Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell* vs MadNess

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Which team wins?

Poll ended at Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:47 pm

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Total votes: 4

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Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell* vs MadNess 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:24 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#2 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:46 am

PG: Chauncey Billups (2005-06) 12.5
18.5ppg, 3.1rpg, 8.6apg, 1spg, 43.3% on 5.2-3pta
MVP-5, NBA-2, DEF-2, AS

SG: Lebron James (2012-13) 17.8
26.8ppg, 8rpg, 7.3apg, 1.7spg, 1bpg, 40.5% on 3.3-3pta
MVP, FMVP, DPOY-2, NBA-1, DEF-1, AS

SF: Jayson Tatum (2023-24) 19.3
27ppg, 8.1rpg, 5apg, 1spg, 0.5bpg, 37.5% on 8.2-3pta
MVP-6, NBA-1, AS

PF: Peja Stojakovic (2003-04) 17.1
21.2ppg, 6.3rpg, 2.1apg, 1.3spg, 43.5% on 6.8-3pta
MVP-4, NBA-2, AS

C: Tyson Chandler (2010-11) 5.5
10ppg, 9.4rpg, 0.5apg, 0.5spg, 1.1bpg
DPOY-3, DEF-2

PG/SG: Nate McMIllan (1993-94) 5.4
6ppg, 4rpg, 5.3apg, 3spg, 39% on 2-3pta
DPOY-7, 6MOY-2, DEF-2

SF/PF: Trevor Ariza (2019-20) 6.1
8ppg, 4.6rpg, 1.7apg, 1.3spg, 37.5% on 3.9-3pta


C: Caldwell Jones (1987-88) 3.3
4.2ppg, 5.2rpg, 1apg, 0.5spg, 1.3bpg



PG: Billups (38) / McMillan (10)
SG: James (38) / McMillan (10)
SF: Tatum (38) / Ariza (10)
PF: Stojakovic(38) / Ariza (10)
C: Chandler (38) / Jones (10)

87/88


Defense will be:
Peja on Christie
Billups on richmond
Lebron/tatum on Bird
Tatum/lebron on Dirk
Chandler on Mourning

Offensively I am am absolute animal.

No one here can gaurd Lebron and honestly, tatum and peja have their way as well.
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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#3 » by MadNESS » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:39 pm

PG: Doug Christie (21) | Ron Harper (27) | Mitch Richmond
SG: Mitch Richmond (38) | Doug Christie (10) | Ron Harper
SF: Larry Bird (38) | Dennis Rodman (10) | Doug Christie
PF: Dirk Nowitzki (38) | Dennis Rodman (10) | Larry Bird
Cc: Alonzo Mourning (36) | Dennis Rodman (4) | Jermaine O’Neal (8)

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Total: 88.0 | 88.0 FGA

85’-86’ Larry Bird 19.6 FGA
02’-03’ Doug Christie 7.0 FGA
10’-11’ Dirk Nowitzki 16.2 FGA
95’-96’ Mitch Richmond 16.9 FGA
89’-90’ Dennis Rodman 6.0 FGA
98’-99’ Alonzo Mourning 13.8 FGA
96’-97’ Ron Harper 5.3 FGA
99’-00’ Jermaine O’Neal 3.2 FGA

Bird will do fine on Tatum

Christie will start on LeBron but also DPOY Rodman will guard him for the 24 minutes he’s in

LeBron at the 2 is strange.

Mitch on Billups.


Bird and Dirk is hard to defend for anyone and I don’t think LR can either.

Alonzo does well here (2nd in MVP & DPOY)

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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#4 » by durantbird » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:48 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:...

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Voting is open. LR and MadNess please vote for yourselves
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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#5 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:33 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:


Did you vote? Can you break tie?
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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#6 » by durantbird » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:37 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:


Did you vote? Can you break tie?

Poll ended, I'll add an AI vote
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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell vs MadNess 

Post#7 » by durantbird » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:40 pm

ChatGPT vote Larry_Russell - LR advances

https://chatgpt.com/share/68599190-31e8-800a-b86a-f64ded9abaa9

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This is a **tight and stylistically fascinating matchup**, but here’s a breakdown of how a 7-game series would likely go given full health:

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### **Offensive Matchups and Strengths**

**Larry\_Russell's Team:**

* **LeBron at SG** is unconventional but devastating. He will overpower Richmond/Christie off the dribble, and neither has the size or strength to contain him consistently.
* **Tatum and Peja** as floor-spacers is deadly, especially with LeBron drawing attention. Peja’s 2004 season was elite (43.5% on high volume).
* **Billups** provides stability, clutch play, and efficient shooting. Against Mitch or Harper, he has the edge in terms of poise and range.
* **Chandler** is a low-usage, high-efficiency center who doesn't clog the lane and can clean up inside.

**MadNESS's Team:**

* **Bird and Dirk** create huge spacing issues and are both top-tier offensive engines. Tatum and LeBron have size but not the physicality to truly bother Dirk in his mid-post spots.
* **Mourning** brings elite rim protection and strength, and this version was 2nd in MVP and DPOY voting.
* **Christie and Rodman** give MadNESS defensive versatility. Rodman especially brings chaos and rebounding on both ends.
* **Richmond** is a physical 2-guard, though his defense on Billups might be shaky.

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### **Defensive Matchups**

**MadNESS:**

* **Rodman on LeBron** (for 24 minutes) is smart. He’s one of the few who can physically battle him.
* **Bird on Tatum** is *optimistic*. Tatum’s slashing and speed would likely get the better of Bird.
* **Dirk on Peja** is dangerous. Peja can run Dirk ragged around screens, and Dirk isn’t agile enough laterally.
* **Christie on LeBron early** will struggle — LeBron will punish him off screens and switches.
* **Mourning can handle Chandler easily**, but he’ll be pulled into help constantly due to perimeter collapses.

**Larry\_Russell:**

* **Chandler on Mourning** is fine. Chandler won’t stop Zo one-on-one, but he can contest vertically.
* **Tatum and LeBron split Bird/Dirk**, but neither matchup is easy.
* **Peja on Christie** is okay — Christie’s not a scoring threat.
* **Billups on Richmond** is physical but winnable — Richmond will get his, but not efficiently.

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### **Benches**

* **LR’s bench**: McMillan (DEF-2) and Ariza give solid perimeter defense and some 3\&D depth.
* **MadNESS’s bench**: Rodman is a game-changer on D. Harper and J.O'Neal add physicality but minimal scoring.

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### X-Factors

* **Spacing favors LR**: Peja + Tatum + Billups + LeBron (at SG!) spreads the floor beautifully.
* **Rodman’s impact** on defense and rebounding could tilt close games.
* **Bird + Dirk’s clutch shotmaking** is a big threat if games are tight late.

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### Verdict: **Larry\_Russell in 7 games**

* **Why?** LeBron at SG surrounded by elite shooting is too much. Peja will feast off attention, Tatum is a mismatch for Bird, and Chandler anchors the defense enough to withstand the Bird/Dirk combo.
* MadNESS’s defense is strong with Rodman and Mourning, but there are too many mismatches to cover — especially once Bird or Dirk are in motion on switches.

This goes deep and is competitive. But **Larry\_Russell’s team has just a bit more offensive dynamism and spacing to pull through in the end.**
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Re: Biggest Draft Misses Draft - Semis - Larry_Russell* vs MadNess 

Post#8 » by MadNESS » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:09 pm

Glad we used AI here. Good outcome. Good luck LR!
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