Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

Darren · Post #1141 » by **Darren** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:20 am

Something like Klay, Martin, Hardy, a 2nd for Ball and Carter (EXP) could be done.

Archx · Post #1142 » by **Archx** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:22 am

Darren wrote:Kyrie opts in. That means there's a 1-year window. Kyrie will leave next offseason.
Let's not take on Holiday. Just trade for Lonzo Ball. Mavs offseason is done.
By 2026, the Mavs could rebuild completely. That means let's not trade Gafford of PJ.
With so many players on contract year, the Mavs should be competitive coming offseason.
Everyone know the time is now. Only 1-year window is opened.

There is this small thing called salary cap in the NBA in case you forgot (again).

And hell no to Lonzo. Why are you so obsessed with him? He can't play more than 20 games before he goes down for entire season. You already have Kyrie, AD and an incompetent medical staff on the team. You would need to rent a portable hospital for entire season to keep the team alive.

daoneandonly · Post #1143 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:27 am

Archx wrote:
Darren wrote:Kyrie opts in. That means there's a 1-year window. Kyrie will leave next offseason.
Let's not take on Holiday. Just trade for Lonzo Ball. Mavs offseason is done.
By 2026, the Mavs could rebuild completely. That means let's not trade Gafford of PJ.
With so many players on contract year, the Mavs should be competitive coming offseason.
Everyone know the time is now. Only 1-year window is opened.

There is this small thing called salary cap in the NBA in case you forgot (again).

And hell no to Lonzo. Why are you so obsessed with him? He can't play more than 20 games before he goes down for entire season. You already have Kyrie, AD and an incompetent medical staff on the team. You would need to rent a portable hospital for entire season to keep the team alive.

As you mentioned to me, you may be arguing with AI. And I don't mean Allen Iverson

Post #1144 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:25 am

Sweeney left for the Spurs

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Post #1145 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:29 am

G R E Y wrote:Any insights into Sean Sweeney? We just signed him from you guys and he interviewed for a couple of HC positions. Apparently we've been after him for a while.

We can't know who gets the credit, but Mavs coaching staff was able to punch above their roster grade defensively and it was also said Sweeney was in charge of that.
MacMahon reporred many time that Swerney was invested a lot in Luka's defense also.
It's a loss for us and a big win for you guys, take good care of him.

arkuo · Post #1146 » by **arkuo** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:31 am

Mavrelous wrote:Sweeney left for the Spurs

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That's tough. And Vogel doesn't want to be an assistant and is fine with a consultant role just in case a head coaching gig opens up somewhere.

Archx · Post #1147 » by **Archx** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:35 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
Darren wrote:Kyrie opts in. That means there's a 1-year window. Kyrie will leave next offseason.
Let's not take on Holiday. Just trade for Lonzo Ball. Mavs offseason is done.
By 2026, the Mavs could rebuild completely. That means let's not trade Gafford of PJ.
With so many players on contract year, the Mavs should be competitive coming offseason.
Everyone know the time is now. Only 1-year window is opened.

There is this small thing called salary cap in the NBA in case you forgot (again).

And hell no to Lonzo. Why are you so obsessed with him? He can't play more than 20 games before he goes down for entire season. You already have Kyrie, AD and an incompetent medical staff on the team. You would need to rent a portable hospital for entire season to keep the team alive.

As you mentioned to me, you may be arguing with AI. And I don't mean Allen Iverson

Only logical explanation.

kanofwindHK · Post #1148 » by **kanofwindHK** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:36 am

arkuo wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:This should be clear by now. Mavs are not stacking picks. Stacking picks is the rebuilding route. They've made no indication of going with the complete rebuild direction in any news item. Don't go the rebuild fantasy route. The other side of that spectrum is trading Hardy for Giannis, Christie for SGA, Powell for Jokic, Coach K for Kidd and Trump himself to replace Nico. On the topic of fantasy trades that won't happen. I could write a whole essay on how Donald Trump is a better fit here than Nico if there are rumors of him replacing Nico soon after the draft.

The more likely scenario is the Mavs just trade for a PG like Ball (minor trade) and bring back both Gaff and PJ. Their main addition will be Cooper Flagg in the draft. I think they also draft a PG (the next Brunson?).

There is a chance that the Mavs could get involved in a 3 team trade that nets them a PG. In this scenario I think they end up with a better PG than Ball (Sexton? Coby White?) but likely also lose Gafford.

Personally I’m still on board with just waiting until the Trade Deadline. Bring back to whole team and see what trades materialize at the halfway mark.

I think the move that makes the most sense is to start the season with everyone first to see where you're at with Flagg. Then make adjustments as you go along. There is no need to trade Gaff and PJ for pennies on the dollar just for the sake of making a trade. I've read news about Bulls declining an offer from Orlando for Coby White and that included 2 first rounders. If that were true, Mavs are priced out. Might as well just sign Brogdon, CP3 or DLo for the minimum and wait for Kyrie to get back.

If the Bulls are high on Coby White, which reports say they are, and are still re-signing Giddey to a big deal, then letting Lonzo Ball go makes sense. You can't keep everyone.

1) CP3 want to bank to LA to stay with his family more time unless you offer him large money; 2) Dlo not likely to sign on only minimum; 3) For Coby White problem......if Mavs trade Gafford is mainly because his large contract extension, then it is no reason for C.White as his contract extension is a lot higher; 4) Do not try on Lonzo Ball, Lively and AD will be always healthy guy by compare to Lonzo, I do not care how fit Lonzo can be if he is stay healthy to play on court, but his problem is he cannot stay healthy!

kanofwindHK · Post #1149 » by **kanofwindHK** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:38 am

Darren wrote:Kyrie opts in. That means there's a 1-year window. Kyrie will leave next offseason.
Let's not take on Holiday. Just trade for Lonzo Ball. Mavs offseason is done.
By 2026, the Mavs could rebuild completely. That means let's not trade Gafford of PJ.
With so many players on contract year, the Mavs should be competitive coming offseason.
Everyone know the time is now. Only 1-year window is opened.

If Irving opt in, then there will be 2 reason: 1) he is very confidence on his return and believe he can play in high standard to earn a very large money contract; 2) Nico do not trust he can return and not willing to offer him any large money unless he can prove he can play in high standard

kanofwindHK · Post #1150 » by **kanofwindHK** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:40 am

daoneandonly wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Assistant Coach Sean Sweeney will be missed. He has agreed to take the lead assistant coaching job for the Spurs.

I hope going forward we'll have and keep a strong and consistent core of coaches. Our future depends on it.

The ownership and Nico seem to not have much common sense.

As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank

daoneandonly · Post #1151 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:51 am

kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Assistant Coach Sean Sweeney will be missed. He has agreed to take the lead assistant coaching job for the Spurs.

I hope going forward we'll have and keep a strong and consistent core of coaches. Our future depends on it.

The ownership and Nico seem to not have much common sense.

As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank

Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

41Dirk41 · Post #1152 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:52 am

kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Assistant Coach Sean Sweeney will be missed. He has agreed to take the lead assistant coaching job for the Spurs.

I hope going forward we'll have and keep a strong and consistent core of coaches. Our future depends on it.

The ownership and Nico seem to not have much common sense.

As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank

Yes thank.

41Dirk41 · Post #1153 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:53 am

The day Harrison&Kidd will left this organization will be a great day for all of us.

Post #1154 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:58 am

Starting today, teams can negotiate with their FAs, they can't sign a deal until July 1st.

daoneandonly · Post #1155 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:02 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank

Yes thank.

JUst makes so much sense for Dallas. Jalen Johnson with Flagg and Lively gives us the most exciting frontcourt in the league. All young, from Duke, and play both sides. They all have heart unlike AD.

With Tatum and now likely Hali out next year, Atl with AD can go very far.

kanofwindHK · Post #1156 » by **kanofwindHK** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:06 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank

Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Yes, i trust AD, he is currently a top 10 player in NBA, he is the best PF/C in nowaday, just behind jokic and Giannis.
When there is big center to share the workload with AD, you will see the lakers championship version AD.
He can stay healthy when a Big C share the workload
I also trust there will be no better PF mentor than AD that Flagg can learn from.
I trust it is win now mode for 25/26, if mavs can bering a good enough pg/sg to play with still injured irving

Archx · Post #1157 » by **Archx** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:35 pm

kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:No thank

Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Yes, i trust AD, he is currently a top 10 player in NBA, he is the best PF/C in nowaday, just behind jokic and Giannis.
When there is big center to share the workload with AD, you will see the lakers championship version AD.
He can stay healthy when a Big C share the workload
I also trust there will be no better PF mentor than AD that Flagg can learn from.
I trust it is win now mode for 25/26, if mavs can bering a good enough pg/sg to play with still injured irving

Flagg and AD couldn't be more different in their roles and playstyle. And AD got hurt twice in short time with Gafford and Lively playing. You think he'll stay healthy entire season+playoffs without Gafford on the team? That's a very good dream to have.

Darren · Post #1158 » by **Darren** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:36 pm

Houston Rockets receives: Max Christie, Dwight Powell, Kevin Durant
Dallas Mavericks receives: Dillon Brooks, Reed Sheppard
Phoenix Suns receives: Jalen Green, Klay Thompson, Daniel Gafford, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy, #10 pick

What if the Mavs enter the trade as 3rd team. Pheonix gets more building blocks for pressing positions. Houston pays less 2nd round pick. Dallas gets better defense and point guard of the future in Sheppard. It seems to make sense if you believe the former 3rd pick in the draft is a real deal.

daoneandonly · Post #1159 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:50 pm

Archx wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Yes, i trust AD, he is currently a top 10 player in NBA, he is the best PF/C in nowaday, just behind jokic and Giannis.
When there is big center to share the workload with AD, you will see the lakers championship version AD.
He can stay healthy when a Big C share the workload
I also trust there will be no better PF mentor than AD that Flagg can learn from.
I trust it is win now mode for 25/26, if mavs can bering a good enough pg/sg to play with still injured irving

Flagg and AD couldn't be more different in their roles and playstyle. And AD got hurt twice in short time with Gafford and Lively playing. You think he'll stay healthy entire season+playoffs without Gafford on the team? That's a very good dream to have.

Exactly, AD has never been reliable, such a soft diva. Not to mention his one playoff success dominance was in a freakin bubble

kanofwindHK · Post #1160 » by **kanofwindHK** » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:11 pm

Archx wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Yes, i trust AD, he is currently a top 10 player in NBA, he is the best PF/C in nowaday, just behind jokic and Giannis.
When there is big center to share the workload with AD, you will see the lakers championship version AD.
He can stay healthy when a Big C share the workload
I also trust there will be no better PF mentor than AD that Flagg can learn from.
I trust it is win now mode for 25/26, if mavs can bering a good enough pg/sg to play with still injured irving

Flagg and AD couldn't be more different in their roles and playstyle. And AD got hurt twice in short time with Gafford and Lively playing. You think he'll stay healthy entire season+playoffs without Gafford on the team? That's a very good dream to have.

No matter you like or not, AD will stay in mavs in 25/26, and will play with flagg to become the best PF/SF and C/PF combination in NBA