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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#121 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:10 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:More likely Riley trades wiggins and 20 for derozan with kd of the table. I think the goal is to give herro some offensive help.

The only thing that makes sense for DeRozan is trading Rozier for him. They can have the 20th pick but I would want multiple second rd picks and a 2027 1st in return.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#122 » by Vertical Limit » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:25 am

I expect some sort of move to be done the next 2 weeks by the Heat.

We had the tenth highest payroll in the league this past season at 176 million. And right now without re-signing davion to his QO, or offering any extensions, or making any cuts, just rolling the same roster back, we would remain at # 10 with 176.5 million in salaries.

And we arent going to do **** with this roster.

The first thing we will do is offer Davion his QO.

Then I imagine with the expirings we have to offer, which is Robinson, Rozier, Kevin Love, Highsmith, we will see what teams that are in salary cap hell contacts us to see if we can get picks in return.

If not i imagine Rozier and Robinson will get into contract buyout talks. Love and highsmith stays on the roster.

No extensions to be offered to Herro, Highsmith or Jovic.. they stay as is. If they leave at 2026 then so be it. Herro is a free agent in 2027 so there really is no reason at all to offer an extension. In 2027 if hes still around (hopefully not) they can have those negotiation with his agent at that time.

Wiggins im confident we can get a pick and expiring for.. maybe not a full 29 million expiring, though its not impossible..

Andersen, his contract cant be that difficult to get an expiring..
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#123 » by MartyConlonJr » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:50 am

Vertical Limit wrote:Andersen, his contract cant be that difficult to get an expiring..


Just to be clear, Anderson's contract is expiring. We don't have to do anything with it.

No money guaranteed in 2026/27, HoopsHype has learned. Guarantee increases to full if not waived by June 28, 2026.

https://hoopshype.com/player/kyle-anderson/salary/
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#124 » by NightWatch » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:09 am

Vertical Limit wrote:I expect some sort of move to be done the next 2 weeks by the Heat.

We had the tenth highest payroll in the league this past season at 176 million. And right now without re-signing davion to his QO, or offering any extensions, or making any cuts, just rolling the same roster back, we would remain at # 10 with 176.5 million in salaries.

And we arent going to do **** with this roster.

The first thing we will do is offer Davion his QO.

Then I imagine with the expirings we have to offer, which is Robinson, Rozier, Kevin Love, Highsmith, we will see what teams that are in salary cap hell contacts us to see if we can get picks in return.

If not i imagine Rozier and Robinson will get into contract buyout talks. Love and highsmith stays on the roster.

No extensions to be offered to Herro, Highsmith or Jovic.. they stay as is. If they leave at 2026 then so be it. Herro is a free agent in 2027 so there really is no reason at all to offer an extension. In 2027 if hes still around (hopefully not) they can have those negotiation with his agent at that time.

Wiggins im confident we can get a pick and expiring for.. maybe not a full 29 million expiring, though its not impossible..

Andersen, his contract cant be that difficult to get an expiring..



do you trust Davion? I feel like he was only playing this good because of contract year once he signed a new contract he might be nowhere to be seen.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#125 » by contract » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:57 am

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Vertical Limit wrote:I expect some sort of move to be done the next 2 weeks by the Heat.

We had the tenth highest payroll in the league this past season at 176 million. And right now without re-signing davion to his QO, or offering any extensions, or making any cuts, just rolling the same roster back, we would remain at # 10 with 176.5 million in salaries.

And we arent going to do **** with this roster.

The first thing we will do is offer Davion his QO.

Then I imagine with the expirings we have to offer, which is Robinson, Rozier, Kevin Love, Highsmith, we will see what teams that are in salary cap hell contacts us to see if we can get picks in return.

If not i imagine Rozier and Robinson will get into contract buyout talks. Love and highsmith stays on the roster.

No extensions to be offered to Herro, Highsmith or Jovic.. they stay as is. If they leave at 2026 then so be it. Herro is a free agent in 2027 so there really is no reason at all to offer an extension. In 2027 if hes still around (hopefully not) they can have those negotiation with his agent at that time.

Wiggins im confident we can get a pick and expiring for.. maybe not a full 29 million expiring, though its not impossible..

Andersen, his contract cant be that difficult to get an expiring..



do you trust Davion? I feel like he was only playing this good because of contract year once he signed a new contract he might be nowhere to be seen.

Mitchell only played well after he got here (~ 34 games total including the playoffs). He started the year looking like he always has. We may be about to overpay for a hot streak.

IMO what he's earning now (~ $6.5 mil) is fair value. $19 million would be Duncan Robinson level insanity.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#126 » by twix2500 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:42 am

contract wrote:
NightWatch wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:I expect some sort of move to be done the next 2 weeks by the Heat.

We had the tenth highest payroll in the league this past season at 176 million. And right now without re-signing davion to his QO, or offering any extensions, or making any cuts, just rolling the same roster back, we would remain at # 10 with 176.5 million in salaries.

And we arent going to do **** with this roster.

The first thing we will do is offer Davion his QO.

Then I imagine with the expirings we have to offer, which is Robinson, Rozier, Kevin Love, Highsmith, we will see what teams that are in salary cap hell contacts us to see if we can get picks in return.

If not i imagine Rozier and Robinson will get into contract buyout talks. Love and highsmith stays on the roster.

No extensions to be offered to Herro, Highsmith or Jovic.. they stay as is. If they leave at 2026 then so be it. Herro is a free agent in 2027 so there really is no reason at all to offer an extension. In 2027 if hes still around (hopefully not) they can have those negotiation with his agent at that time.

Wiggins im confident we can get a pick and expiring for.. maybe not a full 29 million expiring, though its not impossible..

Andersen, his contract cant be that difficult to get an expiring..



do you trust Davion? I feel like he was only playing this good because of contract year once he signed a new contract he might be nowhere to be seen.

Mitchell only played well after he got here (~ 34 games total including the playoffs). He started the year looking like he always has. We may be about to overpay for a hot streak.

IMO what he's earning now (~ $6.5 mil) is fair value. $19 million would be Duncan Robinson level insanity.
Whats a 19 mill dollar per player talent look like?

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#127 » by contract » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:06 am

twix2500 wrote:
contract wrote:
NightWatch wrote:

do you trust Davion? I feel like he was only playing this good because of contract year once he signed a new contract he might be nowhere to be seen.

Mitchell only played well after he got here (~ 34 games total including the playoffs). He started the year looking like he always has. We may be about to overpay for a hot streak.

IMO what he's earning now (~ $6.5 mil) is fair value. $19 million would be Duncan Robinson level insanity.
Whats a 19 mill dollar per player talent look like?

Well for starters they perform before the all star break. Take a look at his career pre/post all star break numbers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchda01/splits/

It's like it takes him 2/3 of the season to get going.

But to answer your question more directly, they play appreciably better than guys you can sign for less.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#128 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:55 am

why is this on a heat channel :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#129 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:11 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t see many homes for Wiggins

Lakers for: Vincent, Hachimura, 1st

Clippers for: Bogdonovic, DJJ, 1st


That’s pretty much it. I’ve looked at all teams depth charts. If someone can find a home for him let me know what other team makes sense. Please don’t say the Kings for DeRozan.


Unfortunately this is beyond wishful thinking. The Lakers greatest pressing need is a center which Wiggins is not. Also no team will even consider trading for Wiggins until he shows actual value on the court. Then at that point Pat will try to keep him and thus the circle of inaction from our front office is complete. The Lakers are going after a starting Center.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#130 » by Hoops3355 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:15 pm

HeatIn5 wrote:\

Take Harper 2, Kneuppel/Bailey 5 (or trade down for more assets), BPA at 38



Kneuppel @5 is so crazy to me. I saw that on a bunch of mocks too. After watching him play I thought he was a second rounder at best. Looks so slow and isn't physically that special.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#131 » by unowen85 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:17 pm

With Hali down, Herro is a lock to another All Star game if he doesn’t get injured and maintains last year’s production.
For a long time it gave me nightmares,witnessing an injustice like that.It’s a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be.I can still hear them taunting him, Silly Rabbit tricks are for kids.I mean why couldn’t they just give him some cereal?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#132 » by fincane30 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:33 pm

unowen85 wrote:With Hali down, Herro is a lock to another All Star game if he doesn’t get injured and maintains last year’s production.


Yeah Hali, Dame and Tatum. Three wings/guards who would be favorites over him to get a spot when healthy.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#133 » by marson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:36 pm

unowen85 wrote:With Hali down, Herro is a lock to another All Star game if he doesn’t get injured and maintains last year’s production.


Also with a full offseason with Ware, Bam is poised to boost his production and make the All-Star team next year.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#134 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:37 pm

K N U C K L E S wrote:Aren't the Heat in the shape they're in right now because being in the East has dulled Riley's senses? He would still be making great deals if the Heat were in the West wouldn't he? The Heat have been great at taking advantage of being in the weaker conference. There's no way in hell that they go to 7 finals in 16 years out of the West with the rosters they've had the last 20 years.

Some people in here are starting to act like entitled Lakers fans. It's been 25 years since the Dolphins have won a playoff game, but it's only been 2 seasons since the last time the Heat were in the finals. They were due for a rebuilding cycle. But yes, what I said in my first paragraph is gonna make the rebuild much worse than it should be.


No, he wouldn’t be doing anything in the West either. He’s washed up and delusional
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#135 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:10 pm

We should have a resolution on the direction of this team in the next 2 weeks, the draft is here Wednesday then we’re right into free agency on the 1st. Fuxk Pat Riley
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#136 » by unowen85 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:14 pm

marson wrote:
unowen85 wrote:With Hali down, Herro is a lock to another All Star game if he doesn’t get injured and maintains last year’s production.


Also with a full offseason with Ware, Bam is poised to boost his production and make the All-Star team next year.


Although he’s never done it before in his career, I think he can hit 20/10 next year. Perhaps even get on All-NBA third team.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#137 » by VaDe255 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:26 pm

fincane30 wrote:
unowen85 wrote:With Hali down, Herro is a lock to another All Star game if he doesn’t get injured and maintains last year’s production.


Yeah Hali, Dame and Tatum. Three wings/guards who would be favorites over him to get a spot when healthy.


He might even make All NBA if there is enough team success, if this team gets like 4-6 seed.
That's another reason why I think they'll just max him asap, if they truely believe in him, otherwise you're end up in a weird situation where he might be eligible for the supermax.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#138 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:29 pm

Free agency is actually the 6th, don’t know why I thought it was the 1st
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#139 » by SoFlaKingReal » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:34 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Free agency is actually the 6th, don’t know why I thought it was the 1st


The first is when deals can be agreed to. The sixth is when signings can be made official.
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Post#140 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:38 pm

As it currently stands looking at the East next year, Cavs, Knicks, Magic, and Pistons for sure finish ahead of us.

Health permitting the Sixers will as well I would say if Embiid isn’t washed.

That likely puts us in the tier with the Celtics (no Tatum and apparently trading Jrue and KP), Pacers (no Hali obviously), and the Bucks (no Dame). I could see the Hawks and Raptors fighting their way up as well.

We’re likely a play in team as it stands at best but there’s still plenty of changes to be made around the league (we probably won’t make any worthwhile clearly) but we’d be sitting pretty damn good with KD on the roster right now.
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