Dwight says Jordan 48 inch vertical claim is a lie

[MrTribbiani]

Dwight's comment is stupid. Jordan's head would be at the rim at 42". Another six inches would just have him at the top of the box, which is two feet tall.

The hell is he even saying? And it's not like Dwight was maxing his vert in-game either.

He needs to sit down and STFU.

One could only wish for that guy to sit down and STFU.

People have the right to criticize Jordan and/or claims about Jordan that are either BS or haven't been proven.

[tsherkin]

Dwight's comment is stupid. Jordan's head would be at the rim at 42". Another six inches would just have him at the top of the box, which is two feet tall.

The hell is he even saying? And it's not like Dwight was maxing his vert in-game either.

He needs to sit down and STFU.

One could only wish for that guy to sit down and STFU.

People have the right to criticize Jordan and/or claims about Jordan that are either BS or haven't been proven.

If it's entirely a way to try and remain relevant, and it's kind of half-cocked to begin with, I'm disinclined to agree. It's been over two decades since he retired, and Dwight's what? Annoyed that Jordan's vert gets more publicity than he does, while failing to understand with/without ball and max vert versus common usage in-game?

[MrTribbiani]

One could only wish for that guy to sit down and STFU.

People have the right to criticize Jordan and/or claims about Jordan that are either BS or haven't been proven.

If it's entirely a way to try and remain relevant, and it's kind of half-cocked to begin with, I'm disinclined to agree. It's been over two decades since he retired, and Dwight's what? Annoyed that Jordan's vert gets more publicity than he does, while failing to understand with/without ball and max vert versus common usage in-game?

The claim that Jordan's vertical was 48 inches has never been proven. There's nothing wrong with Dwight drawing attention to that.

Insecure Jordan jockers need to get over themselves.

[tsherkin]

The claim that Jordan's vertical was 48 inches has never been proven. There's nothing wrong with Dwight drawing attention to that.

Insecure Jordan jockers need to get over themselves.

So, turning this into a pejorative for other posters isn't sensible.

The question has to come up as to why Dwight's bothering, knowing full well what he's getting into by doing it. We all know that Jordan's max vert couldn't really have been less than 42" based on in-game footage and there's a bunch to suggest it was higher than that, so it's not like it's an unreasonable claim. This means Dwight's jumping on for a sound byte and to try to keep his name out there, which isn't really legitimate at all.

That's the problem.

[MrTribbiani]

The claim that Jordan's vertical was 48 inches has never been proven. There's nothing wrong with Dwight drawing attention to that.

Insecure Jordan jockers need to get over themselves.

So, turning this into a pejorative for other posters isn't sensible.

The question has to come up as to why Dwight's bothering, knowing full well what he's getting into by doing it. We all know that Jordan's max vert couldn't really have been less than 42" based on in-game footage and there's a bunch to suggest it was higher than that, so it's not like it's an unreasonable claim. This means Dwight's jumping on for a sound byte and to try to keep his name out there, which isn't really legitimate at all.

That's the problem.

Dwight did nothing wrong by bringing this up. It ain't his fault that insecure Jordan jockers are in their feelings over this

If Jordan's vertical was really 48 inches (back in his prime) there would be some footage of his head cleanly over the rim. However, that doesn't exist.

[Wallace_Wallace]

One could only wish for that guy to sit down and STFU.

People have the right to criticize Jordan and/or claims about Jordan that are either BS or haven't been proven.

If it's entirely a way to try and remain relevant, and it's kind of half-cocked to begin with, I'm disinclined to agree. It's been over two decades since he retired, and Dwight's what? Annoyed that Jordan's vert gets more publicity than he does, while failing to understand with/without ball and max vert versus common usage in-game?

The whole interview was over 2 hours long, on one of the most popular podcast in the world besides Rogan's. So he didn't just walk up to a camera and said one thing (MJ's vertical is not real), the conversation just happen to flow that way. It also talked about a lot of other topics as well.

Spoiler:

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[Jcool0]

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[falcolombardi]

It always felt unlkely, at least in real play

[falcolombardi]

The claim that Jordan's vertical was 48 inches has never been proven. There's nothing wrong with Dwight drawing attention to that.

Insecure Jordan jockers need to get over themselves.

So, turning this into a pejorative for other posters isn't sensible.

The question has to come up as to why Dwight's bothering, knowing full well what he's getting into by doing it. We all know that Jordan's max vert couldn't really have been less than 42" based on in-game footage and there's a bunch to suggest it was higher than that, so it's not like it's an unreasonable claim. This means Dwight's jumping on for a sound byte and to try to keep his name out there, which isn't really legitimate at all.

That's the problem.

That seems like a huge stretc we over analize every opinion or though a nba player says like they are politicians making well calculated statements

And not just people giving opinions or off the cuff thoughts in a conversation (in hours long podcasts conversations, at that)

Imagine if you and me had a 2 hours long convo about basketball and then had fans of the player discussed handpicking one or two comments to grt mad about

[tsherkin]

People have the right to criticize Jordan and/or claims about Jordan that are either BS or haven't been proven.

If it's entirely a way to try and remain relevant, and it's kind of half-cocked to begin with, I'm disinclined to agree. It's been over two decades since he retired, and Dwight's what? Annoyed that Jordan's vert gets more publicity than he does, while failing to understand with/without ball and max vert versus common usage in-game?

The whole interview was over 2 hours long, on one of the most popular podcast in the world besides Rogan's. So he didn't just walk up to a camera and said one thing (MJ's vertical is not real), the conversation just happen to flow that way. It also talked about a lot of other topics as well.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=PBDPodcast

So, it's a whole interview of him saying dumb things.

So with the vertical leap. Dwight went out of his way to say some exaggerated nonsense that doesn't really make sense. "No way he had a 48-inch vertical" comes from nowhere as well. There wasn't the same proliferation of videos to fully explore his max vert, for example, and the dunk contest didn't need to push the envelope enough for that to really come out anyway. So there's no real foundation to what he's saying.

Jordan had been retired for a year the last time before Dwight was even drafted. All he knows is Hardwood Classics and reruns of Old Jordan in Washington. His opinion isn't really worth more than your average YouTube troll, and he went on and on about this, it wasn't just "the conversation just happen(ed) to flow that way." He lingered on it in his disbelief and his willingness to pop off about it.

[SkyBill40]

You missed my entire point. Just because Mike Powell long-jumped 29’4” (equivalent to a max vertical) doesn’t mean he jumps that far on every jump or in any other jump in his entire life. It was a one time max jump. That’s what they measure when they measure verts. Also, when you dunk - you’re just jumping high enough to throw it down. When you’re trying to vert - you’re jumping as high as you possibly can without a basketball in your hand to get measured. It’s a completely different thing. Why do people have a hard time comprehending the difference? It’s like watching Mike Powell jump 27’ or 28’ all the time and doubting he ever jumped 29’4” because you didn’t see him max out.

I didn't miss any point: Your point has no mathematical validation. And I don't need or find your trying to explaining, in a basketball forum no less, of how a max vertical leap is measured. I'm not some neophyte to the game or the background of how certain aspects are measured.

There's no difficulty comprehending anything here; If anyone has difficulty comprehending and simply accepting the math for what it is, it's you. The math doesn't math, my dude. That's as plain and simple as it gets.

You’re clueless bro. It’s like claiming a pitcher whose fastball was clocked at a top speed of 102 MPH in a game can’t throw 105 MPH during a workout once in his life because you’ve never witnessed it in a game. Let me ask you a question: If player A is measured with a personal best 48” vert at a draft combine but never matches it again or even reaches 42” or 43” in practice or a game - what’s his vertical?

Not clueless at all. Quit deflecting and resorting to logical fallacies. Do the damned math. It's not hard. And what's funniest about your dissention to facts is something you just stated: If a player is MEASURED with a personal best... there'd be PROOF they were able to attain that even if once. Jordan doesn't have that in ANY scenario and the math isn't mathing. He was a fantastic player and one of the greatest ever; I'm a Jordan fan, too. But this nonsense you're pushing is just that.

[Liam_Gallagher]

Almost nobody has a 40 inch verticle. Maybe guys like Vince, David Thompson, Shaedon Sharpe and Gerald Green.

Most people don't realize how high that is.

[SkyBill40]

Almost nobody has a 40 inch verticle. Maybe guys like Vince, David Thompson, Shaedon Sharpe and Gerald Green.

Most people don't realize how high that is.

Right. And we're talking another EIGHT inches on top of that. Not saying it's impossible... but exceedingly rare and if there were truth behind it, there'd be no issue in finding the validation for claims surrounding it.

[og15]

Almost nobody has a 40 inch verticle. Maybe guys like Vince, David Thompson, Shaedon Sharpe and Gerald Green.

Most people don't realize how high that is.

Did you mean to write 48 or 40?

[Liam_Gallagher]

Almost nobody has a 40 inch verticle. Maybe guys like Vince, David Thompson, Shaedon Sharpe and Gerald Green.

Most people don't realize how high that is.

Did you mean to write 48 or 40?

40. It's harder than you'd think.

[dhsilv2]

It could be exaggerated, but honestly it doesn't even really matter, all we need to know is that he had a really high vertical, the exact specific number is truly not that relevant.

This...whatever it was, he worked perfectly for his body and that's all that matters.

[Jailblazers7]

The 48 inch number was just Tim Grover making things up to sell his workout plan. Just some OG Drew Hanlen style grifting.

[Hair Jordan]

Watch the ally oop dunk that Ennis Whatley threw to Jordan against the Bucks in the 2nd game of Jordan’s career. Tell me he’s not close to a 48” vert on that particular dunk.

[benson13]

A 48" vertical would have had Jordan's eyes at rim level. Great, he possibly didn't have the vertical leap we always heard he had. MJ was an incredible athlete, but I'm not convinced I'd put him above LeBron or Shaq in terms of physical tools.

Gerald Green and James White likely had higher verticals than MJ. Who cares? This is such a pointless dig by Dwight over something Jordan wasn't actually responsible for.

[og15]

Almost nobody has a 40 inch verticle. Maybe guys like Vince, David Thompson, Shaedon Sharpe and Gerald Green.

Most people don't realize how high that is.

Did you mean to write 48 or 40?

40. It's harder than you'd think.

I don't think it's easy at all, trust me, I just was surprised at almost nobody, but maybe I took that to be more exclusive than you intended.

48 inches in the other hand is truly, "almost nobody".