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Post#2001 » by Devilanche » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:54 pm

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cjmcallist wrote:Also, shout out to Clay Bennett. Seeing him last night was awesome. Getting emotional after the win, him declining the post-game national interview, and then watching Chet run over and hug him first thing after the game - those things spoke volumes.

Plus, none of this happens without him. One of the best.


I usually don't have much respect for owners but it looks like he has a strong relationship with our players so he might be more active than I thought

He deserve credit for hiring Presti and backing him thereafter whether that’s rebuilding , luxury tax or more importantly trusting his judgement.
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Post#2002 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:58 pm

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cjmcallist wrote:Also, shout out to Clay Bennett. Seeing him last night was awesome. Getting emotional after the win, him declining the post-game national interview, and then watching Chet run over and hug him first thing after the game - those things spoke volumes.

Plus, none of this happens without him. One of the best.


I usually don't have much respect for owners but it looks like he has a strong relationship with our players so he might be more active than I thought

He deserve credit for hiring Presti and backing him thereafter whether that’s rebuilding , luxury tax or more importantly trusting his judgement.

There are a lot of owners that would want to hire presti and then not let him do his job.
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Post#2003 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:01 pm

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I usually don't have much respect for owners but it looks like he has a strong relationship with our players so he might be more active than I thought

He deserve credit for hiring Presti and backing him thereafter whether that’s rebuilding , luxury tax or more importantly trusting his judgement.

There are a lot of owners that would want to hire presti and then not let him do his job.


that's fair because you gotta be patient with Presti and some might lose their mind during that process (hey kizz)
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Post#2004 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:56 pm

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Post#2005 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:13 pm

I'm sure team reporters have gotten to do photoshoots with the Larry O'Brien trophy before, but I don't remember them and I seriously doubt anyone who wasn't once a player for that team has.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2006 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:21 pm

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being a Thunder reporter is one of the best jobs in the world

Unless you're that miserable SOB Barry Trammel. "I love Nick, but I don't like you."
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2007 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:28 pm

One of the cool things about this championship run is that every player who got meaningful minutes in the regular season rotation played a role at some point in the playoffs. Usually the rotations get cut short and guys who were playing all season don't see the court, but instead of just cutting people out of the rotation and going 8 deep Mark was able to play guys based off matchups. Joe played significant minutes at various times throughout the playoffs, Wiggins had some big minutes in the finals, Jwill had big minutes in the Denver series, and Kenrich had significant minutes in the finals.

Ajay is really the only non garbage time guy who didn't have a contributing role at some point in the playoffs. And Mark even gave him a chance at one point.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2008 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:58 pm

cjmcallist wrote:Also, shout out to Clay Bennett. Seeing him last night was awesome. Getting emotional after the win, him declining the post-game national interview, and then watching Chet run over and hug him first thing after the game - those things spoke volumes.

Plus, none of this happens without him. One of the best.


I never met Bennet, but I did somewhat know Jay Scaramucci when I was in OKC. My father worked for Balon even before Jay took over the family business. Anyone that has watched a Thunder game sees their advertising. It is how I used to know some inside information about being able to go into the tax, or more specifically not being able to go into the tax for the first few years until the owners got some of their initial purchase price back out of the team. I had a few insights on how things worked. The ownership was, and I assume still is, completely hands off to the point that they don't know a transaction is happening or who is being drafted until the fans know through reporting. It is why you never hear me badmouth ownership because I am a big believer in hands off ownership and hiring the people and letting them work and then judging them on their work.
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Post#2009 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:59 pm

Through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs the Pacers averaged 12.7 turnovers per game. In the finals they averaged 18.1, in finals losses they averaged 19.3.

Through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs the pacers had an O-rating of 117.7. In the finals they had an o-rating of 108.1, in losses 106.2.

League average o-rating for the playoffs was 113.0, OKC had a D-rating of 105.7.

3 of the bottom 5 teams in playoff turnover percentage were teams that had to play OKC. The Pacers ended up exactly middle of the pack for the playoffs despite being third best prior to the finals.

Era adjusted this team may legitimately have a spot in the argument for greatest defenses of all time.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2010 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:01 pm

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Devilanche wrote:He deserve credit for hiring Presti and backing him thereafter whether that’s rebuilding , luxury tax or more importantly trusting his judgement.

There are a lot of owners that would want to hire presti and then not let him do his job.


that's fair because you gotta be patient with Presti and some might lose their mind during that process (hey kizz)


Shall we pull up some of your posts from the Denver series and the Finals where you were upset that Presti didn't do anything at the deadline? I'll still maintain it was a mistake in the process not to do anything at the deadline. Yes, Boston and Indy got killed by Achilles ruptures to save basketball in OKC, but the process was flawed even if it got the desired result.
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Post#2011 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:06 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:There are a lot of owners that would want to hire presti and then not let him do his job.


that's fair because you gotta be patient with Presti and some might lose their mind during that process (hey kizz)


Shall we pull up some of your posts from the Denver series and the Finals where you were upset that Presti didn't do anything at the deadline? I'll still maintain it was a mistake in the process not to do anything at the deadline. Yes, Boston and Indy got killed by Achilles ruptures to save basketball in OKC, but the process was flawed even if it got the desired result.

It's a bit self serving to pretend the outcome would have been negative if not for injury luck. I can just as easily claim that if we'd made a move at the deadline that player would have killed out chemistry and defense and we would have not made it out of round 2.
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Post#2012 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:06 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:There are a lot of owners that would want to hire presti and then not let him do his job.


that's fair because you gotta be patient with Presti and some might lose their mind during that process (hey kizz)


Shall we pull up some of your posts from the Denver series and the Finals where you were upset that Presti didn't do anything at the deadline? I'll still maintain it was a mistake in the process not to do anything at the deadline. Yes, Boston and Indy got killed by Achilles ruptures to save basketball in OKC, but the process was flawed even if it got the desired result.


I never said Presti had to do something. I always said that it was a tough decision with Chet not even being back from his injury. Show me the posts from the postseason where I say Presti messed up at the deadline.

now u giving Presti an asterisk to his title lol never change please :lol:
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Post#2013 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:11 pm

Two things can both be true, Presti messed up in the past by not being aggressive at the deadline, but made the correct call this year by not sacrificing assets when the team was already capable of winning a championship. Winning/losing a championship with a contending team is always going to come down to some luck, and that's true both of this year and some of the years that we lost. You just don't know what would've happened with moves we didn't make, so you have to judge on outcome.
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Post#2014 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:25 pm

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no clue if true but he's the only former Thunder that really showed up for us (yeah he needed to be there for work but still)
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Post#2015 » by kdthunderup » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:34 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs the Pacers averaged 12.7 turnovers per game. In the finals they averaged 18.1, in finals losses they averaged 19.3.

Through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs the pacers had an O-rating of 117.7. In the finals they had an o-rating of 108.1, in losses 106.2.

League average o-rating for the playoffs was 113.0, OKC had a D-rating of 105.7.

3 of the bottom 5 teams in playoff turnover percentage were teams that had to play OKC. The Pacers ended up exactly middle of the pack for the playoffs despite being third best prior to the finals.

Era adjusted this team may legitimately have a spot in the argument for greatest defenses of all time.


We were incredible defensively but it would be nice if we can develop the half court offense a bit more so we don’t need to be a historic defense in order to win.

I’m sure the guys will add more wrinkles to the offense during the offseason. Mark should hopefully experiment with more things offensively than just SGA or JDub taking turns at doing something.
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Post#2016 » by mr570 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:36 pm

I'm going to be honest SGA is a transcendent basketball player but a little frustrating to watch lead an offense sometimes. The overwhelming majority of that is by design but a tiny bit of it is on him too. Agree that Mark needs to address that and hopefully they can somehow. Whether that's hiring a new assistant or what idk
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Post#2017 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:54 pm

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no clue if true but he's the only former Thunder that really showed up for us (yeah he needed to be there for work but still)

That’s odd because he genuinely talks about Boston like it’s his team. He’s been complimentary of okc but never sentimental when I’ve heard him talk.
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Post#2018 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:55 pm

I feel like the longer the day goes on the more excited I’m getting. I so expected to have my hopes crushed that I was in shock when it didn’t happen.
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Post#2019 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:57 pm

mr570 wrote:I'm going to be honest SGA is a transcendent basketball player but a little frustrating to watch lead an offense sometimes. The overwhelming majority of that is by design but a tiny bit of it is on him too. Agree that Mark needs to address that and hopefully they can somehow. Whether that's hiring a new assistant or what idk

I don’t have a problem with how he plays most of the time. He got sloppy late but he facilitated well. After the finals we still don’t know if we have a true second option or if J Dub deserved the mvp. The other guys need to be consistent.
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Post#2020 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:58 pm

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no clue if true but he's the only former Thunder that really showed up for us (yeah he needed to be there for work but still)

That’s odd because he genuinely talks about Boston like it’s his team. He’s been complimentary of okc but never sentimental when I’ve heard him talk.


Did you listne to him those last two months? He looked like a Thunder fan on National TV. Never heard him say anything negative about the Thunder. He also mentioned how great it was to live in Oklahoma because of the love from the fans.

He also said earlier in the playoffs (during the Nuggets series IMO) that the 2025 Thunder is way better than the 2012 team and that he never seen such an amazing defense. That speaks volume coming from a guy with a big ego.

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