Gaff and PJ, dump Hardy, and sign a stop gap PG to the TXMLE or if possible, trade Caleb/Powell/OMax/1 1st for someone better. Yeah team is gonna be expensive af by 26/27 but who cares? Adelson pocket is deep enough to sustain a very expensive team.
I don't think we need anything drastic, we have ton of talents, we just need to improve our backcourt.

No reason to extend Gafford...
AD and Lively + vet min C (or Powell) is enough for Center.
Right now TPMLE is unavailable because of the 2nd Apron.
I'd trade Gafford + 2 2nds to ATL TPE for #22, draft a prospect and use the TPMLE on a guard.
PJ should be extended, I just don't think he takes the extension, it's like Reaves with the Lakers, their teams can't offer fair market price extension, so only hope they choose the security over bigger payday a year from now.

I think the average price has dropped with almost all teams over the cap. Players do not have much leverage to sign as UFA for fat contract. It's more likely around 20-25M per range.

[daoneandonly]

Get rid of
AD
Martin
Klay
Hardy

If Atl would trade a pick for Gaff, do it

[Teffer10]

Get rid of
AD
Martin
Klay
Hardy

If Atl would trade a pick for Gaff, do it

Yep, accumulate all of the draft picks and/or young players you can from these guys and start rebuilding this thing around Flagg immediately.

There is no reason in hell to trade guys like PJ and Gafford for win-now washed up guys in there 30s unless assets that align with the Flagg/Lively/Christie timeline come back in return.