Dwight says Jordan 48 inch vertical claim is a lie

[pepe1991]

Jordan probably didn't have 48 inch vert
Howard spent whole career on heavy dosages of steroids

But i guess he won't make any comments on that.

[Showtime 80]

I mean he's right. Pippen did a longer free throw line dunk.

LeBron did a longer in game free throw dunk.

I don't think Jordan had a vertical that was much bigger than either LeBron or Pippen..

Kobe had a 38 inch vertical, Jordan probably had 4 inches on Kobe based on the similar moves they had.

Jordan had a slightly bigger jump and the ability to shoot the jumpshot at high arc and with one hand. That's why he was better than Kobe.

See this is the crap that that you really have to read to believe because some people think this stuff hasn’t been documented. Let’s look at the tape:

https://youtu.be/rQLUvMNRQ-o?si=I9TTZa4U0PBGOy14

https://youtu.be/vSgRcF7IpS0?si=-98QZmrK19XSzpvp

https://youtu.be/fhyTNWKt0r8?si=rrciJoexCawe9T5u

Both Pip and MJ have their feet right at the FT line that’s why they had to get that extra stretch of the arm to complete it while LeBron’s entire left foot a then some is beyond the FT line so not even close while also factoring in MJ was 3 inches shorter than both of them and you get the idea of how insane his leaping ability was.

[zimpy27]

I mean he's right. Pippen did a longer free throw line dunk.

LeBron did a longer in game free throw dunk.

I don't think Jordan had a vertical that was much bigger than either LeBron or Pippen..

Kobe had a 38 inch vertical, Jordan probably had 4 inches on Kobe based on the similar moves they had.

Jordan had a slightly bigger jump and the ability to shoot the jumpshot at high arc and with one hand. That's why he was better than Kobe.

See this is the crap that that you really have to read to believe because some people think this stuff hasn’t been documented. Let’s look at the tape:

https://youtu.be/rQLUvMNRQ-o?si=I9TTZa4U0PBGOy14

https://youtu.be/vSgRcF7IpS0?si=-98QZmrK19XSzpvp

https://youtu.be/fhyTNWKt0r8?si=rrciJoexCawe9T5u

Both Pip and MJ have their feet right at the FT line that’s why they had to get that extra stretch of the arm to complete it while LeBron’s entire left foot a then some is beyond the FT line so not even close while also factoring in MJ was 3 inches shorter than both of them and you get the idea of how insane his leaping ability was.

Pippens was longer in dunk contest.
LeBron has the longer in game ft dunk of all 3.

You refuted nothing I said. You can't compare in game (dribbling the ball) to a pre-prepared full court run without dribbling.

I think what you're spouting is the crap we have to deal with.

[Showtime 80]

I mean he's right. Pippen did a longer free throw line dunk.

LeBron did a longer in game free throw dunk.

I don't think Jordan had a vertical that was much bigger than either LeBron or Pippen..

Kobe had a 38 inch vertical, Jordan probably had 4 inches on Kobe based on the similar moves they had.

Jordan had a slightly bigger jump and the ability to shoot the jumpshot at high arc and with one hand. That's why he was better than Kobe.

See this is the crap that that you really have to read to believe because some people think this stuff hasn’t been documented. Let’s look at the tape:

https://youtu.be/rQLUvMNRQ-o?si=I9TTZa4U0PBGOy14

https://youtu.be/vSgRcF7IpS0?si=-98QZmrK19XSzpvp

https://youtu.be/fhyTNWKt0r8?si=rrciJoexCawe9T5u

Both Pip and MJ have their feet right at the FT line that’s why they had to get that extra stretch of the arm to complete it while LeBron’s entire left foot a then some is beyond the FT line so not even close while also factoring in MJ was 3 inches shorter than both of them and you get the idea of how insane his leaping ability was.

Pippens was longer in dunk contest.
LeBron has the longer in game ft dunk of all 3.

You refuted nothing I said. You can't compare in game (dribbling the ball) to a pre-prepared full court run without dribbling.

I think what you're spouting is the crap we have to deal with.

Pippen took off exactly at the spot Jordan took off in 1985, exactly the same spot.

In LeBron’s case that was not a FT line dunk, impressive in game dunk but his foot was well inside that line and this is the only evidence of him attempting a FT line dunk since he was too chicken **** to pull it off in an actual contest.

[zimpy27]

See this is the crap that that you really have to read to believe because some people think this stuff hasn’t been documented. Let’s look at the tape:

https://youtu.be/rQLUvMNRQ-o?si=I9TTZa4U0PBGOy14

https://youtu.be/vSgRcF7IpS0?si=-98QZmrK19XSzpvp

https://youtu.be/fhyTNWKt0r8?si=rrciJoexCawe9T5u

Both Pip and MJ have their feet right at the FT line that’s why they had to get that extra stretch of the arm to complete it while LeBron’s entire left foot a then some is beyond the FT line so not even close while also factoring in MJ was 3 inches shorter than both of them and you get the idea of how insane his leaping ability was.

Pippens was longer in dunk contest.
LeBron has the longer in game ft dunk of all 3.

You refuted nothing I said. You can't compare in game (dribbling the ball) to a pre-prepared full court run without dribbling.

I think what you're spouting is the crap we have to deal with.

Pippen took off exactly at the spot Jordan took off in 1985, exactly the same spot.

In LeBron’s case that was not a FT line dunk, impressive in game dunk but his foot was well inside that line and this is the only evidence of him attempting a FT line dunk since he was too chicken **** to pull it off in an actual contest.

Jordan's foot was further over the line that Scotties.

LeBron took off mid game and could have dunked his elbow. I think Pippen and LeBron were probably at 41-42 inches


Point is that Jordan had a great jump but not 48 inches. More like 42-44 inches.

[druggas]

It's obviously BS, just like Wilt's supposed 50 inch vertical.

As some others have already mentioned in the thread, you can look on YouTube and see guys that just do dunking as a profession. That's what actual 48 or 50 inch verticals look like.

We never saw Jordan or Wilt do anything like some of the dunks and jumps those guys do.

How many times did you see Wilt play?

[FollowTheSound]

A 48’ vert would put Jordan’s head half a foot above the rim, which he obviously never came close to doing. He probably peaked around 40, if that.

The only guys with 48’ verticals are those 5’11 YouTube dunkers. NBA players are too big to get up that high.

Keon Johnson has a 48 inch vert as measured at the NBA combine

[Showtime 80]

Pippens was longer in dunk contest.
LeBron has the longer in game ft dunk of all 3.

You refuted nothing I said. You can't compare in game (dribbling the ball) to a pre-prepared full court run without dribbling.

I think what you're spouting is the crap we have to deal with.

Pippen took off exactly at the spot Jordan took off in 1985, exactly the same spot.

In LeBron’s case that was not a FT line dunk, impressive in game dunk but his foot was well inside that line and this is the only evidence of him attempting a FT line dunk since he was too chicken **** to pull it off in an actual contest.

Jordan's foot was further over the line that Scotties.

LeBron took off mid game and could have dunked his elbow. I think Pippen and LeBron were probably at 41-42 inches


Point is that Jordan had a great jump but not 48 inches. More like 42-44 inches.

Slow the playback down, Pippen and MJ take off at the exact same spot from the line, any difference is negligible.

LeBron has always had hops no doubt specially for a guy his size but an entire foot and half inside the FT makes a huge difference. Why didn’t he enter one dunk contest to try and pull off an MJ/Pippen FT line dunk? His McDonald’s dunk contest performance sucked and he didn’t have the confidence to try a FT line dunk then.

[7seventynine9]

Not sure why it matters, hang time was far more important to his game. It's not like he was going straight up, much.

On another note, I always hate when guys can jump out of the gym but don't even use it. Gerald Green could jump, but it was not part of his game.

[jazzfan1971]

Stuff gets exaggerated. Every time I see someone talk about a Dunk from the free throw line I go look at the tape and it isn't.

[Djoker]

Verticals are measured outside of a game setting, without a ball and jumping straight up. In an in-game situation guys may only get up 35-38 inches in the air just because there is horizontal motion to the jump, the ball being a factor, fatigue etc. Heck Carter in the 2000 dunk contest never jumped higher than 37 inches. But is it plausible that Carter had a 48 inch vertical too? Absolutely.

[Mirotic12]

It's obviously BS, just like Wilt's supposed 50 inch vertical.

As some others have already mentioned in the thread, you can look on YouTube and see guys that just do dunking as a profession. That's what actual 48 or 50 inch verticals look like.

We never saw Jordan or Wilt do anything like some of the dunks and jumps those guys do.

How many times did you see Wilt play?

Zero times.

But I've watched plenty of his old game footage.

[Chokic]

Vieux Sanneh 6'4 highschool hooper class of 2025 has a legit 50" max running vert and you could use him as a reference to gauge players max vert.

I very much doubt that. Even Keon Johnson’s supposed 48 inch running vert is questioned by people because his arms supposedly measured extremely short for a person his height and people think that was suspicious because it would boost his vertical measurement. Apparently the combine tests are easy to game.

I dont usually go off combine results bc as you said players can cheese their standing reach ala reed sheppard. Im strictly eye test from real game footage. Keon Johnson never displayed anywhere close to 48" vert in college. Vieux Sanneh you can see his vert in full display in game and warmup lines.

[Rust_Cohle]

I mean he's right. Pippen did a longer free throw line dunk.

LeBron did a longer in game free throw dunk.

I don't think Jordan had a vertical that was much bigger than either LeBron or Pippen..

Kobe had a 38 inch vertical, Jordan probably had 4 inches on Kobe based on the similar moves they had.

Jordan had a slightly bigger jump and the ability to shoot the jumpshot at high arc and with one hand. That's why he was better than Kobe.

Jordan's ability to hang in the air alongside hand size is what gave him up a leg up on pretty much anyone in NBA history.

[druggas]

It's obviously BS, just like Wilt's supposed 50 inch vertical.

As some others have already mentioned in the thread, you can look on YouTube and see guys that just do dunking as a profession. That's what actual 48 or 50 inch verticals look like.

We never saw Jordan or Wilt do anything like some of the dunks and jumps those guys do.

How many times did you see Wilt play?

Zero times.

But I've watched plenty of his old game footage.

I doubt that.

[ChumboChappati]

Jordan was not the saint some of us think

[WinterSoldier]

A 48’ vert would put Jordan’s head half a foot above the rim, which he obviously never came close to doing. He probably peaked around 40, if that.

The only guys with 48’ verticals are those 5’11 YouTube dunkers. NBA players are too big to get up that high.

Keon Johnson has a 48 inch vert as measured at the NBA combine

Even Keon Johnsons was based on 8'1" standing reach which is absurdly low for 6'4" guard. It's likely a fabrication of not reaching to his full extent (which happens quite a bit in combines) than a true vertical.

The next highest ever recorded in the combine was 44.5 by which was done by several players.

Jordan was a great athlete but not 44+ vertical type of athlete.

[SHAQ32]

Dwight's comment is stupid. Jordan's head would be at the rim at 42". Another six inches would just have him at the top of the box, which is two feet tall.

The hell is he even saying? And it's not like Dwight was maxing his vert in-game either.

He needs to sit down and STFU.

One could only wish for that guy to sit down and STFU.

[thamadkant]

Jordan would not be Jordan in the social media era

You mean when so many hacks take things for literal and cry if it's not or slightly off?

[RaptorPride]

Jordan would not be Jordan in the social media era

You mean when so many hacks take things for literal and cry if it's not or slightly off?

He would not be looked at as some god. His character and off court problems would be blown up everywhere. And you know he takes thing personally so who know how he would react to all that. Maybe pull a KD and make fake accounts to talk **** back or even on his main.