24-25 Trade Thread

[codydaze]

I'm not seeing any realistic smoke that we're dealing Domas for a rebuilding package

Just random rumors, but nothing suggesting we are gauging his market, much less to get worse. The only actual reports I've seen are the FO looking for win now pieces

I don't think the end product of my post is significantly, or even at all, worse than what we have now or try to cobble together around Sabonis. That team is still somewhere between a 6-10 seed and actually plays defense.

Edit: And I think we'd still need a point guard in free agency, like a Tyus Jones type to fill out the roster.

If there are kids starting in place of Sabonis, your worse now.. PJ?

I dont even know who Malauch is, but, trading Sabonis for kids doesn't seem the very reported direction (sounds loving shiny things at draft time)

Well Maluach is a consensus top 10 pick that played alongside the consensus number 1 pick in college so I would suggest doing at least a basic amount of draft research before making assumptions. Also you're ignoring that it's not simply Sabonis for the 7 pick but also CJ McCollum, Herb Jones and PJ Washington who are all guys who could definitely help win now and fit with Zach.

[BoogieTime]

I don't think the end product of my post is significantly, or even at all, worse than what we have now or try to cobble together around Sabonis. That team is still somewhere between a 6-10 seed and actually plays defense.

Edit: And I think we'd still need a point guard in free agency, like a Tyus Jones type to fill out the roster.

If there are kids starting in place of Sabonis, your worse now.. PJ?

I dont even know who Malauch is, but, trading Sabonis for kids doesn't seem the very reported direction (sounds loving shiny things at draft time)

Well Maluach is a consensus top 10 pick that played alongside the consensus number 1 pick in college so I would suggest doing at least a basic amount of draft research before making assumptions. Also you're ignoring that it's not simply Sabonis for the 7 pick but also CJ McCollum, Herb Jones and PJ Washington who are all guys who could definitely help win now and fit with Zach.

why would I? the kings dont have a pick. I could care less about it unless it involves the second round where we might pick

Its missing foundational players, just role players and kids imo. Sabonis is a hub

[codydaze]

If there are kids starting in place of Sabonis, your worse now.. PJ?

I dont even know who Malauch is, but, trading Sabonis for kids doesn't seem the very reported direction (sounds loving shiny things at draft time)

Well Maluach is a consensus top 10 pick that played alongside the consensus number 1 pick in college so I would suggest doing at least a basic amount of draft research before making assumptions. Also you're ignoring that it's not simply Sabonis for the 7 pick but also CJ McCollum, Herb Jones and PJ Washington who are all guys who could definitely help win now and fit with Zach.

why would I? the kings dont have a pick. I could care less about it unless it involves the second round where we might pick

Its missing foundational players, just role players and kids imo. Sabonis is a hub

Sabonis as the hub has led us to a playoff series when we had extremely great injury luck while the rest of the conference dealt with injuries and then two straight play-in losses. I know you're fine with that ceiling for the team but if there's an opportunity to improve the roster, it would incompetence to not explore trading Sabonis.

If Lavine is the player you think he is, the resulting roster maximizes what he brings.

[BoogieTime]

Well Maluach is a consensus top 10 pick that played alongside the consensus number 1 pick in college so I would suggest doing at least a basic amount of draft research before making assumptions. Also you're ignoring that it's not simply Sabonis for the 7 pick but also CJ McCollum, Herb Jones and PJ Washington who are all guys who could definitely help win now and fit with Zach.

why would I? the kings dont have a pick. I could care less about it unless it involves the second round where we might pick

Its missing foundational players, just role players and kids imo. Sabonis is a hub

Sabonis as the hub has led us to a playoff series when we had extremely great injury luck while the rest of the conference dealt with injuries and then two straight play-in losses. I know you're fine with that ceiling for the team but if there's an opportunity to improve the roster, it would incompetence to not explore trading Sabonis.

If Lavine is the player you think he is, the resulting roster maximizes what he brings.

What do I think Zac is? It sounded funny to me, even if I'm relatively not low on him, that he would be a centerpiece of anything.

The dictum, whether we like it or not, is to get better in the here and now. They can explore trading anyone to do that, I just meant I don't see them gauging his value to rebuild. Maybe he is the Garland talks or what have you, but on its face, trading him for a prospect doesn't align with winning now. Yes, I'm sure that kid you like in the draft "is different" in that he will for sure translate, but its not the guarantee of winning now

[LightTheBeam]

Lots of talk on what it looks like to move around the edges. What does a full rebuild look like?

Demar to Miami for JJJ + Rozier

Sabonis to Charlotte for Nurkic, Green, Salaun, #4

Monk + Charlotte 2nds to OKC for Joe, Dieng, #15

Lavine to Milwaukee for Dame

JVal to Denver for Zeke & Holmes

#4 (Fears?), #15 (Sorber) . And then we sit on Dame for a year, and ultimately try to trade him next summer for actual value. Buy out Nurkic and Rozier immediately.

Sorber/Jones
Salaun/Holmes
Keegan/Jaquez
Keon/Joe
Fears/Carter

I know this has no chance of happening, but I'd be all in on this type of off-season. That team would pretty much guaranteed to finish last in the conference, and have a great chance to add another top 4 pick to the team.

[BoogieTime]

I can't see a run it back option

I don't mind competing because I feel there are no great teams and the west is aging (yes I realize there are good young teams coming up, its convoluted, but I dont see a penciled in 6 playoff teams going forward). So if you can start to use your picks to climb this team out of the latter playin doldrums to modern Clippers level success, as this isnt a championship or bust town at this point, but thats means being able to start to upgrade the team using some of this draft capital.. Most playoff hopeful teams have already used capital to upgrade, so I cant just this team until it starts to do so as well

But if thats not doable, and you can't start upgrading the team, than it forces a tank. Running it back is just sickly.

[City of Trees]

Blow the team up. Accumulate as many picks as possible

[OGSactownballer]

Traded into the 20’s as expected. Looks like a move to have a play now guy so that they can move other SG’s.

[LightTheBeam]

I think Perry knows a team based around demar, monk, lavine cant win.

I think demar and lavine are negatives on the trade market.
Monk will be traded
Look to move demar to a desperate team at the deadline for expirings.
Let lavine tank command.

Rebuilding the roster, keon, Carter, Clifford, Keegan is a great mix of 23-25 year olds who play the right way.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm hoping that we can entice the Bucks to trade us Lillard and take back LaVine, Murray and 2nds to keep them competitive and Giannis happy for another year. With those player's absences and Lillard on the shelf we could tank adequately to get in the 2026 draft sweepstakes. This way Lillard doesn't need to worry about rushing back so he can get fully healthy for his 2027 and with the understanding that we will trade him to the destination(s) of his choice treating any return in that trade as gravy so there'll be no drama.

If we are willing to go down that road we should be able to deal DeRozan for a young player/pick/expiring as well.

Sabonis and Monk are signed long-term and can stay. Both can be leaders and help develop the few remaining young guys knowing we're resetting for a single year to put us in the best position to contend going forward and we wouldn't harm the tank much as we could load manage them a little extra. Trade Valanciunas at the deadline.

Carter
Monk
Clifford
Sabonis
Valanciunas

I would watch this team with more excitement than if we ran it back because at least we'd see the kids actually play and know a franchise player would be drafted in 2026

[City of Trees]

You can't tank with Monk and Sabonis. They will demand a trade, might as well trade them ahead of the tank

[codydaze]

Zero chance I would give up Keegan to return Lillard, and attaching picks?? Taking back an even worse contract than Lavine and giving up Keegan, even though a lot of Kings fans hate him for some reason, with picks would be disastrous. I would need multiple picks coming to the Kings to do that deal, not the other way around.

I would probably do Derozan and Monk for Lillard but would still need a first attached.

[OGSactownballer]

Hearing some noise that there have been discussions centered around Sabonis and Jaylen Brown.

Anyone else get anything about this?

[codydaze]

Hearing some noise that there have been discussions centered around Sabonis and Jaylen Brown.

Anyone else get anything about this?

I've seen it too but I don't think it was originally from anywhere reputable and a bunch of aggregates just ran with it.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Zero chance I would give up Keegan to return Lillard, and attaching picks?? Taking back an even worse contract than Lavine and giving up Keegan, even though a lot of Kings fans hate him for some reason, with picks would be disastrous. I would need multiple picks coming to the Kings to do that deal, not the other way around.

I would probably do Derozan and Monk for Lillard but would still need a first attached.

Lillard's contract isn't any worse except for the fact that he won't be playing but since we'd be tanking that's actually a good thing. Lillard is better than LaVine. Of course you'd need to attach a young player/pick to even start that conversation. You'd recoup the pick/players when you trade Lillard in the offseason getting a return we couldn't get from LaVine.

You guys are never going to admit Murray is mid are you? The guy isn't even as good nor ever will be as good as Harrison Barnes and so many of you still believe he's one of the best young players in the league. There's a very good chance he loses a decent amount of minutes after the addition of Clifford, Raynaud and with Carter healthy. He might not even get us a couple 2nd rounders by next offseason if we trade him.

[Skybox]

Monk would be amazing in ORL, leading the bench with a relative green light and surrounded by defenders...I'm only here because I do see some SAC fans talking about moving him. ORL just emptied the frp stash for Bane...but maybe you're going more "defense for offense"?

Isaac? Wouldn't he be just the thing to complete Sabonis? Maybe ORL adds Jett Howard to match salary?

Isaac had a crappy year offensively and his All-World defense was just All-League level...but there's an explanation, he and FO agreed to beef him up by 30 lbs last summer, so he could play more at Center. He was very transparent in his exit interview that it was a fail - he was fatigued, felt slower and not himself. He pledged to get back in the gym this summer and expects to be lightning fast and agile again and I believe it adds up. NOBODY in the league has better defensive reflexes and instincts, but his body wasn't keeping up...on the other side of the physical news-he really hasn't missed significant time in 2 years. He has been on a strict minutes restriction, but I think that's an ORL thing - may be ready to spread his wings a little more now. Historically, he's at least an average 3pt shooter - I think fatigue and total lack of an offensive scheme hurt him (and the entire team's shooting) last season. I'm an Isaac believer, but I'd move him for a playmaker/scorer on Monk's level.

At worst, Jett is an expiring - at best, he's a good-sized knockdown sniper with the ability to put the ball on the floor too...just can't get traction in ORL.

[Nyce_1]

Could Orlando rent your Duarte TPE for Jett Howard?

[M-C-G]

Blow the team up. Accumulate as many picks as possible

I don’t know much about your players, but would a deal Round Kuzma/31 1st and maybe the rights to Bogo be enough for Murray, Ellis and Saric?

That would fill a lot of holes on MKE roster but I have zero idea of how those players are valued