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Thaddy wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:We have to leave this draft with our back-up 5
Khaman
Wolf
Queen
Asa
Yang
That's my order of interest in bigs.
Why not Fleming?
TimeForChange wrote:I think it’s Asa Newell who the Raptors really want if they trade down
RapsFanInOhio wrote:Random 3:00am thoughts.
- I didn’t initially buy that they would seriously consider moving down, but I’m warming up to it. I think it’s unlikely because I’m optimistically hoping someone they’re high on falls (Fears, Maluach), but there’s a lot of smoke about moving down, and I think they see not a huge drop off from 9 to say 20, especially if they’re going after a big.
- I wonder if they’re lower on Queen than I previously thought because of the defensive limitations. To reach his full potential, Queen is going to need the ball in his hands a lot early on, and he’s not going to get that on this roster. So you’re looking at spending the 9th pick on a G League guy, and I’m just not buying that. I think they want the first round pick to contribute this season, not toil away in the G League.
- compare that to a guy like Wolf, who got basically can slot into that backup center role and develop his shot on the go. He’s a good passer, too, so he fits Darko’s scheme. I think they would rather that at 15 than taking a flyer on Queen at 9 - they would inch further away from the tax line and pickup some other asset in the process.
- I think there are going to be teams that will want to go up and get Noa or Demin at 9.
Khaman Maluach | 7-1 big | 18 years old | Duke
College head coach No. 1 (his team played Duke): I actually think he has the biggest upside of anybody in the draft. … He’s huge. And he’s long. He’s a good athlete. And I think he has natural defensive instincts. He shoots the ball better than I think, maybe, he was able to show this year. He’s a live body. He’s enthusiastic about playing. It seems he loves the process, is not afraid of it. He’s competitive. He’s not afraid. He’s ready to mix it up if he needs to. His length, size and athleticism, and then when you add those other things, I think the only thing that could stop him is injury.
Western Conference executive No. 1: Guys like him are only in one place for 11 to 13 years, and they’re starters. What’s the worst scenario he could be? Clint Capela? If you watched him in FIBA, offensively, it’s two completely different talents than he showed at Duke. In FIBA, he’s shooting 3s. At Duke … no. But there were a couple of times where he did do it and you’re like, ah, that’s what I saw at FIBA. He plays hard. He seems like a great kid. Rebounds. And Duke bigs — (Dereck) Lively was undervalued, and he’s turned out to be damned good. Mark Williams. The general manager who has enough (guts) to take him earlier than Tre, maybe even Edgecombe, I could see him being the under the radar (pick) that nobody’s really pinpointing to maybe screw up the (draft) order a little bit.
College assistant coach No. 1 (his team played Duke): I got up next to the kid. He’s huge. And he’s untapped. He’s got a world of potential. He goes after everything. He rebounds. And offensively, he’s untapped
Derik Queen | 6-9 big | 20 years old | Maryland
Eastern Conference executive No. 1: I’ve been telling our guys, you watch him before the games, and he (seems) lackadaisical. He doesn’t show a serious side. And that’s a turnoff to some people. I’m like, think of Naz Reid when he was at LSU. It was the same damn thing. The games never get too big for (Queen).
College assistant coach No. 2 (his team played Maryland): The skill is real. The knowledge of the game, and how to get to where he needs to go, crafty, is a real thing. He’s not jumping over a phone book. I worry about, can he guard? Who he’s going to guard is my question. I don’t worry about him at all on offense. But I don’t think he can guard fives. I don’t think he’s great in pick-and-roll defense, and I don’t think he can move well enough laterally to guard Giannis and Michael Porter Jr., these scorers. He tries on defense, I think. I just don’t think he moves well enough for it to be as good as it needs to be if he’s not going to be a guy who’s going to be super efficient on offense.
I like him a lot (though). He can pass. He’s a willing passer. He actually wants to pass. He can really see the floor. He can survey. He can get to his spot. He can make a shot off both feet. He can knock you off balance. He can get to the free-throw line. He’s a good rebounder. There’s a lot to like. The defensive part is where I have questions. Who’s he guarding? Can he guard (Mikal) Bridges? Can he guard Josh Hart? Can he guard Stew (Isaiah Stewart), the next tier of guys who aren’t the primary offensive option, but they know how to cut, how to go to the glass?
College assistant coach No. 3 (his team played Maryland): I am not a Derik Queen guy. He can’t shoot. Look at his 3-point percentage and number of attempts. I don’t know who he’s going to guard. Very skilled with the ball, because he’s got great hands. Good from 15 feet on in. Doesn’t run fast or hard. But he hardly took any 3s. And the way the NBA game is right now, what are you gonna do? But he’s a great rebounder.
Western Conference scout No. 1: Nice kid. Heavy emphasis on kid. We interviewed him, and he’s 19 going on 14. He can do one thing: he can score. But you don’t want to have to rely on a rookie scoring for you to contribute.
Joan Beringer | 6-11 big | 18 years old | Cedevita
Eastern Conference executive No. 3: Very, very new to the game. Big (kid). Light on his feet. Shot blocker. High motor. The offensive part is gonna be a wait. Right now, he’s a vertical spacer, lob catcher. Just dunks everything around the rim. He’s only been competitively playing the last five years. …It’s been good for him to leave France and get away from that sort of thing, and now he’s in Slovenia. Perfect work conditions. Lives two or three blocks from the gym. Someone might (take) him in the teens. Really, his talent level, he’s supposed to be a late 20s guy, maybe mid-20s guy, just with his inexperience. But a big body, live body. You’re going to hear from him. Offensively, he’s a ways away. But he does have decent instincts.
Eastern Conference executive No. 2: Saw him last year at the Under-18s in Finland. Still very raw. But he’s come a long way from where he was last year. If you think about Jarrett Allen in college, and just how raw he was, that’s what he reminds me of. If you’re a fan of his, that’s how you have to project him. Just started playing two or three years ago. Good pick and roll defense. There’s not a lot there (offensively). You throw it at the rim and he catches it.
Western Conference executive No. 2: Raw, young, rim protector and rebounding will keep him around. Solid motor. That kid is a dog, man. He’s a horse. He just works all the time. He’s just starting to play. Whoever gets him is going to have rim protection, rebounder. And he asks questions. Very smart kid. His hands aren’t really the greatest, but he can catch the ball in the dunker’s spot
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Thaddy wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:We have to leave this draft with our back-up 5
Khaman
Wolf
Queen
Asa
Yang
That's my order of interest in bigs.
Why not Fleming?
I'm not looking at him like a traditional rim protecting big. Maybe a 4 that you can play small ball 5 with
DreamTeam09 wrote:Pleas please please let us get Khaman / I'm almost willing to attach an unprotected 2027 pick for him / also I wouldn't mind trading down for 2 picks - 1 in the teens & 1 early 20 but Maluach is the guy we need & deserve / basketball gods gotta throw us one bone plz
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
Jim Todd Jr. wrote:Psubs wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
Been constant that we are targeting a big
What does Beringer bring that Chomche doesn't?
What does Chomche bring? He was like the 58th pick and didnt sniff the rotation and probably wont next year. His feet are too slow.
He’s more talented than (Zaccharie) Risacher. If you had those guys in a gym together, Noa’s more talented. He does things and you’re like, damn, he’s like Scottie Pippen. It’ll be a team like Washington that’s patient and can wait, but in a year or two, people are gonna be like, “He went, what? Nine? Ten?”
Thaddy wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:We have to leave this draft with our back-up 5
Khaman
Wolf
Queen
Asa
Yang
That's my order of interest in bigs.
Why not Fleming?
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Thaddy wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:We have to leave this draft with our back-up 5
Khaman
Wolf
Queen
Asa
Yang
That's my order of interest in bigs.
Why not Fleming?
I'm not looking at him like a traditional rim protecting big. Maybe a 4 that you can play small ball 5 with