2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1361 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:31 pm

Working on that 3 ball and dribble pull up, he knows his role next year next to KD and Edrice.

Joey Bada · Post #1362 » by **Joey Bada** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:32 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Joey Bada wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

“First points of the second quarter” with 1 minute left while down 30.

Kinda what I’d expect from a 37yo tbh

You picked one play out of a 6 and a half minute video to critique

27-6-4 on 64TS%, I’ll take it tbh.

Well, I mean, they did lead with it.

No one is saying he’s not good, but I wouldn’t expect the scoring droughts to magically disappear

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1363 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:35 pm

Joey Bada wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Joey Bada wrote:

“First points of the second quarter” with 1 minute left while down 30.

Kinda what I’d expect from a 37yo tbh

You picked one play out of a 6 and a half minute video to critique

27-6-4 on 64TS%, I’ll take it tbh.

Well, I mean, they did lead with it.

No one is saying he’s not good, but I wouldn’t expect the scoring droughts to magically disappear

Probably not completely, every team has them but he can help cut quite a few of them out. Next step is getting a playmaker after to further help minimize them.

carnageta · Post #1364 » by **carnageta** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:36 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Working on that 3 ball and dribble pull up, he knows his role next year next to KD and Edrice.

Herro going to get him tons of open looks too

inhabitMiami · Post #1365 » by **inhabitMiami** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:37 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Working on that 3 ball and dribble pull up, he knows his role next year next to KD and Edrice.

Never felt more vindicated about a roleplayer than this guy. Was so obvious he would thrive here.

eddieheatfan · Post #1366 » by **eddieheatfan** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:25 pm

inhabitMiami wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Working on that 3 ball and dribble pull up, he knows his role next year next to KD and Edrice.

Never felt more vindicated about a roleplayer than this guy. Was so obvious he would thrive here.

he's going to take us to into playin heaven. he is just a much better version than gabe vicent to me but dont mind me lets run it back baby

HeatFanLifer · Post #1367 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:26 pm

I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Post #1368 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:33 pm

Read on Twitter

twix2500 · Post #1369 » by **twix2500** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:48 pm

Read on Twitter

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inhabitMiami · Post #1370 » by **inhabitMiami** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:54 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Suns were 3-17 in games KD didn't play last year.

Their team construction is also horrid.

MiamiLoyal926 · Post #1371 » by **MiamiLoyal926** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:02 pm

This is gonna be Wiggins, Duncan, Highsmith and 20th pick isn’t it!? I bet you that is Pat’s offer!

Saves the Suns 1 million out the gate ($53.7 going their way and $54.7 coming out way), plus whatever savings they get from waving Duncan. It’s also very similar to the Butler package.

Post #1372 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:08 pm

MiamiLoyal926 wrote:This is gonna be Wiggins, Duncan, Highsmith and 20th pick isn’t it!? I bet you that is Pat’s offer!

Saves the Suns 1 million out the gate ($53.7 going their way and $54.7 coming out way), plus whatever savings they get from waving Duncan. It’s also very similar to the Butler package.

Would not shock me one bit. Wiggins, Schroeder, Kyle Anderson 20th pick lol. Maybe just maybe another 1st

Vertical Limit · Post #1373 » by **Vertical Limit** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:16 pm

I get the feeling next saturday durant will still be in phoenix. I know fans are trying to get answers now but phoenix is going to hold onto the draft and if they still dont think theyre getting enough then they have the trade deadline to do something

Kobewade11 · Post #1374 » by **Kobewade11** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:22 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:I get the feeling next saturday durant will still be in phoenix. I know fans are trying to get answers now but phoenix is going to hold onto the draft and if they still dont think theyre getting enough then they have the trade deadline to do something

Phoenix is not operating as a second apron team next season lol, their owner is broke

Rapaz · Post #1375 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:36 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:I get the feeling next saturday durant will still be in phoenix. I know fans are trying to get answers now but phoenix is going to hold onto the draft and if they still dont think theyre getting enough then they have the trade deadline to do something

Phoenix is not operating as a second apron team next season lol, their owner is broke

Daffy · Post #1376 » by **Daffy** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:36 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Do yall ever take time to look at the teams around certain players? If the role players are ideal fits. Coaching. Defensive scheme. Offensive scheme. Etc? Was Butler impressive in the win column befire going to the finals with the Heat?

Lennyzinho · Post #1377 » by **Lennyzinho** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:00 pm

Daffy wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Do yall ever take time to look at the teams around certain players? If the role players are ideal fits. Coaching. Defensive scheme. Offensive scheme. Etc? Was Butler impressive in the win column befire going to the finals with the Heat?

Warriors replaced Wiggins with Jimmy and they went 17-3 in the regular season or something ridiculous like that when they were a sub .500 team beforehand. Jimmy is a G. We all saw it first hand. He just didnt have enough around him. Lowry and duncan will forever be the reason our Jimmy window was ruined. 48M every year locked up in two JAGs (couldve gotten more out of burks and tyus on minimums) when it could've been a legit player to get us over the hump.

Fit and scheme are ofc important. Its why davion was so good for us. Also why wiggins seemed unhappy. He was also hurt (when isnt he), and saw Jimmy winning nonstop in GSW and now he was in miami and we went on a massive losing streak. Can only imagine how that messed him up mentally. He was clearly part of the problem

Jimmy and Durant are clear winners. Sure Durant only has one ring and Jimmy has none but its a team sport. You can be a great player and not win. Ask McDavid and Marino.

HeatFanLifer · Post #1378 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:04 pm

inhabitMiami wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Suns were 3-17 in games KD didn't play last year.

Their team construction is also horrid.

That’s the other issue, how many 70+ game seasons has Durant had the last 10 years? 3?

Bhut Jolokia · Post #1379 » by **Bhut Jolokia** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:05 pm

The Heat are not trading Ware to the Suns. If the Suns don’t trade Durant now then he will just sign with the Heat when he is a free agent after a year.

Daffy · Post #1380 » by **Daffy** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:07 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
Daffy wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:I look at the wins a player provides. KD may put up stats, but how many wins did his team get last season? 36. The year before that 49 as a sixth seed then first round sweep out of playoffs. If he was an up and coming player, one could argue it’s part of the process of growing with the team. But KD is supposed to be a win now player. The last two seasons in the win column are not impressive.

Do yall ever take time to look at the teams around certain players? If the role players are ideal fits. Coaching. Defensive scheme. Offensive scheme. Etc? Was Butler impressive in the win column befire going to the finals with the Heat?

Warriors replaced Wiggins with Jimmy and they went 17-3 in the regular season or something ridiculous like that when they were a sub .500 team beforehand. Jimmy is a G. We all saw it first hand. He just didnt have enough around him. Lowry and duncan will forever be the reason our Jimmy window was ruined. 48M every year locked up in two JAGs (couldve gotten more out of burks and tyus on minimums) when it could've been a legit player to get us over the hump.

Fit and scheme are ofc important. Its why davion was so good for us. Also why wiggins seemed unhappy. He was also hurt (when isnt he), and saw Jimmy winning nonstop in GSW and now he was in miami and we went on a massive losing streak. Can only imagine how that messed him up mentally. He was clearly part of the problem

Jimmy and Durant are clear winners. Sure Durant only has one ring and Jimmy has none but its a team sport. You can be a great player and not win. Ask McDavid and Marino.

You're basically agreeing with what I'm saying lol. Read over my post and the comment I quoted to reply to.