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[Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks

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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#181 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:59 pm

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Zeno wrote:These F’ing morons didn’t even cut salary for this garbage. I would assume they have some kind of next move(s) planned but this is the team that turned an unprotected 1st into three garbage 1sts and then proceeded to sit on them.

They gotta get rid of Allen and Royce for players that play other positions but whos gonna want them? I honestly think my 10 year old self would have built a better team that this guy.

I am not sure why because I am not even a Suns fan but this guy pisses me off. The Stepien rule is there for a reason. You can’t have teams this hopeless. But what would the Ishbia rule even be. Plus he made his money ripping off the public. Now he is setting that money on fire to field a team full of SGs and the majority of them aren’t even good ones.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Post#183 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:07 pm

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traps#10 wrote:5 second round picks are useless with NIL deals

How does NIL have any impact? lol


Kids are staying in school for a few million rather than entering the draft early if they're a projected SRP, so the talent pool depth is much worse than it used to be in the second round.

Has that trend actually begun, or just likely to happen?

Edit, nvr mind I see it was discussed thoroughly
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Post#184 » by RaptorPride » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:08 pm

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Zeno wrote:These F’ing morons didn’t even cut salary for this garbage. I would assume they have some kind of next move(s) planned but this is the team that turned an unprotected 1st into three garbage 1sts and then proceeded to sit on them.

They gotta get rid of Allen and Royce for players that play other positions but whos gonna want them? I honestly think my 10 year old self would have built a better team that this guy.

I am not sure why because I am not even a Suns fan but this guy pisses me off. The Stepien rule is there for a reason. You can’t have teams this hopeless. But what would the Ishbia rule even be. Plus he made his money ripping off the public. Now he is setting that money on fire to field a team full of SGs and the majority of them aren’t even good ones.

Wait how did he make his money? I think he thought just throwing money at the team would create a winner. Well if he scammed for his money makes sense he never had to think to build anything.
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Post#185 » by Son Goku 25 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:11 pm

Lol we should honestly go for Demar.

Teach our guys about hard work and loyalty. If he can come cheap of course.
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Post#186 » by bballsparkin » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:11 pm

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No doubt....w/out Ware in the deal MIA's offer was hot trash.


I love that about Riley lol. Neither Dame or KD were big misses for the team they have. They should try to get a top 10 pick in next years draft and then capitalize in 2026 when they are more rebuilt.
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Post#187 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:13 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:How does NIL have any impact? lol


Kids are staying in school for a few million rather than entering the draft early if they're a projected SRP, so the talent pool depth is much worse than it used to be in the second round.

Has that trend actually begun, or just likely to happen?


I think it's only just begun.

NIL money and branding deals as a Star on a College Team vs fighting to make an NBA roster seems like a no brainer to me.
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#188 » by Tripod » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:14 pm

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Post#190 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:17 pm

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RaptorPride wrote:They gotta get rid of Allen and Royce for players that play other positions but whos gonna want them? I honestly think my 10 year old self would have built a better team that this guy.

I am not sure why because I am not even a Suns fan but this guy pisses me off. The Stepien rule is there for a reason. You can’t have teams this hopeless. But what would the Ishbia rule even be. Plus he made his money ripping off the public. Now he is setting that money on fire to field a team full of SGs and the majority of them aren’t even good ones.

Wait how did he make his money? I think he thought just throwing money at the team would create a winner. Well if he scammed for his money makes sense he never had to think to build anything.

He runs a mortgage company that reportedly has a deal with loads of mortgage brokers ,who are supposedly independent, that only recommend his company even though their rates are less favourable. But funnily enough him scamming the public bothers me less than being this incompetent with the proceeds.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Post#191 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:19 pm

Suns at 10 instead of Houston helps our leverage since they want a big. If ATL or Chi have a targeted big they’ll need to jump Suns.
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Post#192 » by Shakril » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:19 pm

Thank god, i feared he could land here.
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Post#193 » by RaptorPride » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:19 pm

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Zeno wrote:I am not sure why because I am not even a Suns fan but this guy pisses me off. The Stepien rule is there for a reason. You can’t have teams this hopeless. But what would the Ishbia rule even be. Plus he made his money ripping off the public. Now he is setting that money on fire to field a team full of SGs and the majority of them aren’t even good ones.

Wait how did he make his money? I think he thought just throwing money at the team would create a winner. Well if he scammed for his money makes sense he never had to think to build anything.

He runs a mortgage company that reportedly has a deal with loads of mortgage brokers ,who are supposedly independent, that only recommend his company even though their rates are less favourable. But funnily enough him scamming the public bothers me less than being this incompetent with the proceeds.

Its cause you know you could do 100 times better given his position.
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Post#194 » by kalel123 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:21 pm

Good riddance. Interesting that I thought appeal for Suns trading Durant to Rockets was to get back some of their own future picks but it doesn't look like any of that has happened here. Sucks for them. Looks like a huge loss for Suns to me especially since this trade probably makes the future picks Rockets own that much better. They are beyond cooked if they start the season with Booker, Green, and Beal.

Makes the Rockets easier team to root against.
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Post#195 » by ciueli » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:22 pm

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So wait... wtf were they offering if they weren't even including their trash haha


Their offer was almost certainly Andrew Wiggins + Duncan Robinson + Miami's first round pick this year (20th overall).
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Post#196 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:23 pm

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Post#197 » by bballsparkin » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:23 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Lol we should honestly go for Demar.

Teach our guys about hard work and loyalty. If he can come cheap of course.


the only thing about trading for DeMar is you can't really trade him afterwards. That would look badly. hah
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Post#198 » by treerollins » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:24 pm

Tripod wrote:
traps#10 wrote:5 second round picks are useless with NIL deals

There can always be talent to be found. Maybe you see more Euro picks


that’s only true in the short term; this year, maybe next year. eventually the guys returning for NIL run out of eligibility and the second round has the same talent pool as you’d traditionally expect. if anything you’ll see more 4 year players who are actually ready to play nba minutes in a bench role.
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#199 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:24 pm

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For sure it expands. I don't expect us to be part of it though.

in the end they probably are going to pay the Nets with the #10 pick to take Grayson Allen into space and get the 19 back. But regardless, why agree to a Durant trade that kind of sucks without working out how the trade can be expanded beforehand. People can see they are even more f’d than they even were before. There leverage is even worse.
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Post#200 » by MiamiSPX » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:26 pm

kalel123 wrote:Good riddance. Interesting that I thought appeal for Suns trading Durant to Rockets was to get back some of their own future picks but it doesn't look like any of that has happened here. Sucks for them. Looks like a huge loss for Suns to me especially since this trade probably makes the future picks Rockets own that much better. They are beyond cooked if they start the season with Booker, Green, and Beal.

Makes the Rockets easier team to root against.


The more you think about it, they likely sent Green there to be their tank commander, owning all the Suns' picks. Brilliant.

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