2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[cl2117]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

Unless you're eating Beal, you ain't getting #10.

[Curmudgeon]

I expect Beal to be bought out.

[redslastlaugh]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

As we all know by this point, the only way Boston can aggregate two salaries to use in the same transaction (KP + Jrue to PHX in ur idea) is if the result of the trade is Boston drops under the second apron. So that makes it tough. It'd have to be a followup trade to a Hauser, White and/or JB trade that took money off next year's cap sheet or (like u said) have to a be 3 teamer ... gonna be tough...

and if we did get #10 back, then once we sign that player, that's $6 million back on the books for next year. But that doesn't matter for the trade math ... but it matters for the practical tax management of next years roster budget

But I kinda like your idea. Anytime you can trade with a resoundingly inept front office/owner, you gotta do it. Always, you gotta prioritize finding that incompetence when looking at potential trading partners ... it's a dog eat dog world out there, lol

[chrisab123]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

Unless you're eating Beal, you ain't getting #10.

And this definitely isn’t the draft to extend yourself to get into the lottery either. There’s not a lot of difference in this draft from 10-30. This draft will be a crap shoot to get role players let alone all stars.

[hugepatsfan]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

As we all know by this point, the only way Boston can aggregate two salaries to use in the same transaction (KP + Jrue to PHX in ur idea) is if the result of the trade is Boston drops under the second apron. So that makes it tough. It'd have to be a followup trade to a Hauser, White and/or JB trade that took money off next year's cap sheet or (like u said) have to a be 3 teamer ... gonna be tough...

and if we did get #10 back, then once we sign that player, that's $6 million back on the books for next year. But that doesn't matter for the trade math ... but it matters for the practical tax management of next years roster budget

But I kinda like your idea. Anytime you can trade with a resoundingly inept front office/owner, you gotta do it. Always, you gotta prioritize finding that incompetence when looking at potential trading partners ... it's a dog eat dog world out there, lol

This isn’t exactly true about the aggregation rules. They don’t have to be under the 2nd apron in the deal to send two guys out at once. We can trade Jrue ($32.4M) and KP ($30.7) for two guys making $30M each. There’s no need to aggregate there because one player is “matched” by Jrue and the other by KP, and in either case their $30M is less than we send out. However, we could not trade those two for one guy making $35M and the the other making $25M without being below the 2nd apron because now for the $35M player aggregation is required to satisfy the condition of not taking back more than we send out.

[hugepatsfan]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

Unless you're eating Beal, you ain't getting #10.

And this definitely isn’t the draft to extend yourself to get into the lottery either. There’s not a lot of difference in this draft from 10-30. This draft will be a crap shoot to get role players let alone all stars.

There’s no way the actual talent evaluators think the draft is homogenous from 10 to 30. That’s something fans say just casually reading up on prospects. No one actually scouting, interviewing and evaluating would ever feel that way.

[cl2117]

Phoenix badly needs a PG and a C.

I wonder if there's a way a deal could happen where we send them Jrue AND KP..maybe a 3 team deal? Involving Beal and/or Green headed out of Phoenix..

Maybe Phoenix sends us the 10th pick in the draft..

Unless you're eating Beal, you ain't getting #10.

And this definitely isn’t the draft to extend yourself to get into the lottery either. There’s not a lot of difference in this draft from 10-30. This draft will be a crap shoot to get role players let alone all stars.

Yeah I'd be keen to try to trade up a few spots if there is someone Stevens loves that falls to the 20's but I don't think you want to overextend yourself to get into the teens/lotto.

I expect Beal to be bought out.

I find it crazy but also very plausible that Beal gets bought out actually.

He'd be a really interesting option for 2026/2027. If he's bought out I figure he ends up on a 1 year deal where he makes back the money he had to give up and that'd leave him back on the market for the following year. We heard how him at Tatum were best buds all through the Beal trade saga, I wonder if having just been cast off but also having made his millions he'd take a discount to pair up with JT. Beal's contract is horrific but he can still ball. Him on a super low number (kind of like how RWB has bounced around) could be a huge roster building piece especially if we're trying to duck the repeater tax or something like that or just looking for some firepower. Obviously not an option for this season but one to watch for the future for sure.

[Ben-N1ce]

Is Giannis a Celtic yet?

[165bows]

With the East so wide open next season, a team like Atlanta should go all out on Jaylen Brown...

Or and hear me out…a team like the Celtics who won the title 12 months ago could roll with a guy like Jaylen until Tatum gets back and take advantage of a wide open Eastern Conference.

Other element here is say they got back to the finals and lose, well that’s right about when Jokic’s situation will be coming to a head.

[165bows]

Honestly, neither do I. Thankfully he is not a Celtic. Green is horrible

#10 and Green for Durant who has 1-2 years left in the league is absolutely crazy. I have no idea what the f Houston is thinking, regardless of how you see Green.

No it isn’t.

Green is trash.

Pick 10 yeah okay if they hit on it maybe Phoenix wins out but Houston has a pretty good roster and desperately needed a scorer.

Houston still has other assets as well to add more pieces.

They don’t need anymore rookies not getting playing time like Shepherd.

Green’s contract was also awful.

I think under ime KD might thrive and be a Horford like presence on that team.

Speaking of, and I hate to say it, I’m sure Houston would be really happy to poach Horford this offseason.

[fallguy]

I know everyone hates Jalen Green. And you're not exactly wrong. But he's probably still going to outperform almost everyone in the top-15 of this year's draft over the next 2-3 years.

[djFan71]

#10 and Green for Durant who has 1-2 years left in the league is absolutely crazy. I have no idea what the f Houston is thinking, regardless of how you see Green.

No it isn’t.

Green is trash.

Pick 10 yeah okay if they hit on it maybe Phoenix wins out but Houston has a pretty good roster and desperately needed a scorer.

Houston still has other assets as well to add more pieces.

They don’t need anymore rookies not getting playing time like Shepherd.

Green’s contract was also awful.

I think under ime KD might thrive and be a Horford like presence on that team.

Speaking of, and I hate to say it, I’m sure Houston would be really happy to poach Horford this offseason.

Indiana fans on T&T are talking about signing Kornet away too.

[redslastlaugh]

I expect Beal to be bought out.

If they waive/stretch him they're gonna carry $22 empty million on their cap for five full years.
If they just buy him out they're gonna carry $54 million this year and another $57 next year on their cap.
They can't tank because they don't have their picks... They needs guys who can play next couple of years.

It'd be a surprise if Phoenix buys him out. But also, Phoenix ownership has outperformed my expectations everytime for choosing wrong and burning cash... so I won't count Ishbia out. But, honestly, I can't see it with a Beal buyout.

[Celts17Pride]

We are still on Giannis for Jaylen Brown OMG!!

[Curmudgeon]

I expect Beal to be bought out.

If they waive/stretch him they're gonna carry $22 empty million on their cap for five full years.
If they just buy him out they're gonna carry $54 million this year and another $57 next year on their cap.
They can't tank because they don't have their picks... They needs guys who can play next couple of years.

It'd be a surprise if Phoenix buys him out. But also, Phoenix ownership has outperformed my expectations everytime for choosing wrong and burning cash... so I won't count Ishbia out. But, honestly, I can't see it with a Beal buyout.

Depends on the discount that Beal is willing to take.

[SparringPartner]

Wemby and JB fit better.

Wemby and Giannis will be great on offense, but they will be a little slow on defense.

You don't think they'd figure out how to accomodate two of the most (if not THE most) freakishly athletic players in NBA histry?

I think that's wishful thinking on your part that San Antonio is handing us Giannis unless a) Giannis forces his way here (unlikely) or b) we are sending an absolute boatload of additional value their way (and even then I probably don't do it if I'm SAS).

Don't forget Giannis has a say in this.

If Giannis says he wants Boston then he will go to Boston.

Not sure the #2 is enough to get Giannis.
MIL would be okay sending Giannis to C’s?
From a financial standpoint BOS still has to shed salary.
Giannis is okay with a gap year, maybe two because of Tatum’s injury? He’ll be 31 in December.

Based on the above I don’t think this happens. I’d rather get the assets from SAS for JB

[165bows]

No it isn’t.

Green is trash.

Pick 10 yeah okay if they hit on it maybe Phoenix wins out but Houston has a pretty good roster and desperately needed a scorer.

Houston still has other assets as well to add more pieces.

They don’t need anymore rookies not getting playing time like Shepherd.

Green’s contract was also awful.

I think under ime KD might thrive and be a Horford like presence on that team.

Speaking of, and I hate to say it, I’m sure Houston would be really happy to poach Horford this offseason.

Indiana fans on T&T are talking about signing Kornet away too.

Bunch of vultures lol if Kornet leaves I’d rather see him go back to Tennessee.

[SparringPartner]

Jrue to Indiana.. They will need a point guard..bring Nesmith back..

They have Nembhard & McConnell

I could actually see the Pacers being interested in KP. Miles Turner is so hit or miss. I’d be shocked if the Pacers traded Nesmith

[hugepatsfan]

No it isn’t.

Green is trash.

Pick 10 yeah okay if they hit on it maybe Phoenix wins out but Houston has a pretty good roster and desperately needed a scorer.

Houston still has other assets as well to add more pieces.

They don’t need anymore rookies not getting playing time like Shepherd.

Green’s contract was also awful.

I think under ime KD might thrive and be a Horford like presence on that team.

Speaking of, and I hate to say it, I’m sure Houston would be really happy to poach Horford this offseason.

Indiana fans on T&T are talking about signing Kornet away too.

At the cost of letting Turner go? Because unless they're doing that, I don't see them going deeper into the tax for him. It'd be going to IND for low money or staying in BOS for low money and I think he'd stay in BOS. Not worried about them poaching him on a minimum deal, which is all I can see them offering unless they let Turner go.

[SparringPartner]

No rush in trading KP because the Cs have until trade deadline to move him.

If KP's healthy, he will help JB, White, and PP lead the Celtics to 45-50 wins.

Who knows, if KP plays well, Cs might not trade him at all.

I think the wisest move is signing KP to a cheaper extension next year

100%.

I'm a believer in KP.

Agreed. He’s so unique, and a game changer, but so inconsistent due to health. If KP signed for 3 years for $70M I’m all-in