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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#221 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:09 pm

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Daffy wrote:I'm shifting my focus to Trae Young. Fills 2 holes that we need. If you're able to get Trae Young then Wiggins is solid for us at the 3 or even Jagsmith starting at the would be fine.
You can shift all you want but the Hawks are not going to deal Young to there interdivision rival. They will take us to the woodshed asking for an overpay. What would we trade for him? Herro is due an extension just like Young and at that point they’re better off paying there fan favorite. Hawks have to win as the Spurs own there pick.


I'm thinking next free agency. My gut is telling me he's not extending there.

Would be turning down 57 mil per year.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#222 » by CrossOver » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:24 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#223 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:25 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro is not going anywhere nor is Bam.


MWP, what's your read on Duncan? We have essentially two weeks to cut or trade him, which way are you leaning?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#224 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:33 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#225 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:33 pm

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I think he ended up with his #1 choice. People talk up Bam and Spo but his relationship with Ime and praise of Houston's young guys has been well documented too.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#226 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:38 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro is not going anywhere nor is Bam.


MWP, what's your read on Duncan? We have essentially two weeks to cut or trade him, which way are you leaning?

2 years 20 million extension with team option.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#227 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:48 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro is not going anywhere nor is Bam.


MWP, what's your read on Duncan? We have essentially two weeks to cut or trade him, which way are you leaning?

2 years 20 million extension with team option.

yuck
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#228 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:51 pm

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MWP, what's your read on Duncan? We have essentially two weeks to cut or trade him, which way are you leaning?

2 years 20 million extension with team option.

yuck

Smart thing to do is just let him walk but i’m afraid they get creative and get his 10 mil in savings while spreading it out till next year so they don’t have 9.5 mil in dead cap space. Him working out getting jacked recently at facility and not putting him in Durant deal brought me to this conclusion
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#229 » by SoFlaKingReal » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:53 pm

Durant was always going to Houston. This board fell for an agent using the Heat as leverage again hook, line, and sinker. Heat threw out a courtesy offer, but knew the deal.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#230 » by Shewasfly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:53 pm

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I think he ended up with his #1 choice. People talk up Bam and Spo but his relationship with Ime and praise of Houston's young guys has been well documented too.

I think he wanted to be back in Texas regardless. Houston and SA were always at the top of his list, even in saying he also wanted Miami. I do think he wanted the Spurs more than Houston, not because of the talent/Wemby, but because of the proximity to Austin & his alma mater. I imagine he has retirement (business venture) plans with the Longhorns.

Still...I'm a little floored that if the reports are true we never offered Jovic. I agreed with the strategy of holding him out of talks to up our offer at the last minute if need be, but to never put him on the table? That can't be real. I hope it isn't.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#231 » by SoFlaKingReal » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:55 pm

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I think he ended up with his #1 choice. People talk up Bam and Spo but his relationship with Ime and praise of Houston's young guys has been well documented too.

I think he wanted to be back in Texas regardless. Houston and SA were always at the top of his list, even in saying he also wanted Miami. I do think he wanted the Spurs more than Houston, not because of the talent/Wemby, but because of the proximity to Austin & his alma mater. I imagine he has retirement (business venture) plans with the Longhorns.

Still...I'm a little floored that if the reports are true we never offered Jovic. I agreed with the strategy of holding him out of talks to up our offer at the last minute if need be, but to never put him on the table? That can't be real. I hope it isn't.


Jovic is a non-factor for the Suns lol

The #10 pick and Green dominate anything Heat could offer.

Thinking that adding Jovic at the end of talks as if that would seal a deal is hilarious.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#232 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:08 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Gambo is embarrassing the Heat front office. There’s definitely some bad blood going on now with yet another front office. Add Utah, Blazers, and now Suns that have us on the chit list along with all the East coast rival teams that want no part in doing business with us. Maybe we do need to keep the 20th pick and draft WCJ to keep patching things up with Klutch.


About the bad blood with several team front offices now.... our FO seems to be just waiting for the perfect deal. Not hungry enough
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#233 » by Shewasfly » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:13 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
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Kobewade11 wrote:I think he ended up with his #1 choice. People talk up Bam and Spo but his relationship with Ime and praise of Houston's young guys has been well documented too.

I think he wanted to be back in Texas regardless. Houston and SA were always at the top of his list, even in saying he also wanted Miami. I do think he wanted the Spurs more than Houston, not because of the talent/Wemby, but because of the proximity to Austin & his alma mater. I imagine he has retirement (business venture) plans with the Longhorns.

Still...I'm a little floored that if the reports are true we never offered Jovic. I agreed with the strategy of holding him out of talks to up our offer at the last minute if need be, but to never put him on the table? That can't be real. I hope it isn't.


Jovic is a non-factor for the Suns lol

The #10 pick and Green dominate anything Heat could offer.

Thinking that adding Jovic at the end of talks as if that would seal a deal is hilarious.


Reading comprehension is a thing.

I didn't say anything you're talking about. Being surprised/skeptical that Jovic was not included is not even close to saying that Jovic would = the #10, or even Green for that matter.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#234 » by Daffy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:17 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Gambo is embarrassing the Heat front office. There’s definitely some bad blood going on now with yet another front office. Add Utah, Blazers, and now Suns that have us on the chit list along with all the East coast rival teams that want no part in doing business with us. Maybe we do need to keep the 20th pick and draft WCJ to keep patching things up with Klutch.


About the bad blood with several team front offices now.... our FO seems to be picking fights.


You know, when I was younger, we had a family friend. He was a smart, great guy. Real estate, Professor, successful. But when he got old, in his 70s, he lost his mind. He started picking fights with people. One time, when we did a wellness check, he accused us of stealing his stuff. Random things. It was so weird. He was hostile and aggressive and making things up, completely out of character. Eventually, it was discovered he had very early signs of deterioration of his cognitive functions.

Why do I bring this up?

Who knows.


Yes. Riley is the only one in the office. Yes, the rest of the front office wouldn't notice changes in behavior and intervene with some level of concern. Yes. I agree with your possible take 100%.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#235 » by Daffy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:18 pm

God forbid the Sun or Moon doesn't show up tomorrow. We'll know it's Riley's fault. Side note. I can't believe Riley tore Halliburton's achilles like that.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#236 » by CrossOver » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:22 pm

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Could have gotten it done with Wiggins/Rozier/Jaquez/Jovic/20th/'29 pick swap...kept Herro/Bam/Ware/Duncan contract and future picks. What a complete fumble.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#237 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:29 pm

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They lost Tobin damn lol
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Post#239 » by Beenie » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:34 pm

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They lost Tobin damn lol


From what I’ve seen of Tobin, he usually defends n apologizes for the FO

Went from team guy to crashing out

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#240 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:37 pm

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Could have gotten it done with Wiggins/Rozier/Jaquez/Jovic/20th/'29 pick swap...kept Herro/Bam/Ware/Duncan contract and future picks. What a complete fumble.


That deal would have been the fumble….

That is 4 FRPs for a past-their-prime star. So many were clamoring to trade for Lowry, Rozier, Oladipo, and even trades that did not happen like Dame. All 4 soured real quick(within 2 years). Unless you are shooting for a in-their-prime star/starter player, why would you sacrifice 4-6 years of assets for an up to 2 year window of if-we-are-lucky contention? We would be shooting ourselves in the foot in that regard, because we then never would have the assets for the prime stars that hit the market.

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