Options for This Offseason

[vvoland]

Aldama is not a starting center.

Our starting center is a weird position that, on the most important nights, won't close. We really need a backup quality big to eat some starter minutes to keep the wear and tear on Dray to a min. I think most in the org are fine with Post in that role to start next season. I don't know if I disagree.

[EvanZ]

Aldama is not a starting center.

Our starting center is a weird position that, on the most important nights, won't close. We really need a backup quality big to eat some starter minutes to keep the wear and tear on Dray to a min. I think most in the org are fine with Post in that role to start next season. I don't know if I disagree.

Their plan might be "Let's pray we can start Post and play him 20 mpg in the regular season and still win 50 games and just get a 6 or 7 seed again".

[whatisacenter]

Aldama is not a starting center.

Our starting center is a weird position that, on the most important nights, won't close. We really need a backup quality big to eat some starter minutes to keep the wear and tear on Dray to a min. I think most in the org are fine with Post in that role to start next season. I don't know if I disagree.

Their plan might be "Let's pray we can start Post and play him 20 mpg in the regular season and still win 50 games and just get a 6 or 7 seed again".

Yeah, as long as Draymond is on the roster, the Warriors are not going to invest in a center just to have them ride the pine once the post season starts.

[DAWill1128]

I would like to try and see if we can get Goga Bitadze with that 8.8 million traded player exception. He's a big guy that likes to mix it up inside, decent touch, can pass and keep the ball moving.

[AirP.]

One option mentioned, blow past the 2nd apron by overpaying players they resign like Looney & GPII on inflated 1+1contract (+1 so there's no veto rights) to give you a bigger amount of money to trade for later on in the season (say an expiring contract + asset)... if money isn't an issue for ownership.

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[TB]

One option mentioned, blow past the 2nd apron by overpaying players they resign like Looney & GPII on inflated 1+1contract (+1 so there's no veto rights) to give you a bigger amount of money to trade for later on in the season (say an expiring contract + asset)... if money isn't an issue for ownership.

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If they are over the 2nd apron they can't combine salaries in a trade.

[AirP.]

One option mentioned, blow past the 2nd apron by overpaying players they resign like Looney & GPII on inflated 1+1contract (+1 so there's no veto rights) to give you a bigger amount of money to trade for later on in the season (say an expiring contract + asset)... if money isn't an issue for ownership.

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If they are over the 2nd apron they can't combine salaries in a trade.

Right, so if you overpay players like Looney or GPII you can trade for players under their salary based on the other team's apron rules (if they have any). On overpaying the players, if you go past 120% of their last year's pay you then can only get back half their salary. So, it would seem GPII could be paid 10.9 mil and Looney 9.6, so later in the season they could be traded individually for player(s) who combined for less than their salaries, you could also send draft compensation. So basically, you'd send a ~10 million expiring contract with maybe draft compensation for a less than 10-million-dollar player, possibly on a longer contract. This method is very expensive since GS is already in the repeater tax.

Now, they do talk about what can be done to stay out of the apron and how that could affect how they can acquire talent for this next year.

[vvoland]

Retaining loon and gp2 at 10m to use in trades seems like a terrible gamble. I'm guessing they get close to the 2nd apron but don't breach it

[TB]

One option mentioned, blow past the 2nd apron by overpaying players they resign like Looney & GPII on inflated 1+1contract (+1 so there's no veto rights) to give you a bigger amount of money to trade for later on in the season (say an expiring contract + asset)... if money isn't an issue for ownership.

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If they are over the 2nd apron they can't combine salaries in a trade.

Right, so if you overpay players like Looney or GPII you can trade for players under their salary based on the other team's apron rules (if they have any). On overpaying the players, if you go past 120% of their last year's pay you then can only get back half their salary. So, it would seem GPII could be paid 10.9 mil and Looney 9.6, so later in the season they could be traded individually for player(s) who combined for less than their salaries, you could also send draft compensation. So basically, you'd send a ~10 million expiring contract with maybe draft compensation for a less than 10-million-dollar player, possibly on a longer contract. This method is very expensive since GS is already in the repeater tax.

Now, they do talk about what can be done to stay out of the apron and how that could affect how they can acquire talent for this next year.

Gotcha, thanks for the context. I figured in the video they wouldn’t just ignore the apron rules, but couldn’t find that part.

My guess is warriors will sign Kuminga, use TPMLE and vet minimums and stay just under the 2nd apron so they can have some flexibility at the deadline if needed… unless of course some miracle sign and trade presents itself, but that seems unlikely.

[AirP.]

Retaining loon and gp2 at 10m to use in trades seems like a terrible gamble. I'm guessing they get close to the 2nd apron but don't breach it

You don't think they could get a better fit than GP2 or Looney at around ~10 mil each with a 2nd or even a 1st attached to the package? So PG2 at 10.9 could get you any combo or single player under his salary...Wendell Carter Jr, L.Ball, R.O'Neal, D. Jones Jr, C.Martin (either twin), N.Marshall, J.Smith, Bitadze, Niang, KJ Martin, M.Christie, Coulibaly , K.Williams, M.Williams, S.Bey (missing last year), J.Hardy, H.Highsmith, K.Dunn or Kessler.

GS could just send multiple 1sts to grab a younger player who hasn't hit their 2nd contract yet.

You never know who will fall out of contention and decide to rebuild before the deadline. If you're sending out multiple first I would suspect you're adding a player who will help going into the post-Curry era much easier.

[vvoland]

Retaining loon and gp2 at 10m to use in trades seems like a terrible gamble. I'm guessing they get close to the 2nd apron but don't breach it

You don't think they could get a better fit than GP2 or Looney at around ~10 mil each with a 2nd or even a 1st attached to the package? So PG2 at 10.9 could get you any combo or single player under his salary...Wendell Carter Jr, L.Ball, R.O'Neal, D. Jones Jr, C.Martin (either twin), N.Marshall, J.Smith, Bitadze, Niang, KJ Martin, M.Christie, Coulibaly , K.Williams, M.Williams, S.Bey (missing last year), J.Hardy, H.Highsmith, K.Dunn or Kessler.

GS could just send multiple 1sts to grab a younger player who hasn't hit their 2nd contract yet.

You never know who will fall out of contention and decide to rebuild before the deadline. If you're sending out multiple first I would suspect you're adding a player who will help going into the post-Curry era much easier.

Trading two firsts would leave the warriors without enough assets to do anything else. No one on that list looks like the final piece to this puzzle.

If we go all in (trading multiple firsts and enough salary) I think they need a trey murphy level player. Not likely but that's what I'd try to get - a young player with all star upside. Bane is another example but his contact was too much. I think we can get to trey's number without giving up dray or jk.

A pick + podz and moody should be good enough to get someone like Monk - a 6th man of the year type. MM is someone I would absolutely ask about this summer.

[Upperclass]

Warriors didnt want to move Draymond..

[floppymoose]

The recent Durant trade was what should have been done with Steph. HOU was such a natural trade partner for a team with an aging HoFer. And Steph would have fit them even better than KD.

Had they done that instead of adding JB, they would have Jalen Green and Kuminga to lead the tank, the number 10 pick from the trade, and their own pick which would have been around 15.

[Upperclass]

You don’t trade Steph.. He walks. You also don’t trade Steph before Draymond or Jimmy..

[floppymoose]

In my scenario, JB was never here.

If i were GM, I trade anybody when it is the right move for the team.

[vvoland]

The recent Durant trade was what should have been done with Steph. HOU was such a natural trade partner for a team with an aging HoFer. And Steph would have fit them even better than KD.

Had they done that instead of adding JB, they would have Jalen Green and Kuminga to lead the tank, the number 10 pick from the trade, and their own pick which would have been around 15.

That sounds terrible. Why would we do that unless Steph demands it? You want to get an early start to the tank with the incentive being the #10 and our own late lottery pick? I have no interest in watching bad basketball and we'll all have to soon enough. Is it not soon enough?

[Senchu]

Would you want Bradley Beal if Suns buy him out?

[donkeylips]

Yes

[statsman]

Would you want Bradley Beal if Suns buy him out?

A buyout of Beal would cost the Suns $22M/yr for FIVE years. I can't see them doing that.

[whatisacenter]

Would you want Bradley Beal if Suns buy him out?

Sure, why not?

The team need a rim running 3 pt shooting big and a backup PG that can be a POA defender.

He could fill both of those rolls for Kerr.