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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#21 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:20 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Posted this before but I think the cleanest is:

Mavs get Risacher, Okongwu, Mann

Hawks get Davis, Gafford (TPE)


Nah, dont see why Dallas would give up Gaff also and then take on Mann and not get any picks back. I think Jalen fits much better with Flagg than Risacher, and the latter fits with AD and with his rookie salary, helps Atl's $ more.


I don't see JJ being up for grabs so easily, I think he's the least likely hawk to be traded.

I think every other combination gets thrown out there before JJ does.

It also doesn't make directional sense to give up JJ and keep Risacher when you trade for Davis. Clearly the idea is to try contend.

Sure add picks on


I wouldn't fault Atl for not wanting to trade JJ, I mean there's a reason I'd want him. But I'd draw the line at giving up Gaff and also taking back Mann, that's a deal breaker for Dallas. If Risacher is the best Dalals could do, I'd still want them to explore it, but look to move Risacher to a 3rd team where Dallas get more assets and/or better fitting pieces. I don't like the Flagg-Risacher fit personally
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#22 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:27 pm

setting aside the whole Dallas isn't likely to trade AD even though they should issue..I don't love this for either team. Atlanta isn't a contender after this deal and I wouldn't target JJ to pair with Flagg.
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#23 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:32 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:setting aside the whole Dallas isn't likely to trade AD even though they should issue..I don't love this for either team. Atlanta isn't a contender after this deal and I wouldn't target JJ to pair with Flagg.


In a fantasy scenario where Dallas did trade AD, who would some examples of guys be that you'd target that would pair well with Flagg? Fit, Age, Both?
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#24 » by zimpy27 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:15 pm

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Nah, dont see why Dallas would give up Gaff also and then take on Mann and not get any picks back. I think Jalen fits much better with Flagg than Risacher, and the latter fits with AD and with his rookie salary, helps Atl's $ more.


I don't see JJ being up for grabs so easily, I think he's the least likely hawk to be traded.

I think every other combination gets thrown out there before JJ does.

It also doesn't make directional sense to give up JJ and keep Risacher when you trade for Davis. Clearly the idea is to try contend.

Sure add picks on


I wouldn't fault Atl for not wanting to trade JJ, I mean there's a reason I'd want him. But I'd draw the line at giving up Gaff and also taking back Mann, that's a deal breaker for Dallas. If Risacher is the best Dalals could do, I'd still want them to explore it, but look to move Risacher to a 3rd team where Dallas get more assets and/or better fitting pieces. I don't like the Flagg-Risacher fit personally


It seems you don't value Okongwu either but he definitely has value as a young C
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#25 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:23 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:setting aside the whole Dallas isn't likely to trade AD even though they should issue..I don't love this for either team. Atlanta isn't a contender after this deal and I wouldn't target JJ to pair with Flagg.


In a fantasy scenario where Dallas did trade AD, who would some examples of guys be that you'd target that would pair well with Flagg? Fit, Age, Both?


I'd probably concentrate on picks/swaps. The kind of foundational young player I'd want isn't something a team is likely to give up for AD, so you just gamble on the potential upside of unprotected picks/swaps and I'd push them back several years if I could.

I understand I'm never getting equal value back for AD because his injury history and contract undercuts his ability somewhat. So I'd want to take my return with as much variance as I could get hoping one of them hits for me.
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#26 » by Maverick41 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:40 pm

For DAL, I like it. It's a better fit with Flagg's skillset, his timeline and still being able to compete now. Contrary to ATL fans beliefs, I actually think this is pretty light and DAL can probably push for #13 instead of #22.

For ATL, this is a homerun if AD can remain relatively healthy, particularly in the playoffs. In the weakened East, this team can potentially get to the finals. The team fits very well with Trae offensively and would cover his defensive deficiencies as well as you can reasonably want. ATL can still make additional moves to get even better too.
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Re: Dallas Atlanta 

Post#27 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:35 pm

Maverick41 wrote:For DAL, I like it. It's a better fit with Flagg's skillset, his timeline and still being able to compete now. Contrary to ATL fans beliefs, I actually think this is pretty light and DAL can probably push for #13 instead of #22.

For ATL, this is a homerun if AD can remain relatively healthy, particularly in the playoffs. In the weakened East, this team can potentially get to the finals. The team fits very well with Trae offensively and would cover his defensive deficiencies as well as you can reasonably want. ATL can still make additional moves to get even better too.


Yea as much of a Mavs Homer as I am, really thought it works well for both
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