2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[twix2500]

Amazing how Blazers F'up their team by trading Lillard.

[Vertical Limit]

What a massive overpay by Houston.. good lord… for 37 year old Durant? Jalen Green a young up and comer star, dillon brooks and the #10 and all those seconds? There is no way i am so relieved we didnt do such a stupid transaction.

Here im afraid we would give up 2 firsts, and the rockets give up everything for an old durant

Once again saved from our own stupidity.

We have dodged a few bullets, and its no one shooting at us its Andy and Riley playing russian roulette with our salary cap and assets.


Last year’s bullet was Offering Caleb Martin 65 million, he felt dissed and he went to test free agency, got half of what we offered….


This years bullet wouldve been offering multiple firsts, jovic, JJJ, ware for Durant.. goodness… this front office worries the **** out of me…

[Johnny Fontane]

Beal+10 for Wiggins Rozier Robinson

Herro for whatever you can get for him

Bam to spurs for castle and first rounders

[DayofMourning]

Beal+10 for Wiggins Rozier Robinson

Herro for whatever you can get for him

Bam to spurs for castle and first rounders

Davion/Fears
Harper/Larsson
Jovic/Jaime
Fleming/Asa
Ware/Raynaud

Then Dybantsa next year.

Pretty simple really. Jerseys would be sold.

[insfo]

The thing a lot of fans get sucked into is trying to find deals that maximizes the strengths of Bam and Herro. Like, yeah let's find a ball dominant PG who moves Herro off the ball, or let's find someone who can throw pinpoint lobs to Bam to get his scoring up. To me that's a recipe for failure, now and for the foreseeable future.

Step 1: Clear the table. Trade Bam & Herro. Get a boatload of picks/young players

Step 2: Let the young ones run the show. Ware in particular, Jovic, Keshad, Pelle should all be playing major minutes. If you are able to get a Castle or a Harper with step 1, put them at the top of the list

Step 3: Change the whole vibe of this team. Rebrand Heat Culture. Let us be the young and carefree team for once and not have the burden of expectations. I'm sure Spo find his mojo back with a team like that. We'll likely lose 50 games, but let's have fun doing it. Run & gun!!!

Step 4: Add a premium lottery talent next year. All the young guys should have another year of actual on-court reps.

Step 5: Keep improving year-over-year.

If the opportunity presents itself in a year or two to go after a young star then let's go do that. I just don't want to keep treadmilling by trying to maximize or build around 2 Titos!

[Beenie]

Beal+10 for Wiggins Rozier Robinson

Herro for whatever you can get for him

Bam to spurs for castle and first rounders

They ain’t coughing up this years num 10, I would guess

2 future picks for Beal tho is a fair request

Mia can then offer Herro Jaquez and 5 firsts for Giannis

[Flash4thewin]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

[Bishop45]

Love that for Rockets, look forward to seeing them play next year. Getting ready for the Booker '27 campaign!

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[Vertical Limit]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

Jovic is only an asset to Heat fans… i promise you no one else in the league knows who he is….

But i think some team like the Lakers will definitely consider a trade for Wiggins.. lebron most definitely prefers wiggins’ experience over Hachimura.

Hachimura - 18m expiring
Kebler - 11m expiring
Protected first

For Wiggins

It works.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

Jovic is only an asset to Heat fans… i promise you no one else in the league knows who he is….

But i think some team like the Lakers will definitely consider a trade for Wiggins.. lebron most definitely prefers wiggins’ experience over Hachimura.

Hachimura - 18m expiring
Kebler - 11m expiring
Protected first

For Wiggins

It works.

No one wants Wiggins man....no one but Riley. It was a Warrior fleece.

I bet in your trade scenario, it would be the Heat who would have to include a protected first to convince the Lakers to take on Wiggins extra year.

[insfo]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

Didn't the Suns ask for all of them (according to Shams)? Yeah, maybe they aren't at the level of a 22 year old #2 draft pick from a couple of years ago, but how does that equate to them not having any value as assets?

[SoFlaKingReal]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

Didn't the Suns ask for all of them (according to Shams)? Yeah, maybe they aren't at the level of a 22 year old #2 draft pick from a couple of years ago, but how does that equate to them not having any value as assets?

Because when you are asked to empty the cupboard for a 38 year old, clearly those pieces don't have much value individually.

If Suns really liked Jovic, then a deal could have been made. But they probably think hes ok at best, same with JJJ.

[Shewasfly]

KD is going to be 40 years old according to some of you by the time all this sour grapes talk is done

Let's just move on.

[insfo]

Let this be a friendly reminder to those who though Jovic, JJJ Wiggins are asset, that was clearly not the case.

Didn't the Suns ask for all of them (according to Shams)? Yeah, maybe they aren't at the level of a 22 year old #2 draft pick from a couple of years ago, but how does that equate to them not having any value as assets?

Because when you are asked to empty the cupboard for a 38 year old, clearly those pieces don't have much value individually.

If Suns really liked Jovic, then a deal could have been made. But they probably think hes ok at best, same with JJJ.

Just saying that this sentiment would have had value if KD had been traded for Dillon Brooks and a top-15 protected future pick.

But the reality was that they got the #10 pick this year, and a top-end lotto talent in Green (whatever you think of him as a player) + 5 2nd rounders!

[marson]

Houston had the better package without losing their key players. Great situation for KD.

[SoFlaKingReal]

KD is going to be 40 years old according to some of you by the time all this sour grapes talk is done

Let's just move on.

Thats the problem right now....theres very little to move on to. Heat are absolutely stuck.

It is always something. We have a team filled with so many mid role players, we may not have roster space or cap room to even keep the 20th pick.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Didn't the Suns ask for all of them (according to Shams)? Yeah, maybe they aren't at the level of a 22 year old #2 draft pick from a couple of years ago, but how does that equate to them not having any value as assets?

Because when you are asked to empty the cupboard for a 38 year old, clearly those pieces don't have much value individually.

If Suns really liked Jovic, then a deal could have been made. But they probably think hes ok at best, same with JJJ.

Just saying that this sentiment would have had value if KD had been traded for Dillon Brooks and a top-15 protected future pick.

But the reality was that they got the #10 pick this year, and a top-end lotto talent in Green (whatever you think of him as a player) + 5 2nd rounders!

Yup, I have no clue how the Heat were even in the running in trade conversations. Looking at what PHX ended up getting from Houston, its embarassing that we thought the Heat had a shot with Wiggins, Jovic, #20, and Duncan cap savings.

[Vertical Limit]

Because when you are asked to empty the cupboard for a 38 year old, clearly those pieces don't have much value individually.

If Suns really liked Jovic, then a deal could have been made. But they probably think hes ok at best, same with JJJ.

Just saying that this sentiment would have had value if KD had been traded for Dillon Brooks and a top-15 protected future pick.

But the reality was that they got the #10 pick this year, and a top-end lotto talent in Green (whatever you think of him as a player) + 5 2nd rounders!

Yup, I have no clue how the Heat were even in the running in trade conversations. Looking at what PHX ended up getting from Houston, its embarassing that we thought the Heat had a shot with Wiggins, Jovic, #20, and Duncan cap savings.

I suggested Herro, #20 and Robinson to get it done… i wasnt even close

[marson]

Because when you are asked to empty the cupboard for a 38 year old, clearly those pieces don't have much value individually.

If Suns really liked Jovic, then a deal could have been made. But they probably think hes ok at best, same with JJJ.

Just saying that this sentiment would have had value if KD had been traded for Dillon Brooks and a top-15 protected future pick.

But the reality was that they got the #10 pick this year, and a top-end lotto talent in Green (whatever you think of him as a player) + 5 2nd rounders!

Yup, I have no clue how the Heat were even in the running in trade conversations. Looking at what PHX ended up getting from Houston, its embarassing that we thought the Heat had a shot with Wiggins, Jovic, #20, and Duncan cap savings.

I believe the Suns are primarily targeting the 10th pick. If we reverse our picks and offer Wiggins, Rozier, and the 10th overall pick, they would likely accept that deal.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Just saying that this sentiment would have had value if KD had been traded for Dillon Brooks and a top-15 protected future pick.

But the reality was that they got the #10 pick this year, and a top-end lotto talent in Green (whatever you think of him as a player) + 5 2nd rounders!

Yup, I have no clue how the Heat were even in the running in trade conversations. Looking at what PHX ended up getting from Houston, its embarassing that we thought the Heat had a shot with Wiggins, Jovic, #20, and Duncan cap savings.

I believe the Suns are primarily targeting the 10th pick. If we reverse our picks and offer Wiggins, Rozier, and the 10th overall pick, they would likely accept that deal.

Probably. If we knew Houston was offering the #10 pick, that would've been an end of the Heat's chances right there.