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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1361 » by bballsparkin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:20 am

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I wouldn't mind seeing how the team actually meshes when they are healthy. Best scorer on that team didn't even suit up. Do I want to overlap the skillset of the player we are building around? No.

Is CMB the BPA? No. Would it be really annoying to watch a tanking season just to draft rich mans mogbo with the 9th pick? Yes.


I mean, that's your opinion. Sure the fit is bad. But I've read numerous people who view CMB very highly. We shall see. It would be fun laughs reading on here that's for sure.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1362 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:21 am

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How is Maluach purely hype, he played a full college season at DUKE. Our organization saw him live plenty of times. The footage isut there, Just say he's not what want for w/e reason.
Y'all are underestimating functional 7'2, his raw floor would be valuable for us, I'm noteven thinking about the "hype" of what he could be. A 7'2 rim running rim denier is needed


Because he does not show much skill and playing with the best young player on the team when you are watching the game.
Did he move to the spot quick enough for the block? Nope, it was the good perimeter defense slowed down the opponent and get near the shot blocker.

A 7'2 rim running rim denier is just hype, advanced stats has him with low block rate, low assist rate. If he is at the right place for the ball, he would have a better rebounding rate.


I've watched those same games and saw him switch out on the perimeter a lot and also saw plenty of guards just turn around & reset or wings pass it off because you know, 7'2 is noticeable out there. Also check his stats & adv stats on his offensive rebounds, he was one of the best in college


College guards are more looking to pass than taking pull up 3s, which will be different against NBA guards. The team has a lot of length and size to deny passing. You see the game against North Carolina (link below), he got blown by on his first (second overall) defensive possession. He was given out so much space and still get blown by, but his length allows him to contest from behind. The next possession Duke has 3 players in the paint, which shows the defense has more to do with the size and length of the team, instead of a single rim protector that does everything. Down to another 12:40 left on the clock, it was blow by.

As for offensive rebounds, the game I saw has more to do with defense focusing against their first and second option, and that leaves Maluach opens.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1363 » by bballsparkin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:22 am

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djsunyc wrote:nobody will know who we pick. not even shams.

what happens if a team doesn't phone in their selection to the league when their time expires?


bad stuff. has to be.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1364 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:25 am

bballsparkin wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:
djsunyc wrote:nobody will know who we pick. not even shams.

what happens if a team doesn't phone in their selection to the league when their time expires?


bad stuff. has to be.

I’d assume the pick is forfeited.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1365 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:26 am

bballsparkin wrote:
Grew wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing how the team actually meshes when they are healthy. Best scorer on that team didn't even suit up. Do I want to overlap the skillset of the player we are building around? No.

Is CMB the BPA? No. Would it be really annoying to watch a tanking season just to draft rich mans mogbo with the 9th pick? Yes.


I mean, that's your opinion. Sure the fit is bad. But I've read numerous people who view CMB very highly. We shall see. It would be fun laughs reading on here that's for sure.

Taking CMB is fine as long as you’re trading at least 2 other non shooters. Even if he’s the BPA he won’t be able to show it with the lane clogged and no jump shot.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1366 » by XTC » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:30 am

Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....
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Post#1367 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:36 am

XTC wrote:Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....


Pacers will still be a decent team without him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1368 » by Yallbecrazy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:37 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
Grew wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing how the team actually meshes when they are healthy. Best scorer on that team didn't even suit up. Do I want to overlap the skillset of the player we are building around? No.

Is CMB the BPA? No. Would it be really annoying to watch a tanking season just to draft rich mans mogbo with the 9th pick? Yes.


I mean, that's your opinion. Sure the fit is bad. But I've read numerous people who view CMB very highly. We shall see. It would be fun laughs reading on here that's for sure.

Taking CMB is fine as long as you’re trading at least 2 other non shooters. Even if he’s the BPA he won’t be able to show it with the lane clogged and no jump shot.


He did it all year in college.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1369 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:38 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
I mean, that's your opinion. Sure the fit is bad. But I've read numerous people who view CMB very highly. We shall see. It would be fun laughs reading on here that's for sure.

Taking CMB is fine as long as you’re trading at least 2 other non shooters. Even if he’s the BPA he won’t be able to show it with the lane clogged and no jump shot.


He did it all year in college.

Which is definitely not the NBA.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1370 » by Flush » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:38 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
XTC wrote:Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....


Pacers will still be a decent team without him.


I can foresee this being a topic for the rest of next season because if Pacers decide they just want to tank to get a good pick while waiting for Hali to get back to full health people are going to say we traded away a high pick for B.I. and then there are going to be people on the other side of things if Pacers decide to compete and end up in 20 range saying it was decent value
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1371 » by HangTime » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:41 am

Flush wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
XTC wrote:Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....


Pacers will still be a decent team without him.


I can foresee this being a topic for the rest of next season because if Pacers decide they just want to tank to get a good pick while waiting for Hali to get back to full health people are going to say we traded away a high pick for B.I. and then there are going to be people on the other side of things if Pacers decide to compete and end up in 20 range saying it was decent value



It was top 4 protected, and we probably didn't anticipate this Haliburton injury.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1372 » by Tripod » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:42 am

Flush wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
XTC wrote:Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....


Pacers will still be a decent team without him.


I can foresee this being a topic for the rest of next season because if Pacers decide they just want to tank to get a good pick while waiting for Hali to get back to full health people are going to say we traded away a high pick for B.I. and then there are going to be people on the other side of things if Pacers decide to compete and end up in 20 range saying it was decent value

Of course...because there are a lot of idiots out there.

:lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1373 » by Yallbecrazy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:51 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Taking CMB is fine as long as you’re trading at least 2 other non shooters. Even if he’s the BPA he won’t be able to show it with the lane clogged and no jump shot.


He did it all year in college.

Which is definitely not the NBA.


He doesn't have to put up a 6.9 obpm is rookie season in the NBA to be considered worth the #9 pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1374 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:55 am

HangTime wrote:
Flush wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
Pacers will still be a decent team without him.


I can foresee this being a topic for the rest of next season because if Pacers decide they just want to tank to get a good pick while waiting for Hali to get back to full health people are going to say we traded away a high pick for B.I. and then there are going to be people on the other side of things if Pacers decide to compete and end up in 20 range saying it was decent value



It was top 4 protected, and we probably didn't anticipate this Haliburton injury.


We are probably less upset than New Orleans not waiting until the playoffs is over.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1375 » by Grew » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:00 am

bballsparkin wrote:
Grew wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing how the team actually meshes when they are healthy. Best scorer on that team didn't even suit up. Do I want to overlap the skillset of the player we are building around? No.

Is CMB the BPA? No. Would it be really annoying to watch a tanking season just to draft rich mans mogbo with the 9th pick? Yes.


I mean, that's your opinion. Sure the fit is bad. But I've read numerous people who view CMB very highly. We shall see. It would be fun laughs reading on here that's for sure.


BPA is just such an opinion based thing in the first place. Not like Broome is going 2nd overall for being the best college player. So BPA is some amalgam of NBA potential and current production through the lens of whatever organization is looking. So for the raptors, I don't see the justification for an undersized big man who can't shoot and is an average athlete at best, being the BPA.

CMB might be a fine player in a vacuum. I was looking into him last season as a mid first rounder and thought he would be an option at 15-20.

If CMB really was in another tier at our pick, he would be being looked at by the teams ahead of us. He's not getting any traction there. I would love if the teams ahead of us liked him as much as the few posters and analysts that have him top 5. He doesn't fit here.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1376 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:01 am

Flush wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
XTC wrote:Im actually pissed...

Hailiburton is out for the year and we traded the 2026 Pacers pick lmao....


Pacers will still be a decent team without him.


I can foresee this being a topic for the rest of next season because if Pacers decide they just want to tank to get a good pick while waiting for Hali to get back to full health people are going to say we traded away a high pick for B.I. and then there are going to be people on the other side of things if Pacers decide to compete and end up in 20 range saying it was decent value


lol I thought we were going to be done with the whining about Siakam's trade return, but I guess not.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1377 » by bballsparkin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:03 am

Grew wrote:
BPA is just such an opinion based thing in the first place. Not like Broome is going 2nd overall for being the best college player. So BPA is some amalgam of NBA potential and current production through the lens of whatever organization is looking. So for the raptors, I don't see the justification for an undersized big man who can't shoot and is an average athlete at best, being the BPA.

CMB might be a fine player in a vacuum. I was looking into him last season as a mid first rounder and thought he would be an option at 15-20.

If CMB really was in another tier at our pick, he would be being looked at by the teams ahead of us. He's not getting any traction there. I would love if the teams ahead of us liked him as much as the few posters and analysts that have him top 5. He doesn't fit here.


There's definitely a hope his shot develops. If they draft him I'm assuming it's assumed he will develop a shot. It seems very Raptor-esque.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1378 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:04 am

If Jak is there at 9, do you draft him over Bryant, Coward, Essengue, Demin, or Queen?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1379 » by LJKO » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:04 am

Now that the 2025 NBA Season ended the 2026 NBA Season begins now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#1380 » by bballsparkin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:06 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:bad stuff. has to be.

I’d assume the pick is forfeited.


that sounds very bad.

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