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BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap) 

Post#1181 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:30 pm

Was Bane the 2nd or 3rd option on the Grizzlies?
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Post#1182 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:01 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Was Bane the 2nd or 3rd option on the Grizzlies?

I mean it’s kinda tough to define option on this Memphis team. When Ja plays he is the number 1. JJJ is probably the number 2 and Bane is 3rd most of the time when they were healthy. When Morant was out Bane was number 2 but I feel like he should have been the 1st option. I really dont think a team can win if JJJ is there number 1 just doesn’t distribute at all unless he has to. Bizarrely though at the end of season they had Scottie Pippen Jr eating into Bane’s usage. I imagine him and his agents probably made that known they were not happy with that then that might have pushed Memphis to consider trading him.
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Post#1184 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:37 pm

Will people stop crying about the PHX pick now? PHX isnt going to tank, short of lottery magic, it isnt going to be top-10.
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Post#1185 » by thelead » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:39 pm

tiderulz wrote:Will people stop crying about the PHX pick now? PHX isnt going to tank, short of lottery magic, it isnt going to be top-10.

we'll see how the rest of their summer goes. They're still lacking a PG and bigs.... while still being a 2nd apron team.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap) 

Post#1186 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:53 pm

tiderulz wrote:Will people stop crying about the PHX pick now? PHX isnt going to tank, short of lottery magic, it isnt going to be top-10.


They're not going to outright tank, but I'm not sure they're going to be very good either.

They didn't tank this past year and their pick ended up 10th. And that was *with* Durant playing at an all-NBA level.
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Post#1187 » by Skybox » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:13 pm

That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap) 

Post#1188 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:20 pm

Skybox wrote:That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not


I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.
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Post#1189 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:58 pm

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tiderulz wrote:Will people stop crying about the PHX pick now? PHX isnt going to tank, short of lottery magic, it isnt going to be top-10.


They're not going to outright tank, but I'm not sure they're going to be very good either.

They didn't tank this past year and their pick ended up 10th. And that was *with* Durant playing at an all-NBA level.

im not saying they will be a playoff team, but they arent going to tank and are going to try
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Post#1190 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:03 am

Knightro wrote:
Skybox wrote:That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not


I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.


Yup.. they could even use it to draft someone as good as..... Bane.

Seriously, even our 28 and 30 picks they could get a Jokic Giannis Arenas Jimmy type player. You never know.
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Post#1191 » by CLosP » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:24 am

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Skybox wrote:That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not


I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.


Yup.. they could even use it to draft someone as good as..... Bane.

Seriously, even our 28 and 30 picks they could get a Jokic Giannis Arenas Jimmy type player. You never know.


Right but would Orlando’s front office draft that same player? Can’t be so sure of that.
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Post#1192 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:25 am

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I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.


Yup.. they could even use it to draft someone as good as..... Bane.

Seriously, even our 28 and 30 picks they could get a Jokic Giannis Arenas Jimmy type player. You never know.


Right but would Orlando’s front office draft that same player? Can’t be so sure of that.


Yup... its reallythe draw of the cards...
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Post#1193 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:45 am

tiderulz wrote:Will people stop crying about the PHX pick now? PHX isnt going to tank, short of lottery magic, it isnt going to be top-10.

Probably not. They will continue to cry about it.
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Post#1194 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:04 pm

Skybox wrote:That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not


I forget what day I learned about the trade, but unless I am here I do not remember it even existing and I follow the team.

We needed a complete 3rd option today. We traded 4 unknowns, and 2 known roll players for someone that could be an all-star in his position next season while simultaneously keeping every 1st round pick we have made after Franz + Suggs.

3 of those unknown picks could by high 20s. 1 of those picks might make lottery, but are we saying that pick will end up better then the complete 3rd option we got? Or will they be forgotten as we are positioned to make deep playoff runs?

We are going to be sooooo fine.
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Post#1195 » by jezzerinho » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:05 pm

I think all anyone who has pointed out the possible value of the pick haul wants to do is disabuse the notion that the FO pulled some kind of rabbit out of a hat with this trade.

They traded for a very good player that was made available to them by paying market- or above-market value. In other words, the basics of their job.

I'm rooting for this team like never before. I'm excited for this young roster. None of that changes.

But - to me anyway - the discussion on whether those picks end up having a high value IS useful as far as deciding if we have a good FO or not.

I still believe Weltman is subpar. This trade - given the timing, cost and team needs doesn't shift my opinion. It could be very successful in which case I'll give the FO props. But I still wouldn't hire JW for my own franchise.
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Post#1196 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:12 pm

jezzerinho wrote:I think all anyone who has pointed out the possible value of the pick haul wants to do is disabuse the notion that the FO pulled some kind of rabbit out of a hat with this trade.

They traded for a very good player that was made available to them by paying market- or above-market value. In other words, the basics of their job.

I'm rooting for this team like never before. I'm excited for this young roster. None of that changes.

But - to me anyway - the discussion on whether those picks end up having a high value IS useful as far as deciding if we have a good FO or not.

I still believe Weltman is subpar. This trade - given the timing, cost and team needs doesn't shift my opinion. It could be very successful in which case I'll give the FO props. But I still wouldn't hire JW for my own franchise.


I like the trade, but I have OCD and fixate on stuff so I will be checking on the Suns this year :lol:

I understand the trade though and you have to give up to get. It is a risk, but it does seem like a decent time to go all in and they gave themselves at least a 4 year window to do so. We have some exciting years coming and that makes me very excited.

Suns pick isn't guaranteed to be anything, but does have a small chance to be a generational player, we just have to hope Bane brings us success now that makes that not matter. I agree that the mindset should be that it is done and irrelevant now, but I will personally still look over my shoulder at the Suns occasionally :lol: Just how my brain works. I am fine with the trade though, ecstatic for the season to start and excited to see how we balance out this roster.
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Post#1197 » by jezzerinho » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:31 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:I think all anyone who has pointed out the possible value of the pick haul wants to do is disabuse the notion that the FO pulled some kind of rabbit out of a hat with this trade.

They traded for a very good player that was made available to them by paying market- or above-market value. In other words, the basics of their job.

I'm rooting for this team like never before. I'm excited for this young roster. None of that changes.

But - to me anyway - the discussion on whether those picks end up having a high value IS useful as far as deciding if we have a good FO or not.

I still believe Weltman is subpar. This trade - given the timing, cost and team needs doesn't shift my opinion. It could be very successful in which case I'll give the FO props. But I still wouldn't hire JW for my own franchise.


I like the trade, but I have OCD and fixate on stuff so I will be checking on the Suns this year :lol:

I understand the trade though and you have to give up to get. It is a risk, but it does seem like a decent time to go all in and they gave themselves at least a 4 year window to do so. We have some exciting years coming and that makes me very excited.

Suns pick isn't guaranteed to be anything, but does have a small chance to be a generational player, we just have to hope Bane brings us success now that makes that not matter. I agree that the mindset should be that it is done and irrelevant now, but I will personally still look over my shoulder at the Suns occasionally :lol: Just how my brain works. I am fine with the trade though, ecstatic for the season to start and excited to see how we balance out this roster.


Oh, totally. We definitely had to do something and Bane is a good player and if it all works who cares about the FO.
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Post#1198 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:01 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Skybox wrote:That pick is ancient irrelevant history to now...maybe a thread for those of us tracking it...but I'm not


I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.


Yup.. they could even use it to draft someone as good as..... Bane.

Seriously, even our 28 and 30 picks they could get a Jokic Giannis Arenas Jimmy type player. You never know.

Anything can happen. But ... Not only will you have to draft that player.... 1 year from now.... But also develop that individual.... Which might not align with the current window that they are interested in succeeding.... Compared to having a Bane doing the Bane things that we need ... On the roster NOW.

But .. as discussed by many.... If we wanted to go on another direction ... I'm sure we can recoup picks if needed through a trade of some of our players.

Let's just hope that it all works out. We will see. And there is a world where everyone gets what they want. Memphis gets future flexibility to build around Ja and JJJ.... And we get.... the player of our dreams and vy for immediate contention in the East starting now
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Post#1199 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:14 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
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Knightro wrote:
I feel the same. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

That pick could end up awesome, and if it does good for the Grizzlies. But that’s the cost of doing business.


Yup.. they could even use it to draft someone as good as..... Bane.

Seriously, even our 28 and 30 picks they could get a Jokic Giannis Arenas Jimmy type player. You never know.

Anything can happen. But ... Not only will you have to draft that player.... 1 year from now.... But also develop that individual.... Which might not align with the current window that they are interested in succeeding.... Compared to having a Bane doing the Bane things that we need ... On the roster NOW.

But .. as discussed by many.... If we wanted to go on another direction ... I'm sure we can recoup picks if needed through a trade of some of our players.

Let's just hope that it all works out. We will see. And there is a world where everyone gets what they want. Memphis gets future flexibility to build around Ja and JJJ.... And we get.... the player of our dreams and vy for immediate contention in the East starting now


Unfortunately hindsight is 20-20. Based on the cards I am looking at now the suns pick is only going to look bad of its top 3 in a stacked draft. As others have said though, that player may not be playoff ready right away and could take another 2-4 years to develop.
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Post#1200 » by dsg2021 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:50 pm

I found the two biggest reasons that made ORL pull the trigger on the Bane deal.


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