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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1341 » by Yallbecrazy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:11 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1342 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:11 am

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Mark_83 wrote:Name the 1 player you want, 1 player you don't want, and the 1 player you think it will actually be.


Player I want: Anyone who can create his own shot (could be someone who drops), I don't trust Barnes offense, and Ingram + Barrett + Quickley can be shut down offensively.

Player I don't want: Maluach who has not proven, just mainly hype

Player I think it will actually be: Queen, fits exactly what Darko wants to do. The claim of his defense is the same as the claim of Maluach having a 3 point shot in tighter space against NBA players.


How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1343 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:12 am

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Tough to say. If maluach ends up being some type of Gorbert and Yang ends up being more of a rasho nesterovic... Well I want Maluach at 9. I didn't include Rasho on the best franchise Cs for a reason :lol:

Really hard for me to evaluate what Yang will be.

Those comparisons work both ways. If they both become solid bigs in the NBA I’d rather take the guy who I can get later. To me, Maluach projects as a rim runner. You’ll never throw it to him for an easy basket unless it’s a dunk, but he can’t go get his own offense. And when you throw it to him you have to worry about him actually catching it.


He did well enough on lobs, I believe he will convert around 90 percent of them in the NBA, that's better than Jak's 10 foot pushshot. Maluach is just that type of athletic rim runner/rim protector we never have on this team, I would really like to have that veritcal spacing option as well as the possibility of a defensive anchor.

Yang is more of a hub type, I do like him.

Just everyone always saying we can get one of these athletic rim runners later, thennnn we never do. Oh we can trade for one, then they are too valuable to be had for anything palatable in a deal. This fanbase has been thinking about how to aquire Capela or Okongwu since they entered the league, is Mal a 7'2 version? I would just take the plunge at 9.

If we drafted Carter at 9 and then grabbed another first for Ochai to get Yang, I would be quite happy with it. Again we always think we can trade back into the late first, and we never do it.


His measurement isn't that athletic.
And we did have Alex Len previously. If you are looking for Valanciunas replacement, then he needs to be much more skilled.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1344 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:14 am

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New deposit, single bet and withdrawal?

Haven't tried to make a bet since I went for the Atlantic division in 2017-2018 for the Raptors at 7-1. Tried to do $7000 and was capped at $270.

Type 9999999 in the bet section and they’ll give you the max you’re allowed to bet.


I'm asking around since I have 0 betting apps on my phone and think the Raps odds are wildly mispriced.

My limit was $81 something…
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1345 » by deeps6x » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:18 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:1. Dallas - Cooper
2. SAS - Harper
3. Philly - Vj
4. Hornets - Tre
5. Utah - Ace/Fears
6. Wash - Fears/Ace
7. NO - Kon
8. Brk - Jak/Demin/Noa
9. Tor - KM
10. PHX - Queen/Asa … although i could see them reaching for beringer


My guess right now...

1. DAL - Flagg
2. SAS - Harper
3. PHI - VJ
4. CHA* - traded to BKN - Ace
5. UTH - Tre
6. WAS - Fears
7. NOP - Kon
8. CHA - Maluach (since the relationship with Williams & the franchise is ruined)
9. TOR* - traded to ATL - Queen
10. PHX - Jak

We trade back to 13 to take one of Bryant, Essengue or Coward and then one of Wolf or Yang at 22


Fingers crossed it goes down this way.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1346 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:23 am

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Indeed wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:Name the 1 player you want, 1 player you don't want, and the 1 player you think it will actually be.


Player I want: Anyone who can create his own shot (could be someone who drops), I don't trust Barnes offense, and Ingram + Barrett + Quickley can be shut down offensively.

Player I don't want: Maluach who has not proven, just mainly hype

Player I think it will actually be: Queen, fits exactly what Darko wants to do. The claim of his defense is the same as the claim of Maluach having a 3 point shot in tighter space against NBA players.


How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed


Because he does not show much skill and playing with the best young player on the team when you are watching the game.
Did he move to the spot quick enough for the block? Nope, it was the good perimeter defense slowed down the opponent and get near the shot blocker.

A 7'2 rim running rim denier is just hype, advanced stats has him with low block rate, low assist rate. If he is at the right place for the ball, he would have a better rebounding rate.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1347 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:29 am

I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1348 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:30 am

WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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He should be. He’s better than both Queen and Maluach.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1349 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:48 am

Indeed wrote:
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Indeed wrote:
Player I want: Anyone who can create his own shot (could be someone who drops), I don't trust Barnes offense, and Ingram + Barrett + Quickley can be shut down offensively.

Player I don't want: Maluach who has not proven, just mainly hype

Player I think it will actually be: Queen, fits exactly what Darko wants to do. The claim of his defense is the same as the claim of Maluach having a 3 point shot in tighter space against NBA players.


How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed


Because he does not show much skill and playing with the best young player on the team when you are watching the game.
Did he move to the spot quick enough for the block? Nope, it was the good perimeter defense slowed down the opponent and get near the shot blocker.

A 7'2 rim running rim denier is just hype, advanced stats has him with low block rate, low assist rate. If he is at the right place for the ball, he would have a better rebounding rate.


I've watched those same games and saw him switch out on the perimeter a lot and also saw plenty of guards just turn around & reset or wings pass it off because you know, 7'2 is noticeable out there. Also check his stats & adv stats on his offensive rebounds, he was one of the best in college
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1350 » by TimeForChange » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:50 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:Name the 1 player you want, 1 player you don't want, and the 1 player you think it will actually be.


Player I want: Anyone who can create his own shot (could be someone who drops), I don't trust Barnes offense, and Ingram + Barrett + Quickley can be shut down offensively.

Player I don't want: Maluach who has not proven, just mainly hype

Player I think it will actually be: Queen, fits exactly what Darko wants to do. The claim of his defense is the same as the claim of Maluach having a 3 point shot in tighter space against NBA players.


How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed

his raw floor is actually pretty low.

hopefully he has an amazing career wherever he is drafted as he seems like a great kid, but he could be the next Hasheem Thabeet, Bol Bol or Mo Bamba.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1351 » by TimeForChange » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:51 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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He should be. He’s better than both Queen and Maluach.

If you want to develop a back up 5, you trade down and draft this kid
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1352 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:52 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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He should be. He’s better than both Queen and Maluach.

If you want to develop a back up 5, you trade down and draft this kid

Unless his foot injuries are lingering he’s a starter in the NBA.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1353 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:54 am

TimeForChange wrote:
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Indeed wrote:
Player I want: Anyone who can create his own shot (could be someone who drops), I don't trust Barnes offense, and Ingram + Barrett + Quickley can be shut down offensively.

Player I don't want: Maluach who has not proven, just mainly hype

Player I think it will actually be: Queen, fits exactly what Darko wants to do. The claim of his defense is the same as the claim of Maluach having a 3 point shot in tighter space against NBA players.


How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed

his raw floor is actually pretty low.

hopefully he has an amazing career wherever he is drafted as he seems like a great kid, but he could be the next Hasheem Thabeet, Bol Bol or Mo Bamba.


I saw all those in college as well, I like Maluach way way more & Thabeet bamba were falmeout candidates from many. Bol Bol too but he did have intrigue. Maluach also went to the best school of the bunch, a/o to UCONN
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1354 » by Grew » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:59 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:He should be. He’s better than both Queen and Maluach.

If you want to develop a back up 5, you trade down and draft this kid

Unless his foot injuries are lingering he’s a starter in the NBA.


I think he's lower because he's kind of a tweener between the big man roles. Is he good enough to be a hub? Is he athletic enough to be a run and jump type big?

With Queen and Mal it's obvious who they are in the NBA.

Sorber might need to drop some weight and lean into being more athletic. No one is giving him the ball on the block to overpower people. He's a little bit old school.

Another interesting option though. Wingspan is ridiculous and he seems to process the game at a good level.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1355 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:02 am

Grew wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:If you want to develop a back up 5, you trade down and draft this kid

Unless his foot injuries are lingering he’s a starter in the NBA.


I think he's lower because he's kind of a tweener between the big man roles. Is he good enough to be a hub? Is he athletic enough to be a run and jump type big?

With Queen and Mal it's obvious who they are in the NBA.

Sorber might need to drop some weight and lean into being more athletic. No one is giving him the ball on the block to overpower people. He's a little bit old school.

Another interesting option though. Wingspan is ridiculous and he seems to process the game at a good level.

I agree, but if it were me, I’d have no problem drafting him to be my long term 5. If the foot is okay.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1356 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:02 am

Ari_Emanuel wrote:I’m glad we didn’t we didn’t trade for Durant. We need to continue being patient and add young cheap talent to our roster.

Hoping we get another 1st rounder and walk away with 2 of Coward, Essengue, Fleming, or Yang.

Assuming Kon or Malauch don’t fall to us.


If we somehow managed to walk away with Coward and Fleming, it was a homerun draft. A+++
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1357 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:10 am

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I assume Coward is moving up draft boards, assuming front offices are thinking like anything like all the best sports analysts. He apparently interviewed incredibly well and with his elite physical profile puts him in a group with a really high probability of being an elite wing or PF.

Consensus might be converging on him having the highest floor in the draft after Cooper.

Per USA Today, the Suns had Coward in for a visit.


Dude is going to be a real guy. Only real negative you can say is the level of competition and age. But he’s gotten better every year, his numbers are amazing, his measurements are amazing, and passes the eye test amazingly

I’d take him at 9 straight up if he may be gone by Atlanta’s pick


Yeah I think at this point if we like Coward, we have to take him at #9. I don't think it makes it past the lottery.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1358 » by MEDIC » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:14 am

WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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I think he's the type.of player down the road could become top 5 in twrms of impact in a re-draft.

Another one of those guys that isn't a sexy pick, but might become one of the best in this draft.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1359 » by grant101 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:17 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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I think he's the type.of player down the road could become top 5 in twrms of impact in a re-draft.

Another one of those guys that isn't a sexy pick, but might become one of the best in this draft.


Foot injuries on big men scare me. Particularly for those that aren’t known for their mobility. I’ll let someone else take that risk
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1360 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:20 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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I think he's the type.of player down the road could become top 5 in twrms of impact in a re-draft.

Another one of those guys that isn't a sexy pick, but might become one of the best in this draft.


If we had to take a C, I'd much rather him than Maluach.
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