2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[twix2500]

Yeah I remember Cody was clearly better coming up but Caleb easily passed him up in the NBA, I can go on the free agent tracker and find 50 guys I’d rather have for the minimum than Cody tbh. Hell, I’ll be pissed if he’s getting minutes over Pelle. Bring the real Martin twin back if we want one of them. hell, we were hesitant to trade Caleb for Dame and then lost him for nothing

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yeah I remember Cody was clearly better coming up but Caleb easily passed him up in the NBA, I can go on the free agent tracker and find 50 guys I’d rather have for the minimum than Cody tbh. Hell, I’ll be pissed if he’s getting minutes over Pelle. Bring the real Martin twin back if we want one of them. hell, we were hesitant to trade Caleb for Dame and then lost him for nothing

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

Ill pass.

[batterybro42]

It would be hilarious if the Heat got Cody Martin and he did the exact same thing his twin did here. It’s not a question of talent it was long held that Cody was the better of the two before the first Martin stint in Miami.

It’s the role, Miami has a long track record of taking guys with that size and frame and making the POA defenders, and using them to stretch defensive schemes out the length of the floor and then run on the other end.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sounds like if we want to keep Ware we need to send 2 1sts. If that’s what it takes then let’s do it. See what you can get for Terry a 1st and whatever else after.

[twix2500]

Yeah I remember Cody was clearly better coming up but Caleb easily passed him up in the NBA, I can go on the free agent tracker and find 50 guys I’d rather have for the minimum than Cody tbh. Hell, I’ll be pissed if he’s getting minutes over Pelle. Bring the real Martin twin back if we want one of them. hell, we were hesitant to trade Caleb for Dame and then lost him for nothing

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

Ill pass.

what other press wing for cheap do you want off the bench?

[batterybro42]

Sounds like if we want to keep Ware we need to send 2 1sts. If that’s what it takes then let’s do it. See what you can get for Terry a 1st and whatever else after.

I got no issues with giving up #20 plus an additional 1st if you keep Jovic and Ware but I think you turn right back around and trade Ware in a follow move with him as the main asset.

If Miami is going to go this route it’s time to go all in. Our best lineup is going to be with Bam at the 5 and KD at the 4. You can get a better piece to compliment them at the 1 or the 3 if you move Ware, and the backup big market is pretty strong you could likely get some decent options for the minimum.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Yeah I remember Cody was clearly better coming up but Caleb easily passed him up in the NBA, I can go on the free agent tracker and find 50 guys I’d rather have for the minimum than Cody tbh. Hell, I’ll be pissed if he’s getting minutes over Pelle. Bring the real Martin twin back if we want one of them. hell, we were hesitant to trade Caleb for Dame and then lost him for nothing

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

Deal works without Wiggins. With the way Gambo keeps clowning Wiggins maybe he stays and Rozier goes. JJJ, Rozier, Duncan, Keshad Johnson for Durant and Martin clears

[contract]

So from your last few posts in this thread:

1) No to Durant, DeRozan, Lopez, or Conley.

2) you can't build around Herro and Bam.


Then Miami should do what? Trade Herro and Bam for expirings and picks? And then roll out a G-League team with a starting 5 of Ware, Jovic, Jaquez, Larsson, and Dru and see if Miami can out-tank Brooklyn?

Some of y'all need to forget about the Heat and become Sioux Falls Skyforce fans.

Or we can just be rational instead. On the plus side for some fans, a Seniors League should kick off around the time Lebron finally retires.

What is "rational" about keeping (or extending) Herro/Bam if you can't build around them? You're not proposing a viable alternative or any semblance of a plan Miami should consider; you're really just saying Miami is damned if they do, damned if they don't.

No, what I'm saying is that no one on our team is worth building around ... and sure as hell not by adding a bunch of near geriatric players.

This obsession with railing against players because of their age is irrational:

Lopez / Horford
LeBron / Batum
Durant / DeRozan
Klay / J Holiday
Paul / Conley

That team cooks most teams in the league and not 1 is under 35.

I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not.

[twix2500]

Yeah I remember Cody was clearly better coming up but Caleb easily passed him up in the NBA, I can go on the free agent tracker and find 50 guys I’d rather have for the minimum than Cody tbh. Hell, I’ll be pissed if he’s getting minutes over Pelle. Bring the real Martin twin back if we want one of them. hell, we were hesitant to trade Caleb for Dame and then lost him for nothing

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

Deal works without Wiggins. With the way Gambo keeps clowning Wiggins maybe he stays and Rozier goes. JJJ, Rozier, Duncan, Keshad Johnson for Durant and Martin clears

You are giving Gambo too much authority lol

break it down what must Suns do to be able to aggregate players

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Cody Martin has played over 53 games in a season 1 time.

Bams 1st season shooting 3s taking into consideration volume AND efficiency would be Cody’s best shooting season in his career.

If you have a wing/guard that struggles to shoot they need to have a Bruce Brown type impact. Brown is actually a better shooter than Cody lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

if JJ, Wiggins and Duncan are traded Larsson would be the only swing reserve. I would assume they are hoping Cody can be a really good press defender that Burks wasn't.

Ill pass.

what other press wing for cheap do you want off the bench?

Without looking, Bruce Brown pretty easily. GTJ as well.

[contract]

Jimmy Butler is gone. This is not the 2019-2024 build anymore. Let it go. The Heat are 5 months in a rebuild around Herro and Bam.

You can't build around Herro and Bam. There's a reason why we were in search of a #1 or at least a #2 when we still had Butler. That reason is that neither Herro nor Bam fit either of those roles. You don't "build around" 3s & 4s.

Let it go.

Rather you think the Heat can or cant win a chip with Herro and Bam as your center piece, they have earned the right to be given a year to see how far they can go. The same was said about Butler and Dragic when the Heat were trying to trade for them. That turned out to be true but it was worth the watch as Butler and Dragic flourished when the team was structured to complement their talents. Herro made his 1st all-star and Bam is starting his prime years. A summer to fully focus on building around those two with an offensive scheme of players that complement their skill set may be worth the watch to see how they flourish. The tear it down and wait for a massiah to fall from heaven and choose Miami strategy is too far in-between and a death burn for viewers. I get it you want to have a massiah you believe in regardless if he is successful or not. You want someone who gives you faith. But like Butler and Dragic they didn't have your faith prior to playing for the Heat but at least they earned it when given a chance.

When did they earn this?

[twix2500]

Cody Martin has played over 53 games in a season 1 time.

Bams 1st season shooting 3s taking into consideration volume AND efficiency would be Cody’s best shooting season in his career.

If you have a wing/guard that struggles to shoot they need to have a Bruce Brown type impact. Brown is actually a better shooter than Cody lol

I've never been a Brown fan. He got way over hyped after contributing as a reserve for Nuggets. Not big on Cody neither. I am going to assume the Heat has had Cody in the gym during the offseason with his brother. Might be some comfort and a for sure addition to the team.

[twix2500]

You can't build around Herro and Bam. There's a reason why we were in search of a #1 or at least a #2 when we still had Butler. That reason is that neither Herro nor Bam fit either of those roles. You don't "build around" 3s & 4s.

Let it go.

Rather you think the Heat can or cant win a chip with Herro and Bam as your center piece, they have earned the right to be given a year to see how far they can go. The same was said about Butler and Dragic when the Heat were trying to trade for them. That turned out to be true but it was worth the watch as Butler and Dragic flourished when the team was structured to complement their talents. Herro made his 1st all-star and Bam is starting his prime years. A summer to fully focus on building around those two with an offensive scheme of players that complement their skill set may be worth the watch to see how they flourish. The tear it down and wait for a massiah to fall from heaven and choose Miami strategy is too far in-between and a death burn for viewers. I get it you want to have a massiah you believe in regardless if he is successful or not. You want someone who gives you faith. But like Butler and Dragic they didn't have your faith prior to playing for the Heat but at least they earned it when given a chance.

When did they earn this?

by improving on their games and listening to the coaching staff and making the All-Star game

[MettaWorldPanda]

Sounds like if we want to keep Ware we need to send 2 1sts. If that’s what it takes then let’s do it. See what you can get for Terry a 1st and whatever else after.

Yeah it’s clear Ware will not be in this deal. Many reports are he’s not in it and the Suns working out 3 centers recently tell me they are getting one with the 20th pick.

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“First points of the second quarter” with 1 minute left while down 30.

Kinda what I’d expect from a 37yo tbh

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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“First points of the second quarter” with 1 minute left while down 30.

Kinda what I’d expect from a 37yo tbh

You picked one play out of a 6 and a half minute video to critique

27-6-4 on 64TS%, I’ll take it tbh.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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