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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

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Post#1041 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:44 pm

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sunsbum wrote:Honestly we need to clear up this SG logjam. I wonder if sacto does green/10 for lavine/monk


Not green … He has a future and Lavine has a terrible contract


Maybe Beal


Yea I know, I was being facetious



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Post#1042 » by Bogyo » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:52 pm

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If RJ and 9 is all you're comparing to, I'll take Brooks and 10 any day of the week.


Oh wow, thats a bad take. Brooks is a clown that noone likes or respects in the league. He is 29 on a bad contract, and shoots 42% from the field and 35% from 3 for his career. He is like 6'5, doesnt rebound, gets as many assists as turnovers, not athletic, basically no improvement over his career. What is there to like about him or his play? Turd on a stick. Clown, wannabe toughguy who is not tough. He is a joke.
Meanwhile RJ 25, on an OK contract, athletic, averaging 20+/6/5 for basically the last 3 years... not sure what to say about that opinion...



Well you're gonna have to learn to cheer for Brooks, just like Crowder when Suns got him in 2020.

Brooks is not on the court for his talent, its for his hustle, defense and enforcer type role.


Mate, that is NEVER happening. Him and the other dude we just got are the 2 biggest loser clowns in the league nowadays. I will never root for them.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1043 » by Calvin Klein » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:00 pm

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sunsbg wrote:Back to good ol' days of reading player profiles on draft sites and dreaming Maluache turns into next Embiid.

oh those excitements for the dragan benders, josh jacksons, marquis chriss of all people


I'll be honest, living through that time frame is exactly why I'm not as in a rush or part of the "Trade Booker to get our 27/29 picks back to rebuild" group. So many teams "rebuilding" all the time and not everyone has a Presti, most teams just end up like the Hornets, not the Thunder.



unfortunately, living through a rebuild is what was guaranteed the day they trade for KD. Nobody wants it but it's what they created.
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Post#1045 » by m1chal » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:04 pm

NOw that KD is gone who are we taking at 10? Unless it's traded together with Beal ;)
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Post#1046 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:10 pm

Is it possible to trade Beal for Lauri if the Suns give up the 10th pick? Would Beal approve, knowing he'd get bought out by the Jazz and a number of teams were interested in him for the MLE? Would the Jazz be willing to move Lauri for that?
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Post#1047 » by Dr Manute » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:10 pm

m1chal wrote:NOw that KD is gone who are we taking at 10? Unless it's traded together with Beal ;)



How about Collin Murray-Boyles.
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Post#1048 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:14 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Is it possible to trade Beal for Lauri if the Suns give up the 10th pick? Would Beal approve, knowing he'd get bought out by the Jazz and a number of teams were interested in him for the MLE? Would the Jazz be willing to move Lauri for that?


Why are you so hellbent on trading away our only lotto.pick for close to the next decade man? Especially when we need young, athletic, cost controlled talent and were obviously nowhere close to competing.

I like Lauri, but come on now. :dontknow:
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Post#1049 » by dremill24 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:17 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Is it possible to trade Beal for Lauri if the Suns give up the 10th pick? Would Beal approve, knowing he'd get bought out by the Jazz and a number of teams were interested in him for the MLE? Would the Jazz be willing to move Lauri for that?


Why are you so hellbent on trading away our only lotto.pick for close to the next decade man? Especially when we need young, athletic, cost controlled talent and were obviously nowhere close to competing.

I like Lauri, but come on now. :dontknow:


You've suggested trading out of the 9th or 10th pick after getting it in a KD deal countless times...
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Post#1050 » by starbosa10 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:23 pm

Just don't waive and stretch Beal please.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1051 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:28 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Is it possible to trade Beal for Lauri if the Suns give up the 10th pick? Would Beal approve, knowing he'd get bought out by the Jazz and a number of teams were interested in him for the MLE? Would the Jazz be willing to move Lauri for that?


Why are you so hellbent on trading away our only lotto.pick for close to the next decade man? Especially when we need young, athletic, cost controlled talent and were obviously nowhere close to competing.

I like Lauri, but come on now. :dontknow:


Why are you so hellbent on trading all of our players for draft picks? Every year, its the same thing. Trade our players for other players, then flip those guys to other teams to get draft picks. Then consolidate draft picks for a higher pick, or even trade down to obtain even more draft picks. I get it... you want the Suns to have 10 guys on rookie contracts, that are cost-controlled that way they have complete financial flexibility to do anything.

I wouldn't say Suns aren't close to competing. Everyone thought Warriors were done competing after 2021 not making the playoffs. Then the following season they won the championship. The Lakers traded away Shaq, had a couple of terrible seasons with just Kobe Bryant, then they traded for Pau Gasol and then they were good again and made 3 straight Finals appearances, winning 2 of them.

Additionally, I am basing my posts on what I am hearing about Beal possibly being traded. Last time I checked, nobody wanted Beal, and so in order to trade him, Suns might have to attach something of value. I was only trying to flip trading Beal into a player that might actually help the team.

I don't mind keeping the pick by the way.
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Post#1052 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:30 pm

starbosa10 wrote:Just don't waive and stretch Beal please.


That would be the worst solution. Well or trading him adding a bunch of draft picks

I think if they are patient and let this year go - they waive him next year or he would be a very large expiring.

O'Neale and Allen - get some cap relief from those trades or at worst, get an expiring sooner than 2028
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Post#1053 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:43 pm

One positive for getting Jalen Green is that he actually plays games. Availability>>>> ability.

He hasn’t missed a game in the last two years.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1054 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:45 pm

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starbosa10 wrote:Just don't waive and stretch Beal please.


That would be the worst solution. Well or trading him adding a bunch of draft picks

I think if they are patient and let this year go - they waive him next year or he would be a very large expiring.

O'Neale and Allen - get some cap relief from those trades or at worst, get an expiring sooner than 2028

I concur. Play him out this year. Next year he becomes an enticing expiring asset for a trade at worst. Stretch and waive is just dumb!
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1055 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:48 pm

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starbosa10 wrote:Just don't waive and stretch Beal please.


That would be the worst solution. Well or trading him adding a bunch of draft picks

I think if they are patient and let this year go - they waive him next year or he would be a very large expiring.

O'Neale and Allen - get some cap relief from those trades or at worst, get an expiring sooner than 2028

I concur. Play him out this year. Next year he becomes an enticing expiring asset for a trade at worst. Stretch and waive is just dumb!



And really - so you stretch Beal and you sign a player. Aside from signing a player at a position that might help more - hard to think that player will be better than Beal - if healthy. Ott can roll out funky lineups this year. Give me the big expiring contract over a short term move and being stuck with a bunch of dead cap when you might be a better team and need that $19m
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Post#1056 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:53 pm

Stretching Beal is the DUMBEST move possible, hence Ishiba is most likely thinking about it.

Keep him and ensure he's healthy putting up numbers. Then you think about trading him once teams start to actually want him for either his talent or his expiring.
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Post#1057 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:57 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Is it possible to trade Beal for Lauri if the Suns give up the 10th pick? Would Beal approve, knowing he'd get bought out by the Jazz and a number of teams were interested in him for the MLE? Would the Jazz be willing to move Lauri for that?


Why are you so hellbent on trading away our only lotto.pick for close to the next decade man? Especially when we need young, athletic, cost controlled talent and were obviously nowhere close to competing.

I like Lauri, but come on now. :dontknow:


Because the SUNS are the worst drafting franchise in NBA history. I would take Markannen over anyone in this draft minus the top 2. That is probably why I would do it.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1058 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:01 pm

Rockets fans really didn’t/dont like Jalen Green and happy to see him go. They like Brooks more than Green. From what I see from Houston fans prospective. Jalen can’t shoot worth a poop (bad shooting form) but he can take it to the rim which we needed on our team. They don’t feel like he has progressed as a player in four years.

I think it’s obvious we are going to be trade at least 3 more players before the season starts. I’m not sure I trust Gambos opinion the Suns wanna keep Jalen. The Suns gonna tell Gambo what they want him to know, not what they actual plan to do.

Read the comments at the bottom of the article.
https://www.thedreamshake.com/2025/6/22/24453719/breaking-news-houston-rockets-acquires-forward-kevin-durant-phoenix-suns-in-massive-deal-jalen-green#comments

It’s blatantly obvious by the lack of comments right after this trade on this board that everyone are either blah on this trade or just completely burnt out or they don’t trust the Ishbia regime.
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Post#1059 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:03 pm

thamadkant wrote:Stretching Beal is the DUMBEST move possible, hence Ishiba is most likely thinking about it.

Keep him and ensure he's healthy putting up numbers. Then you think about trading him once teams start to actually want him for either his talent or his expiring.

Keep preaching. Everything you said is correct.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1060 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:25 pm

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That would be the worst solution. Well or trading him adding a bunch of draft picks

I think if they are patient and let this year go - they waive him next year or he would be a very large expiring.

O'Neale and Allen - get some cap relief from those trades or at worst, get an expiring sooner than 2028

I concur. Play him out this year. Next year he becomes an enticing expiring asset for a trade at worst. Stretch and waive is just dumb!



And really - so you stretch Beal and you sign a player. Aside from signing a player at a position that might help more - hard to think that player will be better than Beal - if healthy. Ott can roll out funky lineups this year. Give me the big expiring contract over a short term move and being stuck with a bunch of dead cap when you might be a better team and need that $19m

We aren’t going to the finals anytime soon so to be honest, funky line-ups or no funky line-ups, it doesn’t really matter. Might as well just keep Beal.
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