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Post#1161 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:02 pm

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That's tough. And Vogel doesn't want to be an assistant and is fine with a consultant role just in case a head coaching gig opens up somewhere.

The Mavs also just signed two assistant coaches to add to Kidd’s bench. They also still have Jared Dudley.
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Post#1162 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:10 pm

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As a Mavs Hawks fan, what do you think of a deal centered around AD for Jalen Johnson?

No thank


Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Personally I’m not worried about Cooper’s timeline. His time will come when he’s ready. If he is who people think he is he will rise to the top and it won’t even be a question if he’s taking over when he’s ready.

Besides would it be more beneficial to compete for titles early in your career or to get your ass kicked night in and night out?
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Post#1163 » by Archx » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:45 pm

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kanofwindHK wrote:Yes, i trust AD, he is currently a top 10 player in NBA, he is the best PF/C in nowaday, just behind jokic and Giannis.
When there is big center to share the workload with AD, you will see the lakers championship version AD.
He can stay healthy when a Big C share the workload
I also trust there will be no better PF mentor than AD that Flagg can learn from.
I trust it is win now mode for 25/26, if mavs can bering a good enough pg/sg to play with still injured irving


Flagg and AD couldn't be more different in their roles and playstyle. And AD got hurt twice in short time with Gafford and Lively playing. You think he'll stay healthy entire season+playoffs without Gafford on the team? That's a very good dream to have.

No matter you like or not, AD will stay in mavs in 25/26, and will play with flagg to become the best PF/SF and C/PF combination in NBA


I never said that he'll be traded. I only pointed out Flagg will learn nothing from AD because their playstyles are totally different. Flagg will 100% play more SF or even in point forward role than what AD plays. And no, they won't be best PF/C combo in the league, not even close and even less SF/PF.... In case you didn't notice AD doesn't even want to play center.
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Post#1164 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:09 pm

Archx wrote:
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Flagg and AD couldn't be more different in their roles and playstyle. And AD got hurt twice in short time with Gafford and Lively playing. You think he'll stay healthy entire season+playoffs without Gafford on the team? That's a very good dream to have.

No matter you like or not, AD will stay in mavs in 25/26, and will play with flagg to become the best PF/SF and C/PF combination in NBA


I never said that he'll be traded. I only pointed out Flagg will learn nothing from AD because their playstyles are totally different. Flagg will 100% play more SF or even in point forward role than what AD plays. And no, they won't be best PF/C combo in the league, not even close and even less SF/PF.... In case you didn't notice AD doesn't even want to play center.


Not to mention why would we want AD as a mentor to a young potential star. What habits will he share

How not to play the position that's best for your team
How to force your way out of the team that drafted you to go only one place and one place only
How to be weak and always miss games due to injury

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Post#1165 » by Darren » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:29 pm

I think Cam Thomas is better than Sexton as a trade target. As a UFA, Hrooklyn might be willing to involve him in a sign-and-trade. Cam is pretty awesome combo guard who's playing to Monk or Mitchell 's level. Even if it takes draft pick, I think it's well worth it. I am way more interested in Cam Thomas than Coby White.
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Post#1166 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:36 pm

Losing Sean Sweeney I think will be felt on the team. I also know at some point they will lose Jared Dudley but the coach I most want them to keep is God Shammgod. Every player that comes through Dallas has huge respect for Shammgod. Also one of Cooper Flaggs biggest weaknesses (from what I’ve read) is his handle. Being 6’8”-6’9” he’s going to have to learn to keep his dribble tight to avoid the turnovers. Shammgod is the coach that can best teach him that. Hopefully they don’t lose him to a lateral move.

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Post#1167 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:39 pm

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kanofwindHK wrote:No thank


Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Personally I’m not worried about Cooper’s timeline. His time will come when he’s ready. If he is who people think he is he will rise to the top and it won’t even be a question if he’s taking over when he’s ready.

Besides would it be more beneficial to compete for titles early in your career or to get your ass kicked night in and night out?


Unfortunately we will not compete for rings, Street clothes not even can lead a team to win the play in finals against Memphis.

Trade him for 22/25yo guys with potential and we have a 40/45 Ws team with a young strong core.
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Post#1168 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:41 pm

Mr B wrote:Losing Sean Sweeney I think will be felt on the team. I also know at some point they will lose Jared Dudley but the coach I most want them to keep is God Shammgod. Every player that comes through Dallas has huge respect for Shammgod. Also one of Cooper Flaggs biggest weaknesses (from what I’ve read) is his handle. Being 6’8”-6’9” he’s going to have to learn to keep his dribble tight to avoid the turnovers. Shammgod is the coach that can best teach him that. Hopefully they don’t lose him to a lateral move.

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The only 2.guys who are still here are Kidd& Harrison so it's clear who pull the trigger on Luka.

Get rid of those idiots.
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Post#1169 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:46 pm

This is good to hear.

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Post#1170 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:50 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:
Do you really trust AD or think it makes sense to have him on Cooper's timeline at 54 mil a year?

Personally I’m not worried about Cooper’s timeline. His time will come when he’s ready. If he is who people think he is he will rise to the top and it won’t even be a question if he’s taking over when he’s ready.

Besides would it be more beneficial to compete for titles early in your career or to get your ass kicked night in and night out?


Unfortunately we will not compete for rings, Street clothes not even can lead a team to win the play in finals against Memphis.

Trade him for 22/25yo guys with potential and we have a 40/45 Ws team with a young strong core.

Regardless of what you or I think Nico is running this team and it’s clear he isn’t going anywhere. He believes they will be competing for a title so he will be running the team accordingly. Again it doesn’t matter what you think of Nico and AD and it doesn’t matter what I think of Nico and AD. The only opinion that matters is Nico’s.
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Post#1171 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:55 pm

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Mr B wrote:Personally I’m not worried about Cooper’s timeline. His time will come when he’s ready. If he is who people think he is he will rise to the top and it won’t even be a question if he’s taking over when he’s ready.

Besides would it be more beneficial to compete for titles early in your career or to get your ass kicked night in and night out?


Unfortunately we will not compete for rings, Street clothes not even can lead a team to win the play in finals against Memphis.

Trade him for 22/25yo guys with potential and we have a 40/45 Ws team with a young strong core.

Regardless of what you or I think Nico is running this team and it’s clear he isn’t going anywhere. He believes they will be competing for a title so he will be running the team accordingly. Again it doesn’t matter what you think of Nico and AD and it doesn’t matter what I think of Nico and AD. The only opinion that matters is Nico’s.


Yes of course, but it's a no where path. Everybody in the world know it.

Harrison&Kidd know it too but obviously they have to ride this narrative to save their faces after Luka trade and some stupid statements.

I just hope Adelsons&Dumont will fire boths after a clear failure.
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Post#1172 » by Archx » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:04 pm

I couldn't care less about Sweeney, he never looked anything special. When Kidd was out, he was using same dumb rotations as Kidd. But i do believe losing Shammgod and Dudley would be bad. Both worked extensively with young guys and Dudley actually coached well in Summer league.
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Post#1173 » by Maverick41 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:56 pm

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Post#1174 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:58 pm

Nico Harrison is a moron, way too much for Gaff
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Post#1175 » by ACMFFL » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:59 pm

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Post#1176 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:04 am

$18M per year for Gaff. Seems fair.
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Post#1177 » by Mr B » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:09 am

daoneandonly wrote:Nico Harrison is a moron, way too much for Gaff

Disagree, that is exactly the market for Gaff. Fair deal and glad he’s staying (so far).

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Post#1178 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:13 am

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Post#1179 » by Mr B » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:18 am

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Apparently no 6 month trade restriction.

I personally want them to keep Gafford but if they do intend the trade him at least they have locked his value in on the high end.
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Post#1180 » by Mr B » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:47 am

Even more good news if they can get this deal done and lock up PJ too.

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