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2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#921 » by tontoz » Yesterday 12:43 am

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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Egor Demin worked out for The Wizards...


If he’s there at #18, they are absolutely taking that swing. Best passer in the class with an 8’10 standing reach. The upside is undeniable.


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He doesn't have the handles or quickness to create advantages like a true playmaker.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#922 » by nate33 » Yesterday 12:59 am

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:o Losing the baby fat and turning it into muscle in the future, ahh shyyyt, I wonder how he moves now? Damn, just when I thought I had settled into who I like at 6, what a dilemma (for me, not the FO) :lol:


We still have to ask ourselves, why didn't he lose the weight BEFORE the combine and make a better impression?


It's not clear when he lost it but I assumed he meant before. I doubt he lost 23 pounds in the last few weeks.

I know he dropped a bunch of weight just prior to the combine. I don’t remember how much, but it was at least 15. And yet, he still tested terribly on vertical leap and lane agility.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#923 » by nate33 » Yesterday 1:01 am

tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Egor Demin worked out for The Wizards...


If he’s there at #18, they are absolutely taking that swing. Best passer in the class with an 8’10 standing reach. The upside is undeniable.


FYP

He doesn't have the handles or quickness to create advantages like a true playmaker.

Agreed. You need to have the shooting or penetration ability to draw defensive attention in order to utilize the passing ability. I just don’t see Demin reaching that level. He is more Luke Walton than Deni Avdija.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#924 » by dckingsfan » Yesterday 1:08 am

gambitx777 wrote:I hate fears

Tell us how you really feel... :wink:
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#925 » by NatP4 » Yesterday 1:11 am

tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Egor Demin worked out for The Wizards...


If he’s there at #18, they are absolutely taking that swing. Best passer in the class with an 8’10 standing reach. The upside is undeniable.


FYP

He doesn't have the handles or quickness to create advantages like a true playmaker.


Agreed, good fix. I think he might be worth a lottery ticket if the 3pt shooting comes around. He takes enough 3s and has some off the dribble skill.

Rather trade up from 18 into the CMB/Essengue range though.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#926 » by AFM » Yesterday 1:21 am

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AFM wrote:
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We still have to ask ourselves, why didn't he lose the weight BEFORE the combine and make a better impression?


It's not clear when he lost it but I assumed he meant before. I doubt he lost 23 pounds in the last few weeks.

I know he dropped a bunch of weight just prior to the combine. I don’t remember how much, but it was at least 15. And yet, he still tested terribly on vertical leap and lane agility.

I know. It's too bad the combine doesn't test feetwork or hands. Pretty sure he would come in first for both.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#927 » by closg00 » Yesterday 1:23 am

tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Egor Demin worked out for The Wizards...


If he’s there at #18, they are absolutely taking that swing. Best passer in the class with an 8’10 standing reach. The upside is undeniable.


FYP

He doesn't have the handles or quickness to create advantages like a true playmaker.

+1 He's in for a rude awakening at the lockdown NBA level, perhaps he can become a Josh Giddy.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#928 » by 9 and 20 » Yesterday 1:31 am

I'm fairly confident that Bailey will drop to 5 now. Probably a competition now with Brooklyn to trade up with Utah. Not sure I want to win that competition, tbh.
Can't say I do. Who else gonna shoot?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#929 » by dobrojim » Yesterday 1:53 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Assuming Eddecomb is gone at 6, I’d be happy with Malauch, Fears or Bailey. Watch, we’ll end up with Tre.

I can squint and see some Mutumbo in Malauch and some Dame in Fears.


I mentioned the Dikembe comp maybe a month ago.
Except Mutombo wasn't a 3 pt shooter. Maybe Maluach
isn't either. Or maybe he is.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#930 » by AFM » Yesterday 2:11 am

Saying you squint and see Mutumbo when you look at Malauch is too funny. Me too man. I can squint and see Wally Szczerbiak in Knueppel as well
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#931 » by tontoz » Yesterday 2:35 am

dobrojim wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Assuming Eddecomb is gone at 6, I’d be happy with Malauch, Fears or Bailey. Watch, we’ll end up with Tre.

I can squint and see some Mutumbo in Malauch and some Dame in Fears.


I mentioned the Dikembe comp maybe a month ago.
Except Mutombo wasn't a 3 pt shooter. Maybe Maluach
isn't either. Or maybe he is.



As a freshman Deke averaged 8 blocks per 40, 3 times as many as Maluach.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#932 » by Dat2U » Yesterday 2:59 am

NatP4 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
If he’s there at #18, they are absolutely taking that swing. Best passer in the class with an 8’10 standing reach. The upside is undeniable.


FYP

He doesn't have the handles or quickness to create advantages like a true playmaker.


Agreed, good fix. I think he might be worth a lottery ticket if the 3pt shooting comes around. He takes enough 3s and has some off the dribble skill.

Rather trade up from 18 into the CMB/Essengue range though.


Egor Demin is probably my least favorite prospect in 1st round. Liam McNeeley is a close 2nd.

He's simply not a PG. The handle is very basic. Good for a 6-9 guy but not acceptable or creative enough for a guard. He has no real shot creation ability except for a stepback 3 that looks like its never going in. Shot is ugly and release is slow. He has no shot versatility. He needs a pick or screen to do anything on ball. He doesn't have a position to defend.

You can try developing him as a Joe Ingles type but it would require alot of strength & shooting development to get his game up to par.

I look at a guy like Danny Wolf who's physically a C and looks like he clearly has a higher skill level than Demin and can do alot of the guard aspects better than Egor can.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#933 » by Dat2U » Yesterday 3:07 am

AFM wrote:Saying you squint and see Mutumbo when you look at Malauch is too funny. Me too man. I can squint and see Wally Szczerbiak in Knueppel as well


I remember Mutombo being all arms & elbows lol. His timing was absolutely elite. His instincts and activity, at least defensively, seemed better and his movements much more purposeful. Maluach actually strikes me a smoother athlete but the instincts simply are not there. Khaman's blocks are impressive but they often seem to be in part to him being a step late in rotating over but the fluidity and length still allows him to re-direct the shot.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#934 » by dobrojim » Yesterday 3:22 am

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Could not get this to post correctly

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#935 » by dobrojim » Yesterday 3:24 am

tontoz wrote:
dobrojim wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Assuming Eddecomb is gone at 6, I’d be happy with Malauch, Fears or Bailey. Watch, we’ll end up with Tre.

I can squint and see some Mutumbo in Malauch and some Dame in Fears.


I mentioned the Dikembe comp maybe a month ago.
Except Mutombo wasn't a 3 pt shooter. Maybe Maluach
isn't either. Or maybe he is.



As a freshman Deke averaged 8 blocks per 40, 3 times as many as Maluach.


That obviously such a huge difference I would want
to dig deeper. I know Maluach played under 20 mpg
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#936 » by dobrojim » Yesterday 3:26 am

A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#937 » by gambitx777 » Yesterday 4:24 am

dckingsfan wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I hate fears

Tell us how you really feel... :wink:
Id be torn on drafting him at 18. If at 18 fears slips and we are sitting there I would rather reach and draft yang .

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#938 » by AFM » Yesterday 4:50 am




Reports that they're trying to trade up from 18 and Rockets are interested in Kispert. Then this guy has us taking Queen at 10. I swear I am just too influential.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#939 » by FarBeyondDriven » Yesterday 6:35 am

AFM wrote:
tontoz wrote:I am not so sure it is "stupid" to deliberately tank your draft stock to get to a more advantageous destination. Maybe unethical.

Reed Sheppard went to a good team then had a hard time getting on the court.


Slipping from 3rd to 6th costs him $13 million over his first contract alone. Sure he may have a long career and that may end up as pocket change, but for a guy who has some executives saying "he could be out of league in 5 years", doesn't seem too smart of an idea.


I wonder if there is a trade already worked out with the Sixers taking Ace #3 and either the Wizards, Pelicans or Nets taking who the Sixers want at their pick. The only question is which team of those four has both the best offer AND best chance of having the player the Sixers covet still on the board. Similar pre-draft trade was worked out between the Hawks and Mavs when they swapped Trae and Luka. Wizards have Bilal and other young players/picks to offer, Pelicans just added a 2nd first rounder and rumors are they might include Herb Jones, the Nets have Cam Johnson on an attractive contract and 5 of the first 36 picks plus future picks.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#940 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Yesterday 8:22 am

dobrojim wrote:[youtube]https://youtu.be/dHb88bvcxUo
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