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[Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks

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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#241 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:33 pm

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League sources say that the Rockets remained adamant — after rebuffing Phoenix's in-season attempts to ship Durant to them and sticking to their desire to leave the core of their team untouched until after the playoffs — that they would not trade for KD if they had to surrender any of their most prized youngsters.

The Suns' first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 that Houston also holds? Sources say that they were never in play in these trade talks.

The Rockets were able, in the end, to do a deal largely on their terms, surrendering Green and Dillon Brooks and the No. 10 overall pick in a draft Wednesday night that, as The Stein Line has been reporting all week, is regarded by numerous scouts and draft evaluators to only feature a clear-cut top eight.


Phoenix will also be getting a significant amount of second-round compensation from the Rockets, but the Suns ultimately decided to take the best deal they could that furnished them with a lottery pick immediately. As The Stein Line reported Friday night, Phoenix had been quietly expressing confidence entering the weekend that it could indeed complete a palatable Durant deal before the draft.

The trade can't officially be consummated until the next salary cap year commences and the NBA's annual moratorium is lifted on July 6, so you'll have to sit through the charade of Houston making the No. 10 pick on Phoenix's behalf on Wednesday night. The Suns, though, now know that they at least managed to secure the first-round pick they were so fervently hoping to acquire in this draft after pursuing a variety of first-round selections in ultimately fruitless talks with other teams, from Toronto's No. 9 pick all the way down to Miami's No. 20 selection and Nos. 14 (San Antonio) and 17 (Minnesota) in between.


As our guy Jake Fischer first reported via Twitter, Phoenix is signaling that it plans to keep Green to pair him with Devin Booker.


There is bound to be some skepticism from watching rivals regarding that stance, mind you, given the obvious Booker/Green fit questions that will be raised. Especially with Bradley Beal also still on the roster.

It also must be remembered that, when the Rockets signed Green to a three-year, $105 million contract extension in October, numerous rival teams saw it as a deal that was offered to the 23-year-old as much for its tradability as Houston's fondness for the player. The Rockets did prove completely unwilling in these talks, by contrast, to part with recent first-round picks such as Jabari Smith Jr. and Reed Sheppard.

Phoenix, as feared, didn't come close to matching the monster haul it gave up to acquire Durant in February 2023, when the Suns packaged Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder to Brooklyn — plus four unprotected first-round picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and swap rights on the teams' first-round selections in 2028 — to get the NBA's No. 8 all-time leading scoring. The Suns, though, did manage to add a former No. 2 overall pick in Green to the first-rounder it will control on Wednesday night and bring in the sort of tough-minded player in Brooks that Suns owner Mat Ishbia has been openly clamoring for since Phoenix went 36-46 and failed to even qualify for the Play-In Tournament.


The presence of Durant's good friend Ime Udoka as Houston's coach was obviously a contributing factor to the trade on numerous fronts. The Rockets were always high on Durant's wish list — and realistically only rose on that list when KD, as The Stein Line first reported last Sunday, had to scratch off the Knicks, who made it known they would be making an offer. And Udoka, who recently received a lucrative contract extension, was a strong behind-the-scenes advocate for adding Durant's bucket-getting to the Rockets' very youthful core despite Houston's well-chronicled timeline concerns given that the future Hall of Famer turns 37 in September.

The Rockets, remember, have also managed to hold on to another of Durant's closest friends: Assistant coach Royal Ivey. As The Stein Line reported earlier this month, multiple teams — including San Antonio — have been trying to hire away Ivey, who committed to staying on Udoka's staff after he did not land the Suns' head coaching job. Ivey was among the candidates that the Suns interviewed for the post before hiring Cleveland Cavaliers assistant Jordan Ott as Ishbia's fourth head coach in four seasons.


The Heat were interested until the end but, as The Stein Line reported Friday night, their refusal to part with rookie center Kel'el Ware essentially ruled Miami out despite the Suns' desire to acquire the No. 20 pick in Wednesday's first round.


Just curious, how is KD close friends with coaches Udoka and Ivey? Brooklyn?
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#243 » by douggood » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:37 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Stein


League sources say that the Rockets remained adamant — after rebuffing Phoenix's in-season attempts to ship Durant to them and sticking to their desire to leave the core of their team untouched until after the playoffs — that they would not trade for KD if they had to surrender any of their most prized youngsters.

The Suns' first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 that Houston also holds? Sources say that they were never in play in these trade talks.

The Rockets were able, in the end, to do a deal largely on their terms, surrendering Green and Dillon Brooks and the No. 10 overall pick in a draft Wednesday night that, as The Stein Line has been reporting all week, is regarded by numerous scouts and draft evaluators to only feature a clear-cut top eight.


Phoenix will also be getting a significant amount of second-round compensation from the Rockets, but the Suns ultimately decided to take the best deal they could that furnished them with a lottery pick immediately. As The Stein Line reported Friday night, Phoenix had been quietly expressing confidence entering the weekend that it could indeed complete a palatable Durant deal before the draft.

The trade can't officially be consummated until the next salary cap year commences and the NBA's annual moratorium is lifted on July 6, so you'll have to sit through the charade of Houston making the No. 10 pick on Phoenix's behalf on Wednesday night. The Suns, though, now know that they at least managed to secure the first-round pick they were so fervently hoping to acquire in this draft after pursuing a variety of first-round selections in ultimately fruitless talks with other teams, from Toronto's No. 9 pick all the way down to Miami's No. 20 selection and Nos. 14 (San Antonio) and 17 (Minnesota) in between.


As our guy Jake Fischer first reported via Twitter, Phoenix is signaling that it plans to keep Green to pair him with Devin Booker.


There is bound to be some skepticism from watching rivals regarding that stance, mind you, given the obvious Booker/Green fit questions that will be raised. Especially with Bradley Beal also still on the roster.

It also must be remembered that, when the Rockets signed Green to a three-year, $105 million contract extension in October, numerous rival teams saw it as a deal that was offered to the 23-year-old as much for its tradability as Houston's fondness for the player. The Rockets did prove completely unwilling in these talks, by contrast, to part with recent first-round picks such as Jabari Smith Jr. and Reed Sheppard.

Phoenix, as feared, didn't come close to matching the monster haul it gave up to acquire Durant in February 2023, when the Suns packaged Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder to Brooklyn — plus four unprotected first-round picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and swap rights on the teams' first-round selections in 2028 — to get the NBA's No. 8 all-time leading scoring. The Suns, though, did manage to add a former No. 2 overall pick in Green to the first-rounder it will control on Wednesday night and bring in the sort of tough-minded player in Brooks that Suns owner Mat Ishbia has been openly clamoring for since Phoenix went 36-46 and failed to even qualify for the Play-In Tournament.


The presence of Durant's good friend Ime Udoka as Houston's coach was obviously a contributing factor to the trade on numerous fronts. The Rockets were always high on Durant's wish list — and realistically only rose on that list when KD, as The Stein Line first reported last Sunday, had to scratch off the Knicks, who made it known they would be making an offer. And Udoka, who recently received a lucrative contract extension, was a strong behind-the-scenes advocate for adding Durant's bucket-getting to the Rockets' very youthful core despite Houston's well-chronicled timeline concerns given that the future Hall of Famer turns 37 in September.

The Rockets, remember, have also managed to hold on to another of Durant's closest friends: Assistant coach Royal Ivey. As The Stein Line reported earlier this month, multiple teams — including San Antonio — have been trying to hire away Ivey, who committed to staying on Udoka's staff after he did not land the Suns' head coaching job. Ivey was among the candidates that the Suns interviewed for the post before hiring Cleveland Cavaliers assistant Jordan Ott as Ishbia's fourth head coach in four seasons.


The Heat were interested until the end but, as The Stein Line reported Friday night, their refusal to part with rookie center Kel'el Ware essentially ruled Miami out despite the Suns' desire to acquire the No. 20 pick in Wednesday's first round.


Just curious, how is KD close friends with coaches Udoka and Ivey? Brooklyn?

yep they were on the coaching staff when KD was there

also

Royal Ivey, is a former Oklahoma City Thunder teammate of Durant’s and has been one of his closest friends for decades.
Just days before the deal went down, it was revealed that one of his University of Texas teammates, D.J. Augustin, would be added to the team’s front office.
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#244 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:39 pm

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There can always be talent to be found. Maybe you see more Euro picks


that’s only true in the short term; this year, maybe next year. eventually the guys returning for NIL run out of eligibility and the second round has the same talent pool as you’d traditionally expect. if anything you’ll see more 4 year players who are actually ready to play nba minutes in a bench role.

I thought a trend of drafting guys who played longer in college was going to pick up after the rookie success of Podzemski and Jaquez two years ago. I know they were late first rounders not 2nds, and their second seasons were up and down. But the idea of bench role rookies who are NBA ready is a good thing.
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Post#245 » by Saul Goodman » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:45 pm

Amazing value for Houston. Keeping that 2027 Phoenix pick and their own going forward is huge for either continuing to build or getting another star. The timeline aargument is moot as getting Sengun Eason and Thompson deep playoff reps is huge for their development
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Post#248 » by alpngso » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:06 pm

Homerun deal for Houston. Gets off Green's contract, didn't give up much other than #10 pick which could've valuable but who cares chances of hitting #10 pick is pretty low. They didn't give up future PHX 1sts.
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Post#249 » by WWSRD » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:06 pm

Hopefully this unleashes a flurry of moves other teams have been waiting for. i.e. some 4 way mega deal involving the Raptors, Blazers, Sacramento and mystery team X.
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Post#252 » by ForeverTFC » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:15 pm

alpngso wrote:Homerun deal for Houston. Gets off Green's contract, didn't give up much other than #10 pick which could've valuable but who cares chances of hitting #10 pick is pretty low. They didn't give up future PHX 1sts.


Chances are even lower in Houston for that 10th pick. Udoka barely played Sheppard and their starting 5 seems pretty set. No brainer to move the pick. Great trade by the Rockets.
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Post#253 » by tsherkin » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:17 pm

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FrozenLeafz wrote:how come the Rockets traded Jalen Green? I don't get this trade, they're trading their future star to have a very small window to win a championship. KD is always injured, it's hard to see them even make the playoffs if KD doesn't play all games in the regular season


lmao at Jalen Green projecting as a future star.


Yeah, no-context 20+ ppg doesn't make someone project as a star. Green's star isn't burning particularly brightly right now, especially with no major improvement on his weaknesses to date. Barnes has improved more to this point in his career than Green has...
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Post#255 » by Merit » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:24 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:The Miami heat Ru dumb, if JJ + Wiggins + 20 could've gotten you KD you do that - if HH could've gotten it done or even Jovic you do that too.
You would've had Ware + one Jovic or JJ, your cupboard wouldn't have been bare.
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Jalen Green > anything on Miami’s roster not named Herro or Bam
#10 > #20
Brooks = Wiggins
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Post#256 » by Appostis » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:38 pm

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TimeForChange wrote:Gradey + RJ + 9 would have done it


Where's the Xtra 13.5m coming from that's needed to make the trade legal ?


And Dick+RJ+9 would be a overpay.

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Post#258 » by Loso04 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:53 pm

Maybe Phx can reroute Green to Brooklyn
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Post#259 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:53 pm

Merit wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:The Miami heat Ru dumb, if JJ + Wiggins + 20 could've gotten you KD you do that - if HH could've gotten it done or even Jovic you do that too.
You would've had Ware + one Jovic or JJ, your cupboard wouldn't have been bare.
I like how Masai plays hardball, but at least he pulls the plug when needed


Jalen Green > anything on Miami’s roster not named Herro or Bam
#10 > #20
Brooks = Wiggins


I'd take Ware long term over Green tbh.
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Post#260 » by Merit » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:54 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
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DreamTeam09 wrote:The Miami heat Ru dumb, if JJ + Wiggins + 20 could've gotten you KD you do that - if HH could've gotten it done or even Jovic you do that too.
You would've had Ware + one Jovic or JJ, your cupboard wouldn't have been bare.
I like how Masai plays hardball, but at least he pulls the plug when needed


Jalen Green > anything on Miami’s roster not named Herro or Bam
#10 > #20
Brooks = Wiggins


I'd take Ware long term over Green tbh.


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