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Call me Libertarian, but I see no value in a “max contract” for the league. There should be no max contract. If I am any superstar in the league I would be pissed at the premise of a max contract. Max contract according to whom? A deal worked out by the union? I can see in the value of a salary cap, given that teams needs to make a profit too in order to keep running. But what value does a max contract provide other than a team saying “hey we can only pay you this amount and no one else can even pay you that much due to the CBA.” Why would elite talent agree to that, yet complain when their play deteriorates that they aren’t getting paid enough?
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Johnny Fontane wrote:This Israel stuff is beyond comprehension. Don’t like to get involved in political discussions on here however this is such a clear overreach of power on Israel’s part that it must be mentioned. As much as they’d like to think they own the USA, they absolutely don’t and hopefully Trump isn’t dumb (isn’t a puppet) enough to drag us all to hell

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contract wrote:Johnny Fontane wrote:This Israel stuff is beyond comprehension. Don’t like to get involved in political discussions on here however this is such a clear overreach of power on Israel’s part that it must be mentioned. As much as they’d like to think they own the USA, they absolutely don’t and hopefully Trump isn’t dumb (isn’t a puppet) enough to drag us all to hell
What can ya say. Have to accept we’re an occupied country and that bending the knee to Israel comes first
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Johnny Fontane wrote:contract wrote:Johnny Fontane wrote:This Israel stuff is beyond comprehension. Don’t like to get involved in political discussions on here however this is such a clear overreach of power on Israel’s part that it must be mentioned. As much as they’d like to think they own the USA, they absolutely don’t and hopefully Trump isn’t dumb (isn’t a puppet) enough to drag us all to hell
What can ya say. Have to accept we’re an occupied country and that bending the knee to Israel comes first

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Johnny Fontane wrote:contract wrote:
What can ya say. Have to accept we’re an occupied country and that bending the knee to Israel comes first
This bs again? It’s not like Iran chants death to america every damn day. Trump saw a threat and eliminated it. Time will tell whether it was the right choice, but if anything Israel worked for Trump in this capacity.
Threat for who Israel or us? The likelihood a terror attack happening within our walls only increases now. Especially with the previous idiotic administration allowing open borders
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BadMofoPimp wrote:oreon wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:
I am no fan of Trump, but just watching the world events while Iran has in no way been truthful nor compliant. They have been agnostic at all times threatening everyone with destruction. Is the world just supposed to sit by while Iran and their proxies keep threatening and attacking our allies. Nope. If Biden was president right now, USA would still have bombed. Iran had zero intentions of honoring Obama's deal, period and never even tried. If they had as you insist, they would have allowed nuclear testers onto their land from the beginning of which they never did. I get it, you hate and despise Trump like the rest of us, but Iran has brought upon this themselves.
Its funny, because I predict this particular rationalization from voters who hate the one they lost to. If Biden or Harris won and the USA bombed Iran, I would expect the same exact rationalization from right wingers. Sounds to me like you are just looking for a scapegoat to blame like many liberals and far right wingers do.
This isn't true. Iran honored the deal till Trump pulled out. This is a fact.
Iran allowed Nuclear testers to verify they were enriching Uranium solely for Power? Iran has been flexing their muscles for a while now threatening much of the middle east. I wonder why Biden didn't work out an agreement with them?
The Biden administration has stated it will not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon, and there have been reports of discussions within the administration about options if Iran takes steps towards weaponization. Following Iran's October 2024 missile attack on Israel, Biden condemned the attack and stated that the US was committed to Israel's defense. He also stated that the US would not hesitate to take all necessary action to hold those who enable or support Iran's attacks accountable.
Biden discussed plans to strike Iran nuclear sites if Tehran speeds toward bomb
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/02/iran-nuclear-weapon-biden-white-house
There is no new agreement to work out if Trump does not pull out of the HISTORIC AGREEMENT that Obama made. What don't you understand?
And your understanding of the geopolitical situation you're trying to speak on is horribly inaccurate to begin with. The original agreement rapidly decelerated their production. Can't tell if you're lying or you just didn't bother to research at all before speaking about this. Here, watch this:
https://www.instagram.com/sully_dawg2/reel/DLL42EpRWV8/
And why is your entire post about Joe Biden when Donald Trump is the president and he is the one who just bombed Iran without congressional approval?

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Shewasfly wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:
I am no fan of Trump, but just watching the world events while Iran has in no way been truthful nor compliant. They have been agnostic at all times threatening everyone with destruction. Is the world just supposed to sit by while Iran and their proxies keep threatening and attacking our allies. Nope. If Biden was president right now, USA would still have bombed. Iran had zero intentions of honoring Obama's deal, period and never even tried. If they had as you insist, they would have allowed nuclear testers onto their land from the beginning of which they never did. I get it, you hate and despise Trump like the rest of us, but Iran has brought upon this themselves.
Its funny, because I predict this particular rationalization from voters who hate the one they lost to. If Biden or Harris won and the USA bombed Iran, I would expect the same exact rationalization from right wingers. Sounds to me like you are just looking for a scapegoat to blame like many liberals and far right wingers do.
How many Iranians are you comfortable letting into our top secret sites to let them make sure we don't have any warheads pointed their way?
Hopefully you realize that these countries are sovereign nations just as we are. Treaties typically meet in a middle ground between the two parties, and aren't just 100% everything one side wants.
Your attempt to both sides this issue also makes zero sense.
There is no evidence to believe the 4 years of Biden not bombing Iran would have led to the Dems suddenly deciding to this time around.
There is no evidence to believe they would have done it without any congressional approval.
There is no evidence that they would have magically decided to do so right after Israel bombed them unprovoked. In fact Israel had been goading every other former president and none bit. Only Trump.
Again, you have zero evidence of what you're saying, just vibes. "It would have been the same, because I said it would". Its okay to not want to hold the Republicans accountable for their actions to justify your vote (or perhaps non-vote) but you still have to back up your assertions.
The one fact we have that no one can dispute is that Trump/the Republicans just bombed Iran. The immediately rush by people like yourself to say "it would have happened anyway" is unfounded and an obvious diversion tactic to pull criticism from those who factually took the action (Trump/the Republicans).
For one, USA would not be setting foot on Iranian soil, but a delegate of the nations under treaty.
Secondly, Biden didn't have to deal with escalating tensions to the point where Iran and Israel were bombing each other. With Iran continually threatening to annihilate Israel and the USA, this is a different scenario than Biden observed. Besides, the Military has the say in this thus I feel it doesn't matter who is president, only in the minds of the sheep (People).
Third: Iran NEVER attempted to honor Obama's peace agreement.
Again, you have zero evidence of what you're saying, just vibes. Your hatred of Trump or anything Trump related would make your opinions invalid because you are acting on emotion.
We're talking about Trump because
1) Trump is the sitting president
2) Trump just bombed Iran
3) Trump is the one who initially pulled out of the Iran deal predating his recent action to bomb them (after Israel told him to of course)
If you would take your emotion out of it and be logical you wouldn't be running away from talking about what actually happened like I am, instead of hypotheticals that can never be proven to avoid dealing in facts.

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Johnny Fontane wrote:contract wrote:
What can ya say. Have to accept we’re an occupied country and that bending the knee to Israel comes first
This bs again? It’s not like Iran chants death to america every damn day. Trump saw a threat and eliminated it. Time will tell whether it was the right choice, but if anything Israel worked for Trump in this capacity.
and 9/11 was because they hated us for our Freedoms, nothing we might have done elsewhere.
Iran has been weeks froma bomb for 33 years according to Netenyahu.
Trumps own intelligence says they don't have a bomb or in pursuit of one, but Israel's intel changed his mind.


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Iran has been weeks froma bomb for 33 years according to Netenyahu.
Trumps own intelligence says they don't have a bomb or in pursuit of one, but Israel's intel changed his mind.![]()
Of course they don’t have a bomb bro, that’s why Trump said to bomb em to stop it. I haven’t seen it was Israeli intel that changed his mind, where did you get that info from? You can make the argument they were not in pursuit of one, but based on the bombing it appears Trump saw enough to take action.
What we have been told publicly from US intel is Iran could have made one within weeks to months per the Director of National Intelligence and Iran has produced levels of enriched uranium that is unpredecdented for a nation without nuclear weapons. Testimony from DNI linked below.
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Did Iran just make a huge strategic blunder shooting missiles into Qatar? Hopefully the US military bases are fully emptied and the damage is cosmetic. Praying for the US troops. Qatar has been playing both sides in the Israel/Iran axis conflict as a mediator. Sending missiles into your mediators airspace, even if it’s not to attack the people of that country is likely a big red line. The same goes with Bahrain and Kuwait where I am hearing missiles were sent there too.
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I am anti war and fully against Trump on this, people aren’t sheep. One thing I’ll point out though, comments sections on the internet are absolutely glowing when it comes to this, there’s a few talking points being spammed like a baking cake analogy to justify this bombing. Israel has a massive troll army on the internet dedicated to defending everything in their interests and subvert both sides of the aisle.
We aren’t sheep, we know what you’re doing, and if this continues Trump is going to end up as popular as George W circa 07-08. And the United States is not a vassal of Israel, people are waking up.
We aren’t sheep, we know what you’re doing, and if this continues Trump is going to end up as popular as George W circa 07-08. And the United States is not a vassal of Israel, people are waking up.
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Oh and to make it clear, although I doubt it’s possible since the entire government is infected, I’d vote blue on literally every candidate if it got aipac and Israel out of our government forever. I just hope my blue friends here maintain the same level of skepticism of the government when the other side retakes power.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Oh and to make it clear, although I doubt it’s possible since the entire government is infected, I’d vote blue on literally every candidate if it got aipac and Israel out of our government forever. I just hope my blue friends here maintain the same level of skepticism of the government when the other side retakes power.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
Israel would have likely attacked us and claimed it was Iran. We would have been dragged in either way
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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Oh and to make it clear, although I doubt it’s possible since the entire government is infected, I’d vote blue on literally every candidate if it got aipac and Israel out of our government forever. I just hope my blue friends here maintain the same level of skepticism of the government when the other side retakes power.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
Yooooo this cop just asked me if I have seen this dude. I snapped a pic. BOLO.

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Johnny Fontane wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Oh and to make it clear, although I doubt it’s possible since the entire government is infected, I’d vote blue on literally every candidate if it got aipac and Israel out of our government forever. I just hope my blue friends here maintain the same level of skepticism of the government when the other side retakes power.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
Israel would have likely attacked us and claimed it was Iran. We would have been dragged in either way
Yes but that's totally never happened before, definitely not like 24 years ago or anything, so it would have been unexpected.
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America first always. Said the same thing when we were foolishly pumping billions into Ukraine while the value of the dollar bill fell each day. Let other countries fight their own battles. You think they would help us if we ever got into a war with Canada or Mexico
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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Johnny Fontane wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Oh and to make it clear, although I doubt it’s possible since the entire government is infected, I’d vote blue on literally every candidate if it got aipac and Israel out of our government forever. I just hope my blue friends here maintain the same level of skepticism of the government when the other side retakes power.
The greatest enemy of the United States, as well as the world, has been Israel for a long time now. Well let me clarify, the greatest enemy of United States civilians, they are happy to use this country as a tool, obviously the government is largely in league with Israel.
When Netenyahu went on TV to claim Iran was going after Trump, what he was actually doing was making a threat. As in, Israel will do it, and blame it on Iran if you don’t do our bidding.
Oh and for posterity, I am in good health and not at all suicidal.
Israel would have likely attacked us and claimed it was Iran. We would have been dragged in either way
Yes but that's totally never happened before, definitely not like 24 years ago or anything, so it would have been unexpected.
Not seeing a reason why Israel would want 9/11, let alone plan it. Afghanistan was not a major threat to Israel. George Bush did ride the wave of post 9/11 hubris to invade Iraq, something that Netanyahu was a supporter of, but that was going to happen whether 9/11 occurred or not.
Going to the present: It appears the US is drawing down forces in the Middle East to focus more on South-East Asia affairs. This B-2 bombing run seems to about wrap up the security threat Iran posed to the US and the world. Iran is running out of missiles, their capacity to make more missiles is getting destroyed, their nuclear program is shattered, and they are showing no desire to escalate. Hopefully at some point, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar will sign onto the Abraham accords. Maybe one day with Iran and a Palestinian nation as well, inshallah.
Either way, US direct funding for Israeli security is likely at its end as the US has no reason to be much involved there now. With Russia occupied in Ukraine and US interest in Europe waning, the only challenge left to US security will receive a majority of US attention in the Pacific.
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Shewasfly wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:oreon wrote:
This isn't true. Iran honored the deal till Trump pulled out. This is a fact.
Iran allowed Nuclear testers to verify they were enriching Uranium solely for Power? Iran has been flexing their muscles for a while now threatening much of the middle east. I wonder why Biden didn't work out an agreement with them?
The Biden administration has stated it will not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon, and there have been reports of discussions within the administration about options if Iran takes steps towards weaponization. Following Iran's October 2024 missile attack on Israel, Biden condemned the attack and stated that the US was committed to Israel's defense. He also stated that the US would not hesitate to take all necessary action to hold those who enable or support Iran's attacks accountable.
Biden discussed plans to strike Iran nuclear sites if Tehran speeds toward bomb
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/02/iran-nuclear-weapon-biden-white-house
There is no new agreement to work out if Trump does not pull out of the HISTORIC AGREEMENT that Obama made. What don't you understand?
And your understanding of the geopolitical situation you're trying to speak on is horribly inaccurate to begin with. The original agreement rapidly decelerated their production. Can't tell if you're lying or you just didn't bother to research at all before speaking about this. Here, watch this:
https://www.instagram.com/sully_dawg2/reel/DLL42EpRWV8/
And why is your entire post about Joe Biden when Donald Trump is the president and he is the one who just bombed Iran without congressional approval?
I understand that Iran has continued to be a hostile nation not only against Israel but many middle eastern countries. This wasn't one man making a decision, but a nation. Iran was going to get bombed at some point while even Biden had talked about. How hard is that to understand?
If they continue to threaten to destroy their enemies while still secretly working towards a bomb, that is a threat to everyone including their allies. I am just surprised this didn't happen sooner.

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HeatFanLifer wrote:War is over. Let’s get back to basketball.
Yeah that won't be happening...people have agendas to push and plenty more whining left to do
