KD Traded for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 & 5 2nds

[schnakenpopanz]

It will be amazing to see how Ishbia will try to sugarcoat this one.
But hey 28 GMs would like to be in our place right?
And he promised multiple not one championships.
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[BobbieL]

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Again! This is why there have been reports of interest from Phoenix having interest in Claxton from Brooklyn in a three team trade before KD screwed things up for them and nixed the deal.

It's because Ckaxton is elite defensively, is elite at rim protection and recovery. He gas elite Mobility and switchability, and has impressive ballhandling abilities and can initiate the break going coast to coast.


He's also on a 25 million descending scale contract making him cost effective for a borderline all defensive starting caliber center. And doing a trade back scenario with Brooklyn would allow Phoenix to turn one high pick into multiple 1sts while addressing their starting center needs with Claxton and backup 4/5 with Clowney.


Turning the 10th pick into multiple cost controlled young athletic talents that can fill out our roster and address multiple needs whilst also helping us reduce payroll and generate some dap flexibility too. Doing this just makes too much sense. And we can then pick from something like the........................

19- Danny Wolf. PF
26- Walter Clayton. PG
29- Adou Thiero. SF
52- Vlad Goldin. C
59- Kobe Sanders. SG

JGreen/ Booker/ Brooks/ FA / Claxton.
Clayton/ FA / Dunn/ Clowney/ Ighodaro.
Gillespie / Sanders/ Thiero/ Wolf/ Goldin.

Claxton sucks !!!!!!!!!!! Stop it

Suns can't trade Green for an average player to fill a position. I get the Thunder traded Giddey for Caruso but 1) Presti is a very good GM 2) Giddey was going to get a pay check and Caruso fit the team

The Suns need talent and Green is very talented. Don't quit on him yet for Nic Claxton

Richards is on the roster at Center
Use O"Neale or Allen to get a Center and Power Forward
draft somebody
veteran minimum if need be
Just don't be stupid with Green - he is the upside potential you want from a Durant trade

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The three big deals azzhatMat has made have been to get rid of someone. KD, Ayton, Paul. Four if you count Okogie. A complete illusion that we were acquiring needed players. Dude will defend this deal like the huckster he is.

And wait, there is more to come. We have the same gaping holes as we did pre trade.

Edit… I failed to mention the ONE big deal (getting KD) that was the tail chasing catalyst. Wishbia has solidified himself as the Grand Wizard of Whiffing in the NBA.

I applaud Ishbia for taking the L on the KD trade, recognizing he screwed up. Surely he will not say so publicly, but had he waited very much longer in the hopes of recouping the loss, even this pretty mediocre offer might not have been there.

Recognizing mistakes and mitigating the damage is an important first step to getting wise. I appreciate that we were able to recoup some value from KD.

FWIW, Jalen provides some things this team desperately needs - athleticism, penetration and upside. Unfortunate that he plays the wrong position, but I'm high on him.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

FWIW, our current roster, assuming Cody Martin is released:

PG -
SG - Booker, Green, Beal, Allen
SF - Brooks, Dunn, O'Neale
PF -
C - Richards, Ighodaro

3 scoring shooting guards, 1 true shooting guard, 3 3-and-D small forwards, 2 undersized centers.

To that we'll add a #10 pick and three second rounders.

In the '26 draft, we'll get the worst of PHX/WAS/MEM/CHA. Guess we'll just have to hope Memphis joins us at the bottom of the standings next year.

[Biff]

It will be amazing to see how Ishbia will try to sugarcoat this one.
But hey 28 GMs would like to be in our place right?
And he promised multiple not one championships.
****

Every other team in the league would without question trade Mikal, Cam, 4 unprotected 1sts for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, the 10th pick in a mediocre draft and 5 2nd rounders. That's a damn steal and you say yes 11/10.

[BobbieL]

FWIW, our current roster, assuming Cody Martin is released:

PG -
SG - Booker, Green, Beal, Allen
SF - Brooks, Dunn, O'Neale
PF -
C - Richards, Ighodaro

3 scoring shooting guards, 1 true shooting guard, 3 3-and-D small forwards, 2 undersized centers.

To that we'll add a #10 pick and three second rounders.

In the '26 draft, we'll get the worst of PHX/WAS/MEM/CHA. Guess we'll just have to hope Memphis joins us at the bottom of the standings next year.

But to the above, Suns have to quit doing stupid things. The above is not ideal but doing stuff to do stuff isn't ideal either

I know have been waiting on Durant but now its Bradley Beal - -what does he do with him. I don't see many good options unless Beal is willing to move but who is taking that contract.

I saw one three team deal

Celtics; Beal
Nets: Porz, Allen and some other guy from the Celtics plus a pick from Boston and a pick from the Suns

Suns: Jrue, Claxton and Tillman

I didn't hate it - just don't think the Celtics do it unless they truly want to get below the apron levels

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

FWIW, our current roster, assuming Cody Martin is released:

PG -
SG - Booker, Green, Beal, Allen
SF - Brooks, Dunn, O'Neale
PF -
C - Richards, Ighodaro

3 scoring shooting guards, 1 true shooting guard, 3 3-and-D small forwards, 2 undersized centers.

To that we'll add a #10 pick and three second rounders.

In the '26 draft, we'll get the worst of PHX/WAS/MEM/CHA. Guess we'll just have to hope Memphis joins us at the bottom of the standings next year.

But to the above, Suns have to quit doing stupid things. The above is not ideal but doing stuff to do stuff isn't ideal either

I know have been waiting on Durant but now its Bradley Beal - -what does he do with him. I don't see many good options unless Beal is willing to move but who is taking that contract.

I saw one three team deal

Celtics; Beal
Nets: Porz, Allen and some other guy from the Celtics plus a pick from Boston and a pick from the Suns

Suns: Jrue, Claxton and Tillman

I didn't hate it - just don't think the Celtics do it unless they truly want to get below the apron levels

This would be such a great deal for us. Claxton>>>Richards, Tillman>>>Oso, Jrue=icing on the cake. I'd send all those seconds (and a bouquet) to BKN.

[BobbieL]

FWIW, our current roster, assuming Cody Martin is released:

PG -
SG - Booker, Green, Beal, Allen
SF - Brooks, Dunn, O'Neale
PF -
C - Richards, Ighodaro

3 scoring shooting guards, 1 true shooting guard, 3 3-and-D small forwards, 2 undersized centers.

To that we'll add a #10 pick and three second rounders.

In the '26 draft, we'll get the worst of PHX/WAS/MEM/CHA. Guess we'll just have to hope Memphis joins us at the bottom of the standings next year.

But to the above, Suns have to quit doing stupid things. The above is not ideal but doing stuff to do stuff isn't ideal either

I know have been waiting on Durant but now its Bradley Beal - -what does he do with him. I don't see many good options unless Beal is willing to move but who is taking that contract.

I saw one three team deal

Celtics; Beal
Nets: Porz, Allen and some other guy from the Celtics plus a pick from Boston and a pick from the Suns

Suns: Jrue, Claxton and Tillman

I didn't hate it - just don't think the Celtics do it unless they truly want to get below the apron levels

This would be such a great deal for us. Claxton>>>Richards, Tillman>>>Oso, Jrue=icing on the cake. I'd send all those seconds (and a bouquet) to BKN.

Which is probably why its not going to happen as I am sure the Celtics can trade Jrue and still get more back than Beal.

[Slim Charless]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

We're gonna suck with or without Beal. No reason to attach anything to get rid of him. Hope Green works out but let's just say I ain't holding my breath. He'll get all the opportunity he needs next to Booker.

Ok, I'll ask you 2 since both of you know your prospects.

Maluach or Queen at #10? Or should we try for 1 of the Euro PGs.....

[Waylay13]

I was not a fan of picking up Durant, I thought we overpaid for him. I am not as concerned with this trade. we are getting younger which is something that I felt was a problem these last couple years. Also it is important to realize that this trade isnt taking place till July 6th so there maybe some other things end up happening. So dont get to set on 10th pick or the 29th something maybe in the works and we wont know about it.

[bwgood77]

I would keep green because we will get back little if we trade him.

Green
Booker
Brooks
Dunn
Richards

Trade Allen or Oneale and our later pick for a Center.

So our forwards are Brooks & Dunn. Not bad.

Some of my favorites

"Boot Scootin' Boogie"
"Hard Workin' Man"/Men - Let's hope they live up to the title of this song
"My Maria" - I expect there will be a lot of Maria's to choose from in Phoenix
"Neon Moon" - Let's hope they save this for the off season

There are several Centers and PF's available in this draft - are they any good. How about Carter Bryant from U of A

I was good to just move on with KD but hopefully we can get a good one at 10 and Green can justify his 2nd pick in the 2021 draft.

I just wonder if Brooks and Book will continue the Friday Night fights in the Suns Locker Room.

I love Carter Bryant but I don't know if he will be a star. He is athletic, can shoot, defend, etc. I hear a lot of teams like him. We really don't need a wing but I guess we shouldn't be worried about positions at this point since we are probably on the verge of a full rebuild.

Tankathon has us mocked to pick C Derik Queen out of Maryland. His #s look pretty good, especially for a freshman. I was watching Simmons and Russillo last night and they were talking a lot about about the Duke C, Maluah, who is projected to go at 9, who is 7'2, but his #s as a freshman are not nearly as good. He is a little younger, but I don't know if he is more hyped because of his measurables or because he went to Duke or what.

You can see their #s here...Carter Bryant projected 11th. https://tankathon.com/mock_draft

[Djedefre]

If we go big, Maxime is the way to go

[BobbieL]

If we go big, Maxime is the way to go

Get the best big that fits what Ott wants to do - hopefully that player is there at 10. And not a Shooting Guard or Small Forward as the best player available

[BobbieL]

I was not a fan of picking up Durant, I thought we overpaid for him. I am not as concerned with this trade. we are getting younger which is something that I felt was a problem these last couple years. Also it is important to realize that this trade isnt taking place till July 6th so there maybe some other things end up happening. So dont get to set on 10th pick or the 29th something maybe in the works and we wont know about it.

As for the trade - I am not opposed to trading Green unless its another "sell low" trade just to not duplicate at SG. Suns cannot be giving up talent just to "fill a need"

And like the Ayton/Toumani trade - they sold low
So if you trade Green - it better be a damn slam dunk that every single person on the planet says "yes, thats a good trade"

[Sunlight]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

If the Suns are going to find a decent frontcourt then Booker has to be traded for picks. There is no other option if they ever want to succeed. Booker turns 35, the earliest the Suns can reach a playoff spot. I can't remember ever seeing such a catastrophic situation in the NBA.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

We're gonna suck with or without Beal. No reason to attach anything to get rid of him. Hope Green works out but let's just say I ain't holding my breath. He'll get all the opportunity he needs next to Booker.

Ok, I'll ask you 2 since both of you know your prospects.

Maluach or Queen at #10? Or should we try for 1 of the Euro PGs.....

Out of those two if only picking between them Specifically, I'm choosing Maluach. He's a more reliable defensive presence with elite measurables and physical nature.

Sure Queen is more versatile, but he's also not as good of a defender, and at only 6'9 with a 7'0 wingspan, he'll be severely limited at the next level and honestly more of a WCJr with worse rim protection/ defense.

Honestly, my preference would be to trade down and pick up more picks and target either Danny Wolf or Maxime Raynaud and then use one of our other picks on Kalkbrenner or Zisarky ( 7'3 physical aussie with a 7'4 wingspan and a 9'6 standing reach).

Or even Vlad Goldin or Hunter Dickinson in the 50s. Both are 7'1 265 lbs and physical bigs. Goldin kore of a Zubac, and Dickinson more if a more fluid, quicker Nurkic.

But honestly, I wouldn'tt take either of Queenor Sorber as they're both undersized at 6'9 and 6'10 and we need size size andmore size!!

[Ghost of Kleine]

If we go big, Maxime is the way to go

Get the best big that fits what Ott wants to do - hopefully that player is there at 10. And not a Shooting Guard or Small Forward as the best player available

Well, Ott wants to play fast with emphasis on getting out in the break. So ideally we should target faster centers and/ or athletic or fluid rim runners, etc. In this draft Specifically we should be looking mostly at Wolf and Raynaud for their ballhandling fluidity.


Beringer and Neiderhauser for their size, athleticism and speed/ lateral recovery. And then Kalkbrenner and Zisarky for their elite size/ length and defensive potential archetype alternative to Makuach.

This is also specifically why the Suns are targeting Ckaxton because of his speed, lateral fluidity, and advanced ballhandling abilities that allow him to go coast to coast and initiate the break. All things that fit Otts' scheme.

[thamadkant]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

If the Suns are going to find a decent frontcourt then Booker has to be traded for picks. There is no other option if they ever want to succeed. Booker turns 35, the earliest the Suns can reach a playoff spot. I can't remember ever seeing such a catastrophic situation in the NBA.

Yes. Suns are absolutely in a dire situation, without a doubt the worst outlook in the entire league for the 2026 to 2031 timeframe. Pick 10 is a bright spot that can help cover 2026 and 2027, but they need to hit the jackpot and draft a starter level player with that pick.... they can't afford a backup player.

Trading Booker now for potential lottery picks while also aiming not to be the worst team in the league should be the aim. Suns fans seeing another team get Suns lottery pick next year would really make the enthusiasts revolt more.

[lilfishi22]

After a night of mulling it over, I don't think I've been able to rationalise the trade any more and it's just a trade where we got poor value.

I think it ultimately came down to all these other teams with experienced GM's like Masai, Riley, Stone etc who just looked at the situation individually, saw the Suns were intent on moving KD, saw the Suns brought in an inexperienced, untested rookie GM and just decided they weren't going to be the one to up the offer. At the end of the day, if guys like Ware was on the table, if the Toronto deal was real or if Houston were upping the offer to include an extra pick/Jabari, then it would've been a different deal. Based on what ended up happening, it appears the deals just weren't that good and you could just say teams saw the risk of a 37yo KD wasn't worth giving up their best assets for or you could say teams saw Brian Gregory and knew they could talk him and Ish into devaluing KD by pointing out the position we're in etc etc. Either way, no team really stood out with a better deal and we took probably the best one that was actually on the table.

The problem is that we basically had 2 great moves we could've made given our situation, one which we don't want to make (Book) so we were left with one in the chamber we absolutely had to hit on. And we couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that one shot. Now we have even more pressure on us to hit on the #10 pick, which I just don't see guys with tremendous upside at that range.

[Slim Charless]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

We're gonna suck with or without Beal. No reason to attach anything to get rid of him. Hope Green works out but let's just say I ain't holding my breath. He'll get all the opportunity he needs next to Booker.

Ok, I'll ask you 2 since both of you know your prospects.

Maluach or Queen at #10? Or should we try for 1 of the Euro PGs.....

Out of those two if only picking between them Specifically, I'm choosing Maluach. He's a more reliable defensive presence with elite measurables and physical nature.

Sure Queen is more versatile, but he's also not as good of a defender, and at only 6'9 with a 7'0 wingspan, he'll be severely limited at the next level and honestly more of a WCJr with worse rim protection/ defense.

Honestly, my preference would be to trade down and pick up more picks and target either Danny Wolf or Maxime Raynaud and then use one of our other picks on Kalkbrenner or Zisarky ( 7'3 physical aussie with a 7'4 wingspan and a 9'6 standing reach).

Or even Vlad Goldin or Hunter Dickinson in the 50s. Both are 7'1 265 lbs and physical bigs. Goldin kore of a Zubac, and Dickinson more if a more fluid, quicker Nurkic.

But honestly, I wouldn'tt take either of Queenor Sorber as they're both undersized at 6'9 and 6'10 and we need size size andmore size!!

Yeah. We're pretty small. I'm hoping that Malauch is there but I admit that might not happen. Egor would give us great size at the PG.

I prepared for the inevitable Jace pick at #10 however.