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Post#243 » by HMFFL » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:54 pm

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D21 wrote:Please, can we stop with this Claxton trade... we need a C who can spread the floor a bit, shooting 3s if possible, but we certainly don't need a C that can't shoot 3s and is .500 at FT
Among the guys in the rotation, he also has the last Net rating difference of his team these last two years... enough to not try anything with him


In a roster you need different types of players.
OO can spread the floor. Claxton can block shots and defend any position, although he is a little light for being a centre. I cannot think of any other available C who could come here at an available price.
If we do renew LeVert and trade for Cam, getting Claxton would be like topping the cake. I doubt we can get such a good player to round up the roster and probably the options in that scenerio would be signing Nance or keeping Gueye.
It's difficult for me to like a player that shoots 50% from the line and is not a 3-point shooter. The exception is Shaq.

I will take a center that can defend and has range on offense. One that will add pressure on Onyeka Okongwu.

As a UGA fan, I don't see much value in Claxton.
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Re: Hawks 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#244 » by Rebound Mound » Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:00 am

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D21 wrote:Please, can we stop with this Claxton trade... we need a C who can spread the floor a bit, shooting 3s if possible, but we certainly don't need a C that can't shoot 3s and is .500 at FT
Among the guys in the rotation, he also has the last Net rating difference of his team these last two years... enough to not try anything with him


In a roster you need different types of players.
OO can spread the floor. Claxton can block shots and defend any position, although he is a little light for being a centre. I cannot think of any other available C who could come here at an available price.
If we do renew LeVert and trade for Cam, getting Claxton would be like topping the cake. I doubt we can get such a good player to round up the roster and probably the options in that scenerio would be signing Nance or keeping Gueye.
It's difficult for me to like a player that shoots 50% from the line and is not a 3-point shooter. The exception is Shaq.

I will take a center that can defend and has range on offense. One that will add pressure on Onyeka Okongwu.

As a UGA fan, I don't see much value in Claxton.


I understand Claxton is not the perfect centre, by no means. He is just 6-11, skinny, has no range, shoots 50% from the FT line and is not known for his passing ability. But I cannot see another centre in the league who could offer all of some of those carachteristics and, ideally, play alongside OO some minutes.
Maybe Porzingis would be avalilable, but too much money if we want to get someone like Cam Johnson and retain Levert. Vucevic can be obtainable too. but he is kind of soft, just 6-10 and not a rim protector.
I cannot think of anybody we could get who is not at a dangerous age (López), too limited (Poetl, Gobert), with a tendency to injuries...
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Post#245 » by jayu70 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:11 pm

Rebound Mound wrote:
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In a roster you need different types of players.
OO can spread the floor. Claxton can block shots and defend any position, although he is a little light for being a centre. I cannot think of any other available C who could come here at an available price.
If we do renew LeVert and trade for Cam, getting Claxton would be like topping the cake. I doubt we can get such a good player to round up the roster and probably the options in that scenerio would be signing Nance or keeping Gueye.
It's difficult for me to like a player that shoots 50% from the line and is not a 3-point shooter. The exception is Shaq.

I will take a center that can defend and has range on offense. One that will add pressure on Onyeka Okongwu.

As a UGA fan, I don't see much value in Claxton.


I understand Claxton is not the perfect centre, by no means. He is just 6-11, skinny, has no range, shoots 50% from the FT line and is not known for his passing ability. But I cannot see another centre in the league who could offer all of some of those carachteristics and, ideally, play alongside OO some minutes.
Maybe Porzingis would be avalilable, but too much money if we want to get someone like Cam Johnson and retain Levert. Vucevic can be obtainable too. but he is kind of soft, just 6-10 and not a rim protector.
I cannot think of anybody we could get who is not at a dangerous age (López), too limited (Poetl, Gobert), with a tendency to injuries...

As tbhawks mentioned, Luke Kornett is a FA that we can pursue for less.
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Post#246 » by Rebound Mound » Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:58 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Rebound Mound wrote:
HMFFL wrote:It's difficult for me to like a player that shoots 50% from the line and is not a 3-point shooter. The exception is Shaq.

I will take a center that can defend and has range on offense. One that will add pressure on Onyeka Okongwu.

As a UGA fan, I don't see much value in Claxton.


I understand Claxton is not the perfect centre, by no means. He is just 6-11, skinny, has no range, shoots 50% from the FT line and is not known for his passing ability. But I cannot see another centre in the league who could offer all of some of those carachteristics and, ideally, play alongside OO some minutes.
Maybe Porzingis would be avalilable, but too much money if we want to get someone like Cam Johnson and retain Levert. Vucevic can be obtainable too. but he is kind of soft, just 6-10 and not a rim protector.
I cannot think of anybody we could get who is not at a dangerous age (López), too limited (Poetl, Gobert), with a tendency to injuries...

As tbhawks mentioned, Luke Kornett is a FA that we can pursue for less.


Indeed. I completely forgot about him. I believe the Celtics will resign him as Porzingis is tradeable and Horford could retire. OO should patern his game after Horford. I would sign with blood right now that we get Kornet and Cam. And we keep LeVert, Krejci and Nance.

Trae
Daniels
Risacher
Johnson
Okongwu
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LeVert
Krejci
Mann
Johnson
Kornet
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Matthews
Nance
Wallace/Bufkin

Clearly this team will expect an improvement if it comes from the development of the young players (Risacher, Daniels, JJ, OO) and the time playing together.
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Post#247 » by jayu70 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:06 pm

Rebound Mound wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
Rebound Mound wrote:
I understand Claxton is not the perfect centre, by no means. He is just 6-11, skinny, has no range, shoots 50% from the FT line and is not known for his passing ability. But I cannot see another centre in the league who could offer all of some of those carachteristics and, ideally, play alongside OO some minutes.
Maybe Porzingis would be avalilable, but too much money if we want to get someone like Cam Johnson and retain Levert. Vucevic can be obtainable too. but he is kind of soft, just 6-10 and not a rim protector.
I cannot think of anybody we could get who is not at a dangerous age (López), too limited (Poetl, Gobert), with a tendency to injuries...

As tbhawks mentioned, Luke Kornett is a FA that we can pursue for less.


Indeed. I completely forgot about him. I believe the Celtics will resign him as Porzingis is tradeable and Horford could retire. OO should patern his game after Horford. I would sign with blood right now that we get Kornet and Cam. And we keep LeVert, Krejci and Nance.

Trae
Daniels
Risacher
Johnson
Okongwu
--------------
LeVert
Krejci
Mann
Johnson
Kornet
-----------
Matthews
Nance
Wallace/Bufkin

Clearly this team will expect an improvement if it comes from the development of the young players (Risacher, Daniels, JJ, OO) and the time playing together.

Where are the rookies. Hawks aren't trading their 2 picks in this draft.
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Post#248 » by Rebound Mound » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:38 am

jayu70 wrote:
Rebound Mound wrote:
jayu70 wrote:As tbhawks mentioned, Luke Kornett is a FA that we can pursue for less.


Indeed. I completely forgot about him. I believe the Celtics will resign him as Porzingis is tradeable and Horford could retire. OO should patern his game after Horford. I would sign with blood right now that we get Kornet and Cam. And we keep LeVert, Krejci and Nance.

Trae
Daniels
Risacher
Johnson
Okongwu
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LeVert
Krejci
Mann
Johnson
Kornet
-----------
Matthews
Nance
Wallace/Bufkin

Clearly this team will expect an improvement if it comes from the development of the young players (Risacher, Daniels, JJ, OO) and the time playing together.

Where are the rookies. Hawks aren't trading their 2 picks in this draft.


I assume there will be any. Our intention should be to use one of the picks to get Cam Johnson, then may be transform the other 1st round pick in two second rounders as we do need to add youth to this roster, which already has plenty of. I would select the Chinese guy, especially if he could spent another year in the Chinese league.
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Post#249 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:23 am

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Post#252 » by Rebound Mound » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:28 pm

I was pretty sure Gafford was going to continue playing for the Mavs. That makes sense for both parts: the Mavs are going to be a very big, solid, slow and defensive team which is going to play with either AD or Flagg or Washington or Powell at the PF position, then playing Gafford or Lively (sometimes AD) at the 5, so they are going to be really huge. The SF spot is well covered by Marshall and Washington and Flagg.
Then they have Dinwiddie, Thomson, Kyrie when he is back, possibly Paul... I beliebe they should find someone to play PG or SG with more creativity or quickness than the guys they have now and Powell, Washington, Marshall or even Thomson could be candidates to trade.
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Post#253 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:56 pm

Cam Johnson’s experience as a sixth man could do wonders for the Hawks

In his third year with Phoenix, Johnson finished third place in Sixth Man of the Year voting as the Suns won 64 games before a second-round exit to Dallas. Given Johnson’s experience as an effective sixth man, the 3-and-D wing could seriously elevate the Hawks.

Atlanta’s bench had a bottom-half offensive rating among the league’s second units, but the Hawks reserves also ranked second in made 3-pointers and sixth in 3-point percentage. While Atlanta’s starters struggled to shoot the deep ball, the bench excelled from beyond the arc. For this reason, Johnson would fit perfectly in the Hawks’ bench lineups. He could also give Atlanta’s starting five (or closing five) a much-needed shooting boost when necessary.

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Post#254 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:27 pm

HMFFL wrote:Cam Johnson’s experience as a sixth man could do wonders for the Hawks

In his third year with Phoenix, Johnson finished third place in Sixth Man of the Year voting as the Suns won 64 games before a second-round exit to Dallas. Given Johnson’s experience as an effective sixth man, the 3-and-D wing could seriously elevate the Hawks.

Atlanta’s bench had a bottom-half offensive rating among the league’s second units, but the Hawks reserves also ranked second in made 3-pointers and sixth in 3-point percentage. While Atlanta’s starters struggled to shoot the deep ball, the bench excelled from beyond the arc. For this reason, Johnson would fit perfectly in the Hawks’ bench lineups. He could also give Atlanta’s starting five (or closing five) a much-needed shooting boost when necessary.

https://soaringdownsouth.com/cam-johnson-ideal-trade-candidate-solve-hawks-major-issues


Love to have him, but what would Hawks have to send to get him?
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Post#257 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:07 am

So after the trade and now with only the 13th pick. The Hawks likely go forward to fill the spots left by Mann and Niang. CMB and Noa are clearly my top guys.
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Post#258 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:17 am

CP War Hawks wrote:So after the trade and now with only the 13th pick. The Hawks likely go forward to fill the spots left by Mann and Niang. CMB and Noa are clearly my top guys.


Center: Okongwu -- Porzingis -- Nance, Jr.
Power Forward: Jalen -- Murray-Boyles -- Mo Gueye


^Solid front court rotation right there...
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Post#259 » by jayu70 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:29 am

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CP War Hawks wrote:So after the trade and now with only the 13th pick. The Hawks likely go forward to fill the spots left by Mann and Niang. CMB and Noa are clearly my top guys.


Center: Okongwu -- Porzingis -- Nance, Jr.
Power Forward: Jalen -- Murray-Boyles -- Mo Gueye


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Post#260 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:44 am

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:So after the trade and now with only the 13th pick. The Hawks likely go forward to fill the spots left by Mann and Niang. CMB and Noa are clearly my top guys.


Center: Okongwu -- Porzingis -- Nance, Jr.
Power Forward: Jalen -- Murray-Boyles -- Mo Gueye


^Solid front court rotation right there...

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Not everyone is meant to shoot 3s, he's a Draymond like player so you take all those good qualities and mitigate shooting like GSW does with Green.

I'd like to add Thiero is a very intriguing trade down option. Comps to a bigger albeit less athletic Thompson twin.

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