2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[grant101]

Does anyone know if ESPN is coming out with another mock draft simulator? The one the had last year was really cool https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

I wonder if there are any other sites that do this

[DreamTeam09]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

If this happens, I hope someone starts a "Fire Masai" thread.

The pick here really should be Coward IMO.

lol lol The 2nd best player on a final 4 team, someone who showed real leadership ability when the #1 pick went down and the team didn't really miss a beat, would somehow be a bad pick to the point where firing might be worthy in comparison to not selecting Coward? A 3rd yr JR who only played 6 games of any substance last szn ???

Like come on man....

[Consequence]

Does anyone know if ESPN is coming out with another mock draft simulator? The one the had last year was really cool https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

I wonder if there are any other sites that do this

https://fanspo.com/nba/mock-draft-simulator

[Flush]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

If this happens, I hope someone starts a "Fire Masai" thread.

The pick here really should be Coward IMO.

Coward looks pretty solid too.

Honestly none of us know how any of these prospects will turn out. Majority of them will be out the league and only a few will potentially be allstars. Asking to Fire Masai because they didn’t draft somone a specific poster wants is a little insane until the player can be properly evaluated years from now.

Even if they pan out you can argue that circumstances, opportunity, organizational structure, etc. could've influenced that outcome...basically unless the player is a generational talent from the get go; it's sort of pointless to make any comparisons because we simply can't evaluate it. I'm sure a lot of prospects that were drafted from other organizations that are out of the league today maybe would've fared better if they were on another team under a different system and vice versa. So I'd rather only judge the player we draft after like 3 years of development to determine if we drafted successfully; not who could've drafted because they ended up better, impossible to know if they would've been the case on our team

[grant101]

Does anyone know if ESPN is coming out with another mock draft simulator? The one the had last year was really cool https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

I wonder if there are any other sites that do this

https://fanspo.com/nba/mock-draft-simulator

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

[Consequence]

Does anyone know if ESPN is coming out with another mock draft simulator? The one the had last year was really cool https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

I wonder if there are any other sites that do this

https://fanspo.com/nba/mock-draft-simulator

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

This does that, not sure where they source the team needs but you can choose to draft for the Raptors and it will sim picks for the other teams based on needs.

[DreamTeam09]

https://fanspo.com/nba/mock-draft-simulator

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

This does that, not sure where they source the team needs but you can choose to draft for the Raptors and it will sim picks for the other teams based on needs.

I tired it, it doesn't show you who were selected once it's your turn, I don't like that. We were left with Noa or Carter or CMB when I ran it, not really happy, I'd trade down smh

[Consequence]

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

This does that, not sure where they source the team needs but you can choose to draft for the Raptors and it will sim picks for the other teams based on needs.

I tired it, it doesn't show you who were selected once it's your turn, I don't like that. We were left with Noa or Carter or CMB when I ran it, not really happy, I'd trade down smh

It does, at least on desktop, just scroll down beneath where the available players are and it shows the entire draft. I got Maluach at 9 and Coward at 39 while checking, imagine lol.

[Altern8]

San antonio really likes sorber at 14 per kyle mann

Apparently, Presti does as well @ 15 if he's still available.

[SpezNc]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

Crossing fingers that you are correct even if I do not expect it .

[Ari_Emanuel]

I still think Sorber will seriously be considered at 9

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I think he's the type.of player down the road could become top 5 in twrms of impact in a re-draft.

Another one of those guys that isn't a sexy pick, but might become one of the best in this draft.

Wait - 7’6” wingspan? Thought he was short for his size but that’s a game-changer.

Ok, you’ve got my attention.

[SpezNc]

https://fanspo.com/nba/mock-draft-simulator

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

This does that, not sure where they source the team needs but you can choose to draft for the Raptors and it will sim picks for the other teams based on needs.

The ESPN analytical is much better than the Fanspo

Fanspo is really cool when used in a podcast . But the ESPN simulator was so much better

Also with Fanspo there is always issue with the algorithm like Flagg not being picked #1 or Coward being available at #39

Any simulations can have bugs here and there . The ESPN wasn’t perfect . But I love how they put a floor and ceiling that look personalized to each players.

I remember last year there were some player with less volatility and other with more volatility. That was very good.

[grant101]

This one is cool, but I liked the feature of being able to draft for just one team and letting the algorithm pick for for other teams (which I believe accounted to team needs). Thanks though!

This does that, not sure where they source the team needs but you can choose to draft for the Raptors and it will sim picks for the other teams based on needs.

The ESPN analytical is much better than the Fanspo

Fanspo is really cool when used in a podcast . But the ESPN simulator was so much better

Also with Fanspo there is always issue with the algorithm like Flagg not being picked #1 or Coward being available at #39

Any simulations can have bugs here and there . The ESPN wasn’t perfect . But I love how they put a floor and ceiling that look personalized to each players.

I remember last year there were some player with less volatility and other with more volatility. That was very good.

I agree with this, but just ran the Fanspo mock and ended up with Fears and Yang, so it's not all bad lol.

[Agimat]

My pred Egor Demin/Maluach at 9

[WuTang_OG]

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[Tor_Raps]

I hope Masai stops trying to build around Scottie and builds WITH Scottie. Scottie isnt good enough to be the main guy on a team so you draft the best player available regardless of their skillset.

[WuTang_OG]

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The Raptors have been fielding offers from teams interested in moving up in the top 10, as several prospects like Collin Murray-Boyles, Noa Essengue, and Thomas Sorber are viewed as potential trade-down targets for Masai Ujiri's crew. League personnel also continue to indicate that they don't see Maluach falling out of the top 10 because of Toronto's interest in him.


This is a good spot for the Raptors to be in because they will have a lot of leverage based on which players are available in this spot. The idea of addressing their frontcourt has to be at the front of Ujiri's mind entering the offseason since Jakob Poeltl and Colin Castleton are the only big men under contract for the 2025-26 season.

While Queen has work to do with his shooting and defensive positioning, his big frame and skills around the rim make him an attractive finisher to place next to Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram. Do not be shocked if a team looks to trade up for Queen in this spot, as the Bulls, Pelicans, Wizards, and Portland Trail Blazers have known interest in him.

[DG88]

Dan Tolzman today from Eric Koreen

Raps assistant GM Dan Tolzman says he think this draft is a bit deeper than last year in terms of guys who can come in and impact right away.

"We like where we're at and we're focussing more on that than what previous drafts looks like."

"It doesn't seem like there are many options out there to move up. ... There is definitely interest in (teams) trying to get our pick."

Tolzman says there can't be high expectations on a centre to come in and play right away, because centre is so hard to play immediately. And that will lead them to take best player available, which is what they would do anyway.

Tolzman says he has a "bit of a feeling" on who will go ahead of them, but guys slip through all the time. Says there are eight guys who seem like they are likely to go ahead, but he'd be surprised if it actually plays out that way, because there are always surprises.

"There are a lot of teams kind of in the mid-field that are going to try to make the jump up to contention, too," Tolzman says about the East presenting an opportunity.

Tolzman said he didn't get every prospect to Toronto that he wanted to, but that's always the case. Thinks one workout isn't going to sway you that much, although it's nice to get players in front of non-scouting front office. (They took WALTER without interviewing him at combine or working him out)

"Our eight is probably different than every other team's eight above us." So being comfortable with the next tier of prospects is mostly irrelevant.

[WuTang_OG]

Vecenie on today’s nba trends for drafting based on okc/indiana finals



- he would focus in dribble pass shoot , able to process and defend

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[dohboy_24]

Does anyone know if ESPN is coming out with another mock draft simulator? The one the had last year was really cool https://espnanalytics.com/nba-draft-sim/

I wonder if there are any other sites that do this

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nba-mock-draft-simulator