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2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#941 » by chrisab123 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:00 am

Shak_Celts wrote: okay, back on topic friends! I know it’s been a bit boring, but stick to Celtics talk! Thank you.


I apologize for engaging.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#942 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:00 am

chrisab123 wrote:Well one you’re a **** idiot.

Two I’m not the one calling everyone who disagrees with me a troll to hide my own trolling bull. You do realize you’re describing yourself by saying what a troll is. Right?


You keep saying I’m describing myself, but that doesn’t hold up.

I’ve explained my position, responded directly, and stayed in the conversation, that’s the opposite of trolling by any fair definition. You, on the other hand, skipped the argument and jumped straight to name-calling.

If you’ve got something real to say, say it. Otherwise, you’re just proving my point.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#943 » by chrisab123 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:01 am

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chrisab123 wrote:[Well one you’re a **** idiot.

Two I’m not the one calling everyone who disagrees with me a troll to hide my own trolling bull. You do realize you’re describing yourself by saying what a troll is. Right?


You keep saying I’m describing myself, but that doesn’t hold up.

I’ve explained my position, responded directly, and stayed in the conversation, that’s the opposite of trolling by any fair definition. You, on the other hand, skipped the argument and jumped straight to name-calling.

If you’ve got something real to say, say it. Otherwise, you’re just proving my point.


Dude you’ve sat here and called two established posters trolls and moving the goal posts on your own arguments. Anytime someone counters your trash opinions they’re labeled as “low IQ trolls”. Look in the mirror. You were the one who started this nonsense by calling people “Low IQ” so stop deflecting and playing victim.

That will be the last I’ll say about this out of respect for the board. Go somewhere else if you’re going to keep doing your thing.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#944 » by Jellybeans » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:56 am

LOL went from dumb trades one after another to fighting page after page about some history stuff :lol:
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Post#945 » by cl2117 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:28 am

Looking at the Durant to Miami rumored package it seems like a good opportunity to get off Jrue's money if Brad is ready to pull the trigger. Send him to PHX who can say they get Wiggins/Jrue++ for Durant while we take back minimal salary and possibly syphon off a draft asset.

PHX: Wiggins, Jrue, Jovic, MIA unprotected future first, #28

MIA: Durant, Ighodaro, Cody Martin

BOS: Duncan Robinson, #20

Miami get Durant and Phoenix somewhat salvage the situation by landing a pair of running mates for Booker/Beal in Wiggins/Holiday. They also net some draft assets and a decent rookie scale guy.

Duncan Robinson's contract is guaranteed for just under $10m, so C's can cut him and save about $22m right off the bat. Alternatively could try to flip him to a third team to absorb him and get the full $32m off the books. It'd get you below both aprons and within $7.5m of getting below the tax. I'd try to make taking TIllman compulsory as well just to get off that dead money.

ATL has that big TPE they want to use. We could trade Robinson into that and create a TPE of our own. I'm afraid to ask what the going rate might be for that though. Brooklyn would make the most sense because we could trade into their cap space, they cut Robinson and then they could re-sell that $10m of saved money to another team looking to dump money. So we may only need to pay them to eat $10m but they are also the only game in town for that option so may try to charge a premium regardless.

It's not an exciting option because it comes down to a salary dump (and I don't even know if we could get the #20/#28 swap) but it would get us 80% of the way towards solving our cap issues and create a big TPE int he process. We'd be close enough to ducking the tax that we wouldn't even need to make any other moves right away and could play things out into the season before making any other drastic changes. If we got to move up in the draft at the same time that feels like a win.
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Post#946 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:40 am

fallguy wrote:Some brilliant back and forth tonight. This is the kind of offseason conflict I love to see around here.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya that someone called SparringPartner is itching for a fight :lol:
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Post#947 » by phincsfan » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:17 pm

The intrapersonal communications are hysterical but at the same time sad to see.

I've thrown out rebuild, blow it up and keep it status quo scenarios and mostly got crickets.

I've thrown out my own crazy trades but purposely threw out trades that I saw from sports outlets and mostly got crickets.

Now I see a poster who pops up and causes a stir and a few pages begin because of that.

In the Miami Dolphin's forum in the old PSD site they caught a guy who LITERALLY talked to himself using multiple accounts across game threads, trade threads and draft threads. They dedicated an entire thread showing all his accounts, his multiple facebook accounts that he also used to talk to himself about sports. Facebook and a game day thread is apparently where he got caught. Before the site shut down that thread had over 40 pages.

If it happened there, I'm convinced it's going on here.

I feel for whoever does this and this just shows that people need real friends with heartbeats. Unless those chat bots talk to you than maybe that's ok. :D

The And 1 points are the give away. I see the same posters get multiple And 1's and others like myself get 1 maybe 2. So what I did last year was simply copy a post that got a bunch of And 1's and re-posted it. I didn't quote it, I just copied it and acted like it was my post. My inspector gadget plan got me ZERO And 1's. I figured "maybe it's just me". So then, I made another account :wink: , copied that same post and re-posted it. No And 1's again. How can that be? Are people making posts and then using their other accounts to give themselves a pat on the back and an And 1? :lol: :lol:

I also noticed that the people who post during games and the people who post in these trade and draft threads are always different. Maybe it's a time frame thing, but there are names in the trade and draft threads that I never see in game day threads. Maybe another coincidence. Who knows. To each his (or her) own.

It was Mr. Purple in the Kitchen with the And 1 :lol: :lol:
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Post#948 » by celtxman » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:00 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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It’s not everything
You have JT, PP, Horford, Luke, Baylor, Walsh

Luke is probably gone, Big Al probably retired, Walsh sucks completely and is probably not going to be on the team and Baylor is raw. That’s garbage


Walsh is terrible. I disagree on Baylor though. He seems promising.

I believe Scheierman will take over the Hauser role and Hauser will be elsewhere
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Post#949 » by celtxman » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:03 pm

Jellybeans wrote:LOL went from dumb trades one after another to fighting page after page about some history stuff :lol:

Not only dumb trades, but trades that could never happen because of the CBA.
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Post#950 » by celtxman » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:13 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:We won a championship 12 months ago, reset everything :roll:


It’s not everything
You have JT, PP, Horford, Luke, Baylor, Walsh

Luke is probably gone, Big Al probably retired, Walsh sucks completely and is probably not going to be on the team and Baylor is raw. That’s garbage

And yet we have people that just want Porzingis gone even with no return. Maybe Mazzulla will play at center with Queta for our new double big lineup.
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Post#951 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:33 pm

phincsfan wrote:The And 1 points are the give away. I see the same posters get multiple And 1's and others like myself get 1 maybe 2. So what I did last year was simply copy a post that got a bunch of And 1's and re-posted it. I didn't quote it, I just copied it and acted like it was my post. My inspector gadget plan got me ZERO And 1's. I figured "maybe it's just me". So then, I made another account :wink: , copied that same post and re-posted it. No And 1's again. How can that be? Are people making posts and then using their other accounts to give themselves a pat on the back and an And 1? :lol: :lol:


I think you just admitted you are the Dolphins multi account person, right? You are now on this forum creating multiple accounts.
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Post#952 » by gammajamma » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:43 pm

Holiday trade idea based on mavs interest

I know the mavs are interested in holiday and nets have four firsts this year (so unlikely to use all) maybe something like

Celtics send jrue holiday #32
Celtics receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, hardy #19 (from nets via Milwaukee)

Nets send # 19
Nets receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, 2029 pick swap with Houston (via mavs)

Mavs send Gafford, Washington, hardy, 2029 swap
Mavs receive holiday #32

Not sure the value for other teams
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Post#953 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:05 pm

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Post#954 » by phincsfan » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:08 pm

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phincsfan wrote:The And 1 points are the give away. I see the same posters get multiple And 1's and others like myself get 1 maybe 2. So what I did last year was simply copy a post that got a bunch of And 1's and re-posted it. I didn't quote it, I just copied it and acted like it was my post. My inspector gadget plan got me ZERO And 1's. I figured "maybe it's just me". So then, I made another account :wink: , copied that same post and re-posted it. No And 1's again. How can that be? Are people making posts and then using their other accounts to give themselves a pat on the back and an And 1? :lol: :lol:


I think you just admitted you are the Dolphins multi account person, right? You are now on this forum creating multiple accounts.


I just checked out your most And 1 history. 18? 18? 17? :lol: :lol:

But, the other posters who posted right after you got zero or 1 And 1? :lol: :lol: You're either the smartest guy in the room or the only guy in the room.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#955 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:08 pm

gammajamma wrote:Holiday trade idea based on mavs interest

I know the mavs are interested in holiday and nets have four firsts this year (so unlikely to use all) maybe something like

Celtics send jrue holiday #32
Celtics receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, hardy #19 (from nets via Milwaukee)

Nets send # 19
Nets receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, 2029 pick swap with Houston (via mavs)

Mavs send Gafford, Washington, hardy, 2029 swap
Mavs receive holiday #32

Not sure the value for other teams


I read the Mavs might want to move on Gafford, but would they get rid of both bigs? Washington can play with Lively and AD. I’d be surprised if they moved PJ.
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Post#956 » by Boss66 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:09 pm

fallguy wrote:Some brilliant back and forth tonight. This is the kind of offseason conflict I love to see around here.

I saw there were 4 or 5 new pages to read and thought some good rumors - instead it was this trash back and forth. Very disappointing
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Post#957 » by gammajamma » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:11 pm

SparringPartner wrote:
gammajamma wrote:Holiday trade idea based on mavs interest

I know the mavs are interested in holiday and nets have four firsts this year (so unlikely to use all) maybe something like

Celtics send jrue holiday #32
Celtics receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, hardy #19 (from nets via Milwaukee)

Nets send # 19
Nets receive 1 of Washington/ Gafford, 2029 pick swap with Houston (via mavs)

Mavs send Gafford, Washington, hardy, 2029 swap
Mavs receive holiday #32

Not sure the value for other teams


I read the Mavs might want to move on Gafford, but would they get rid of both bigs? Washington can play with Lively and AD. I’d be surprised if they moved PJ.



For jrue they’d have to plus they have Flagg coming in. At full strength they’d

Kyrie/jrue/flagg/AD/Lively and Klay off the bench

Have jrue at 1 while Kyrie recovers
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Post#958 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:13 pm

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I’d be surprised if PHX got anything of real value. What a dumpster fire. Beal is a franchise killer imo
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Post#959 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:17 pm

gammajamma wrote:For jrue they’d have to plus they have Flagg coming in. At full strength they’d

Kyrie/jrue/flagg/AD/Lively and Klay off the bench

Have jrue at 1 while Kyrie recovers


Of course, I forgot about Flagg :o

PJ or Gafford & #19. That’s ideal
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Post#960 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:19 pm

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I’d be surprised if PHX got anything of real value. What a dumpster fire. Beal is a franchise killer imo

Durant is a franchise killer unless he plays with a generational talent like Stephen Curry. His last two stops he had Irving/Harden and Booker/Beal both situations were bust and last year didn't even make the playoffs. No thanks to Durant, whatever team he goes to will fail. Hope it's Miami.

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