PF targets

[LaSheed]

Bam/Reed/2025 1st (few C's I like here)
Portis/Laravia/Anderson
Ausar/THJ
Allen/Beasley/Sasser (if Sasser salary isn't needed)
Cade/Schroeder

That's very far from a contender unless Ausar becomes a star-caliber scorer. Even if he did, it would have a very weak bench.

Yeah I didn't love the bench but didn't put much thought into it. Wish we had a better idea what Ivey was

[the_l_train]

Bam/Reed/2025 1st (few C's I like here)
Portis/Laravia/Anderson
Ausar/THJ
Allen/Beasley/Sasser (if Sasser salary isn't needed)
Cade/Schroeder

That's very far from a contender unless Ausar becomes a star-caliber scorer. Even if he did, it would have a very weak bench.

Yeah I didn't love the bench but didn't put much thought into it. Wish we had a better idea what Ivey was

I appreciate you trying to get us Portis/Laravia in this scenario though…

Curious about the centers you like in this draft. In our range I’ve seen Wolf, that Rocko guy and Hansen Yang (aka Yao-kic), and could see all 3 as an instant fan favorite.

Apparently Wolf has been lights out from 3 in predraft camp, but figure he will be long gone by 36.

[shrink]

Wolves fan offering his 2 cents (for what its worth).

Naz is a great story and an even better dude. He's basically a folk hero in Minnesota. Went undrafted because he was fat and lazy in college, but really busted his ass to get in shape and improve his game. And up until this year, he's come back significantly improved every year of his career. I think he's probably close to his ceiling. I don't foresee another jump in production.

Offensively, he's a very good, but streaky shooter. The ball also never sticks with him. He makes very quick decisions to shoot/drive/pass. It can lead to very good movement, it also leads to some bad turnovers.

Defensively he really lacks awareness. He gets caught out of position frequently and tends to reach and grab from a flat-footed base. He will pull off some very impressive weakside blocks, but he's not a rim protector at all.

He rebounds like a SF.

So...what is his position? That's tough. He's a legit 6'9, but he's cut his weight down into the low 230s. Its helped him move on offense, but he's been a really poor defender both heavy and light. He's more of a "big wing" than a post or even a stretch big, but he's not really a creator and he struggles defending in space.

I think he's been in the perfect role the past few years - he's an offensive-minded 6th man. He should be playing 25-30 minutes when his shot is falling and he's helping the team. And probably 10-15 minutes when his shot isn't falling because then he's actively hurting you.

I love the guy, but I'd hesitate to pay him more than 20M/year. But I'll always cheer for him wherever he plays and hope he ends up in a great situation for him - either in Minny or elsewhere.

I stopped by to post a MIN perspective, but BlacJacMac beat me to it. Great write up.

I would add that at 230, Naz is a more of a PF/SF, than a PF/C. He gets played at center because after the team traded KAT away, they hadn’t added a back up center in the off-season, and at least Naz used to play it when he was 270.

From a MIN perspective, I think Naz stays, unless the offer for him is ridiculous. He is best friends with Ant, and the core of the team is considered Ant, McDaniels and Naz. Naz is a poor defender, and only plays decently with Gobert behind him (so what else is new), and they were the #2 two-man line up for the Wolves. Naz is ridiculously popular with the fans, the type of “start from nothing, hard worker, success” feel good story midwesterner’s love. He seems to love being in MIN, signing his last deal, at a discount, just before free agency opened. I assume MIN will offer up to $24 mil for him, which is likely more than he is worth, because of the love of Ant and the fans. That may mean Julius Randle will be traded, even though he was terrific in the second half and the Wolves best player for the first two playoff series. Randle wants to stay too, and it’s a big deal, because most players don’t want to come to MIN, but new ownership may move him for financial reasons, or to find a PG replacement.

Good luck next season! You guys were the success story of the year, and I could see another big leap next year too!

[Neptune]

Det trades: Duren/Ivey/Holland/Harris/Font + picks
Miami trades: Bam & Anderson
Phoenix trades: Grayson Allen + #10

Hell no!

[the_l_train]

Det trades: Duren/Ivey/Holland/Harris/Font + picks
Miami trades: Bam & Anderson
Phoenix trades: Grayson Allen + #10

Hell no!

Yeah this would be a package I would expect for a guy like Giannis (or an actual stud player), not frickin Bam "I'm the best defender in the league and I barely average 1 block" Adebayo



(I get it, he is a great defender in his own right and can switch onto smaller players...but come on...)

[LaSheed]

That's very far from a contender unless Ausar becomes a star-caliber scorer. Even if he did, it would have a very weak bench.

Yeah I didn't love the bench but didn't put much thought into it. Wish we had a better idea what Ivey was

I appreciate you trying to get us Portis/Laravia in this scenario though…

Curious about the centers you like in this draft. In our range I’ve seen Wolf, that Rocko guy and Hansen Yang (aka Yao-kic), and could see all 3 as an instant fan favorite.

Apparently Wolf has been lights out from 3 in predraft camp, but figure he will be long gone by 36.

I'm intrigued by Raynaud & Kaulkbrenner. Yang just cuz he's massive lol

[LaSheed]

Det trades: Duren/Ivey/Holland/Harris/Font + picks
Miami trades: Bam & Anderson
Phoenix trades: Grayson Allen + #10

Hell no!

Haha it was a trial run I swear!

[BadMofoPimp]

Det trades: Duren/Ivey/Holland/Harris/Font + picks
Miami trades: Bam & Anderson
Phoenix trades: Grayson Allen + #10

Hell no!

Haha it was a trial run I swear!

No way the Heat trade away Bam for that. They won't trade Bam away for anyone really unless it is a too good to be true proposal.

[LaSheed]

Hell no!

Haha it was a trial run I swear!

No way the Heat trade away Bam for that. They won't trade Bam away for anyone really unless it is a too good to be true proposal.

I totally agree

[the_l_train]

If Pat Riley wont trade Jaime Jacquez and Haywood Highsmith for Durant, imagine what he wants for Bam…

[bstein14]

If Pat Riley wont trade Jaime Jacquez and Haywood Highsmith for Durant, imagine what he wants for Bam…

It's incredibly likely that Miami has had conversations with Milwaukee about what they'd want in a Giannis trade. Its the same reason the Spurs also decided to not give up much in a Durant offer even though Durant had SA, Miami, and Houston on his list... teams are waiting for the bigger fish to drop. You know the Bucks will grant Giannis's wish and trade him to a team on his short list of 4 or 5 cities he'd like to play for and SA and Miami are very possibly both teams he'd consider.

[the_l_train]

If Pat Riley wont trade Jaime Jacquez and Haywood Highsmith for Durant, imagine what he wants for Bam…

It's incredibly likely that Miami has had conversations with Milwaukee about what they'd want in a Giannis trade. Its the same reason the Spurs also decided to not give up much in a Durant offer even though Durant had SA, Miami, and Houston on his list... teams are waiting for the bigger fish to drop. You know the Bucks will grant Giannis's wish and trade him to a team on his short list of 4 or 5 cities he'd like to play for and SA and Miami are very possibly both teams he'd consider.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the Bucks are dumb enough to go for a guy like Bam if Giannis is traded…and doubt Bucks are drooling over Jacquez/Haywood/Jovic or Wiggins…and Ware would intrigue me more than Bam.

No matter who’s involved, it seems like such a lateral move for Giannis…so Giannis says trade me to Miami to go play with…Tyler Herro??? Don’t think Giannis likes south beach that much, and Bucks would likely expect a combo of Bam/Ware or Herro to be in the deal at a minimum. Not enough left behind to build a real competitive team.

[Laimbeer]

Lots of chatter on the trade board about Siakim since the Hali injury. What do we have to add to Harris and Stewart?

Proposed on the board (for value reference) -

Pacers trade: Pascal Siakam, Obi Toppin, TJ McConnell
Blazers trade: Jerami Grant, DeAndre Ayton, 2025 #11 pick, 2028 MKE 1st, 2030 MKE 1st

Pacers trade: Siakam, Nesmith
Spurs trade: 2#, Barnes, Sochan, Branham, Keldon Johnson

[Canadafan]

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[theBigLip]

Well some will be happy that Porzingis got moved and not to us. It didn’t seem to cost much. But I’m sure Langdon is making calls. We can’t really go into next season w Font as the backup PF can we? (Not Ausar - he should be our SF)

[Laimbeer]

Aldama shot 36.8% on threes, not terrible for a young big. 18/9/4 per 36, 16.8 PER. Numbers look good. Anybody see much of him?

[the_l_train]

Aldama shot 36.8% on threes, not terrible for a young big. 18/9/4 per 36, 16.8 PER. Numbers look good. Anybody see much of him?

I’m no Aldama expert but we covered him a bunch in this thread earlier…he seems pretty hot or cold from 3, one month bad, one month good, but yeah the averages are decent.

Apparently his defense is pretty underwhelming, which might be rough for our future if we slot him next to Duren…pretty sure that is why Desmond Bane got in his face and pushed him down in that bench altercation this season.

Although he's basically a 7 footer, more of a PF or even a SF than a center. Haven’t watched him a ton, but my Grizzlies fan buddy claims he is decent but not really worth the money he likely wants.

[the_l_train]

Not a PF, but per Bill Simmons pod, Chris Mannix is saying Clippers don't want to pay Normal Powell. Wish we could to a Tobias swap for him straight-up, play Powell at the 3 and Ausar at the 4. One year rental, see how it goes...Powell is on the older side but has the perfect skill set to be our 2nd/3rd guy on offense.

[tradez401]

heard the kings are listening to offers for sabonis shot 41% from 3 last year avg 19ppg.

[the_l_train]

heard the kings are listening to offers for sabonis shot 41% from 3 last year avg 19ppg.

My guess is they would bite on Duren.

Tobias+Duren+Fontecchio and a future 1st or two? If Schroder going there anyways, maybe some how we work in a sign and trade there to involve him? No idea if there are any benefits to that...

Would hurt to lose a rim-runner like Duren, but that can be backfilled.