2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[SoFlaKingReal]

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We are paying back karma for hacking the system and rostering Lebron for the 4 years of his super prime lol

[fincane30]

Alright I’ll take Beal for Wiggins and Duncan if they send 10 and another pick. I’m doing my best to pivot into further mediocrity and turn **** to gold

Right on.

Move Bam and Herro too.

Have 10 picks to rebuild.

Love it.

Exactly. Why not? Like can anyone genuinely give a reason why we shouldn’t trade Bam/Herro for a combined like 6-8 1sts and then save Phoenix from Beals contract while taking on draft picks?

Here is one. What superstar that you're saving all those picks for is going to Miami without a running mate? Ant is not coming to Miami to be Wade in the late 00s. So not only do you need to attract one star in a scenario where you're lucky enough that he wants to be there, you also have to have another one ready to join him like Brooklyn did with Kyrie and KD. Or bottom out and hope to win a lottery that doesn't reward the worst teams like it once did. Hit on those picks. And not like they hit on Bam and Tyler. One of them has to be potential top 15 player in the league type that other guys are gonna want to leave their situation to play with. And how long will this take? You're looking at 2 years of awful basketball at best. Maybe you think you and the fanbase has the stomach for it. Maybe now. But let the lottery do you like it did the Wizards and Jazz this year a couple of times. The Knicks might really have a chance at Spo in this scenario.

Forget about Riley. Spo won't do it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Fuhk it. Instead of Derozan go get Bradley Beal.

Rozier + Duncan for Beal + 3 FRPS

I mean seriously why not? Because it ruins the 2026 plan?! Who the hell are we going to get? Everyone is declaring Luka is staying with LA so unless I’m missing something there’s no one worth getting? Trae can’t work next to Herro and we’re married to Tyler so that’s dead. Do whatever it takes to build the asset cupboard.

Phoenix doesn't own any 1sts until 2030, I don't think. And that 2030 pick is restricted in some way because of being over the 2nd apron (I think they can't trade it and it becomes #30 automatically? Something like that).

Honestly, doesn’t matter to me. Accumulate any assets you can, they have 5 2nds (at minimum) and 4 1sts to trade including #10 this year.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Right on.

Move Bam and Herro too.

Have 10 picks to rebuild.

Love it.

Exactly. Why not? Like can anyone genuinely give a reason why we shouldn’t trade Bam/Herro for a combined like 6-8 1sts and then save Phoenix from Beals contract while taking on draft picks?

Here is one. What superstar that you're saving all those picks for is going to Miami without a running mate? Ant is not coming to Miami to be Wade in the late 00s. So not only do you need to attract one star in a scenario where you're lucky enough that he wants to be there, you also have to have another one ready to join him like Brooklyn did with Kyrie and KD. Or bottom out and hope to win a lottery that doesn't reward the worst teams like it once did. Hit on those picks. And not like they hit on Bam and Tyler. One of them has to be potential top 15 player in the league type that other guys are gonna want to leave their situation to play with. And how long will this take? You're looking at 2 years of awful basketball at best. Maybe you think you and the fanbase has the stomach for it. Maybe now. But let the lottery do you like it did the Wizards and Jazz this year a couple of times. The Knicks might really have a chance at Spo in this scenario.

Forget about Riley. Spo won't do it.

Ant absolutely would love to join Spo/Bam if he were to ever become available. Even if not give me loads of assets compared to minimal assets.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Only guy that Riley might trade herro for is book, another Kentucky guy.

Herro, ware, jovic, no.20 and whatever picks they want for Booker.

Similar archetype, but a much better defender than herro. The suns could do a full reset until Beal is gone while filling that war chest.

Riley with the light years move.

[oreon]

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We are paying back karma for hacking the system and rostering Lebron for the 4 years of his super prime lol

Nah. We are paying because FO never wants to rebuild. Even do a mini rebuild. So we are always short of picks for trades.

I don't think there's ever been a season for last decade where Heat had all their 1st rounders available to be traded

[fincane30]

Exactly. Why not? Like can anyone genuinely give a reason why we shouldn’t trade Bam/Herro for a combined like 6-8 1sts and then save Phoenix from Beals contract while taking on draft picks?

Here is one. What superstar that you're saving all those picks for is going to Miami without a running mate? Ant is not coming to Miami to be Wade in the late 00s. So not only do you need to attract one star in a scenario where you're lucky enough that he wants to be there, you also have to have another one ready to join him like Brooklyn did with Kyrie and KD. Or bottom out and hope to win a lottery that doesn't reward the worst teams like it once did. Hit on those picks. And not like they hit on Bam and Tyler. One of them has to be potential top 15 player in the league type that other guys are gonna want to leave their situation to play with. And how long will this take? You're looking at 2 years of awful basketball at best. Maybe you think you and the fanbase has the stomach for it. Maybe now. But let the lottery do you like it did the Wizards and Jazz this year a couple of times. The Knicks might really have a chance at Spo in this scenario.

Forget about Riley. Spo won't do it.

Ant absolutely would love to join Spo/Bam if he were to ever become available. Even if not give me loads of assets compared to minimal assets.

You don't know that. Ant didn't even try to recruit KD. He's a different dude. And you had Bam gone in your scenario of acquiring 6-8 first rounders.

[dubasilva]

This is the same drill as last year. There are 100+ pages of comments, and at the end, nothing happens.

Our front office lost its touch, or the other teams are unwilling to deal with Pat.

So we should comment more or less?

It is a free planet.

This is funny. I told you all that nothing would happen.

The Heat system is not for anyone. Many players don't want to go through our program.

Our core of Herro and Bam cannot convince good players to come here.

It is time to get 5-6 first-round picks for these two guys and rebuild. We have drafted well in the middle of the draft, but we need top 10 draft picks. Oklahoma did it. San Antonio is doing it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Alright I’ll take Beal for Wiggins and Duncan if they send 10 and another pick. I’m doing my best to pivot into further mediocrity and turn **** to gold

Ain't nobody at ten this season worth taking that **** on. If Beal didnt work with Booker, he sure as he'll ain't working with Herro.

Honestly not even worried about the on court product but Beal would have more of a role here and be higher in the pecking order. Beal has 2 seasons on his contract, we don’t have a front office capable of building a contender by next season or the season after so I don’t see anything to really be worried about

[Daffy]

Man. No KD and no Jeremiah Fears. I was huge on getting Fears. I knew we should've never made the playoffs. That potentially costed us both.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Here is one. What superstar that you're saving all those picks for is going to Miami without a running mate? Ant is not coming to Miami to be Wade in the late 00s. So not only do you need to attract one star in a scenario where you're lucky enough that he wants to be there, you also have to have another one ready to join him like Brooklyn did with Kyrie and KD. Or bottom out and hope to win a lottery that doesn't reward the worst teams like it once did. Hit on those picks. And not like they hit on Bam and Tyler. One of them has to be potential top 15 player in the league type that other guys are gonna want to leave their situation to play with. And how long will this take? You're looking at 2 years of awful basketball at best. Maybe you think you and the fanbase has the stomach for it. Maybe now. But let the lottery do you like it did the Wizards and Jazz this year a couple of times. The Knicks might really have a chance at Spo in this scenario.

Forget about Riley. Spo won't do it.

Ant absolutely would love to join Spo/Bam if he were to ever become available. Even if not give me loads of assets compared to minimal assets.

You don't know that. Ant didn't even try to recruit KD. He's a different dude. And you had Bam gone in your scenario of acquiring 6-8 first rounders.

Oh I see, I was thinking in the event that we just took on assets for Beal. Yea if you trade Bam as well you’re banking on drafting a top star and going from there. If you trade Bam this summer for picks you can easily bottom out for AJ or the other guy who is apparently just as good or slightly worse. I think his name was Peterson or something

[DayofMourning]

Bam to Spurs.

Herro to Hornets.

[BBallFreak]

I'm so glad we didn't get Durant. I'm all for making a trade, but not for a 37 year old. Let's go get Kuminga.

[carnageta]

It's easy to sh*t on Highsmith but he's a premier 3&D player in today's NBA. Elite defence and can knock down the corner 3. Any contender would be lucky to have him (i.e. Denver).

[MettaWorldPanda]

I mean seriously why not? Because it ruins the 2026 plan?! Who the hell are we going to get? Everyone is declaring Luka is staying with LA so unless I’m missing something there’s no one worth getting? Trae can’t work next to Herro and we’re married to Tyler so that’s dead. Do whatever it takes to build the asset cupboard.

Phoenix doesn't own any 1sts until 2030, I don't think. And that 2030 pick is restricted in some way because of being over the 2nd apron (I think they can't trade it and it becomes #30 automatically? Something like that).

Honestly, doesn’t matter to me. Accumulate any assets you can, they have 5 2nds (at minimum) and 4 1sts to trade including #10 this year.

I don’t think the Suns are engaging us in anything for a minute. That offer we just made easily puts us on a FO’s chit list.

[vagelis]

Antetokounmpo makes more sense for the Heat than Durant.
Durant is not the player he was. He plays as a jump shooter now, he is not explosive anymore.

Can the Heat make a trade for Antetokounmpo?
He may wants to get out of Bucks.


Or trade Herro for Ja Morant

[lastb1ckman]

Alright I’ll take Beal for Wiggins and Duncan if they send 10 and another pick. I’m doing my best to pivot into further mediocrity and turn **** to gold

Ain't nobody at ten this season worth taking that **** on. If Beal didnt work with Booker, he sure as he'll ain't working with Herro.

Honestly not even worried about the on court product but Beal would have more of a role here and be higher in the pecking order. Beal has 2 seasons on his contract, we don’t have a front office capable of building a contender by next season or the season after so I don’t see anything to really be worried about

Taking Beal on literally adds nothing to this team. Hes paid too much, can't defend, and is worse than both Bam and Herro. He also doesnt play well next to a guy like Herro and we'd then have no way to add anyone to support our new core. 3 max contracts with only 2 all star level players. And once all this sinks in, we wouldn't be able to get rid of him because he's too expensive and has a damn no trade clause.

[MettaWorldPanda]

One thing for sure we are not going to blow it up. So we can talk in circles about it but it’s not going to happen. FO seems content to continue working with Jovic and JJJ. The Heat social media had been pumping them endlessly. I do think changes will be made and we will have to see what Rozier, Wiggins and Duncan bring in. Davion Mitchell is 100 coming back.

[BBallFreak]

Antetokounmpo makes more sense for the Heat than Durant.
Durant is not the player he was. He plays as a jump shooter now, he is not explosive anymore.

Can the Heat make a trade for Antetokounmpo?
He may wants to get out of Bucks.


Or trade Herro for Ja Morant

We don't have enough assets to get either

[Lilseb93]

I can live with not getting Durant because he was old and dealt with injuries. He wasn't going to lead us to a title. It's how they are going to pivot that concerns me. They will do something stupid because this FO is no longer good.