2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[WuTang_CMB]

One interesting scenario for us would be
1.Flagg
2.Harper
3.Edgecombe
4.Maluach (1st shocker of the draft)
5.Kon
6.Bailey
7.Queen ( Pels Rumoured to like Queen)
8.Fears or Tre
9.Fears or Tre

^ That would be my dream scenario if some how one of Tre/Fears fell to us.

Where Maluach ends up is one of the biggest questions before the NBA Draft, given the vast interest existing from teams with top-10 picks. The Pelicans are said to be “huge fans” of Maluach's two-way potential, as one source stated, which makes sense given his length and athleticism that can coincide with Missi.

There has also been smoke about Queen being the Pelicans' ultimate target, which is why he is in play with this seventh pick. What the Pelicans ultimately decide to do will greatly impact decisions made by the Nets and Toronto Raptors.

I think that would be best case scenario for the Raptors from a team fit perspective....With Johnson in & RJ out (All rumors suggest hes getting traded)....Hopefully traded for a big.....That would help the team alot...

Fears would be basically our starting PG for the next decade....

Either guy would be great....We would need to make a trade for a big though if that does end up happening....Jazz at 5 would have to love Kon more than Tre....Which is possible.

Fears would be my number #1 get, I just dont think hes there. My personal opinion is that these teams will pass on KM as they dont want to take a project rim running big top 7 and would rather go with other guys. The kicker is BRK as I think KM will be there for them. They have zero guards with upside. I just think they go with one of Fears/Jak/Demin

[alpngso]

Was it public info that Gradey worked out with the Raps? I don’t think people knew until after the draft when it was confirmed by couple beat writers and Gradey himself.

Don’t think too much into who worked out vs who did not

[BoyzNTheHood]

It’s almost time to post our final top 10’s! I’ll go first…

1) Flagg
2) Harper
3) Edgecombe
4) Knueppel
5) Johnson
6) Maluach
7) Fears
8) Bailey
9) CMB
10) Queen

[Brinbe]

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great graphic. shows that the nets may be the real pivot spot for us in terms of if they go with maluach or someone else. and they could always trade up too for all we know.

[Dalek]

My sense is that if the true target Khaman Maluach is not there, then a trade down scenario makes the most sense because as Tolzman said their board is different from the consensus and beauty id in the eye of the beholder.

Maybe you draft a Queen or an Essengue with a deal to move them for a later pick plus another asset. He said they are taking calls for pick 9. Trade back and get another future pick or prospect. OKC is ideal because they have a mid first pick and are flush with future picks and prospects not getting burn.

[djsunyc]

Tolzman -

"It's always good to have another centre that does the opposite (alluding to Poeltl) ... also could be good to have 48 minutes of the same type of player. We are looking at both scenarios of what is the best player to pair with him."

"Also looking at free agency too for this"

Please for the love of God, fill the backup Center spot one way or another. I've been crying about our Center spot since 2021 lol.

are you ok with precious coming back?

[Pointgod]

One interesting scenario for us would be
1.Flagg
2.Harper
3.Edgecombe
4.Maluach (1st shocker of the draft)
5.Kon
6.Bailey
7.Queen ( Pels Rumoured to like Queen)
8.Fears or Tre
9.Fears or Tre

^ That would be my dream scenario if some how one of Tre/Fears fell to us.

If Tre falls to us I might build an alter to the Toronto Raptors

[S.W.A.N]

It’s almost time to post our final top 10’s! I’ll go first…

1) Flagg
2) Harper
3) Edgecombe
4) Johnson
5) Knueppel
6) Bailey
7) Fears
8) Maluach
9) Carter
10) Coward

10 was a hard one.
Noa, Queen, Yak, CMB all could fit into that 6-12 range.

[junot111]

Why would any team take kon over Tre?

[Yallbecrazy]

He also made a point to say we like guys who can play both sides of the ball and if they arent going to play on the defensive end, Darko made it pretty clear you aren't going to play.

I guess there's also CMB, but man, his lack of shooting leaves a lot to be desired.

Not sure about CMB, reminds me of Derrick Williams

I'm too lazy to show all the statistical differences of another lazy and awful comparison so will just state that Williams' stats showed really low IQ and his stat profile was a lot more like a rich man's Ace Bailey.

[grant101]

I am at 90% that the correct pick for Toronto is Asa Newell. If the shooting is legit he is a really high upside option that fits our culture.

-Hardworking / high motor defender
-Above average athlete for his size
-Shooting potential which seems to be a reasonable outcome - but overall he only shot 30% on jumpers.

“He’s the same guy every day. He could start a game missing his first four [shots] and might make his next four. His facial expression is not going to change. He’s still going to be compliant in terms of making winning plays, passing to the guy that is open, chasing offensive rebounds, closing out correctly.” — Georgia head coach Mike White

Hasn't shown much creation outside of post-ups, but he can drive a bit and pass a bit but he didn't show it as much in college. Seems to be a play finisher type. I do think he is too undersized to play C.

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Rasheer Fleming is the other player in contention to me because he fit the profile, but I don't like his driving ability. Both these two are play finisher types and not creators but the defensive potential is there with both. Fleming has good size but I don't think he reads the game well.

This would be the most MEH outcome. Tank a year to end up with an undersized big with no outlier skills. They’ve done it before, so I wouldn’t be surprised, but I would be disappointed. Ed Davis redux

[djsunyc]

Was it public info that Gradey worked out with the Raps? I don’t think people knew until after the draft when it was confirmed by couple beat writers and Gradey himself.

Don’t think too much into who worked out vs who did not

we brought him in twice and nobody had that info

[Dalek]

Why would any team take kon over Tre?

You look at how physical the playoffs is you just have to have role players who are strong enough to take the toll. Kon is 30 lbs heavier than Tre which is a huge difference. Tre is about 190 lbs and he doesn't play big either.

I also put Kon higher because I know he can be effective in his role and is a willing passer making the correct play. Tre might want to be combo guard and I just don't believe in his playmaking instincts because he is shoot first/second/third mentality.

[junot111]

Why would any team take kon over Tre?

You look at how physical the playoffs is you just have to have role players who are strong enough to take the toll. Kon is 30 lbs heavier than Tre which is a huge difference. Tre is about 190 lbs and he doesn't play big either.

I also put Kon higher because I know he can be effective in his role and is a willing passer making the correct play. Tre might want to be combo guard and I just don't believe in his playmaking instincts because he is shoot first/second/third mentality.

The guy that just won finals mvp came into the league at 180 and still looks like a stick now. Strength is not just about weight and Tre has plenty of time to train to nba standards

Do you need him to be a passer? Besides weight he's not undersized to play on the wing, you can play a real PG next to him

[Clutch0z24]

Why would any team take kon over Tre?

Every team has different list of players they like....The draft does not always go as the mock drafts/analysts say it will go....Its possible that Jazz would like Kon more....But yeah it would just be a dream scenario....Most likely Tre would not slide that far down....But if one of Tre/Fears fell it would be a pretty great scenario for us...Unlikely but not impossible...

[TimeForChange]

watched the Tolzman press conference.

I am standing firm on the raps not taking a center if they stay at 9 but more so, I think they trade down.

[TimeForChange]

after the top 3 or 4, we're going to get fireworks and I don't think too many mocks are going to be accurate.

[hellrazor04]

One interesting scenario for us would be
1.Flagg
2.Harper
3.Edgecombe
4.Maluach (1st shocker of the draft)
5.Kon
6.Bailey
7.Queen ( Pels Rumoured to like Queen)
8.Fears or Tre
9.Fears or Tre

^ That would be my dream scenario if some how one of Tre/Fears fell to us.

Ever since they tried shipping Mark Williams, ive been thinking Maluach to Charlotte. You're on to somethin.

[TimeForChange]

From what I’ve heard, the Raptors are aiming to strengthen their frontcourt depth. The main guy they’re targeting is Khaman Maluach but with him gone, they will likely target Queen at 9 with his high-level offensive tools that can make you drool on film. It’s worth noting that Queen hasn’t committed to a workout with the Raptors yet and has shown doubts of wanting to be in Toronto. The Raptors have also shown willingness to trade down multiple spots for more draft capital. I was told the other day that the Nets have had multiple discussions with Toronto and it might be revisited on draft night.

don't think I have seen this anywhere.

https://draftcentral.net/nba_mockdraft2.html

[WuTang_CMB]

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9. Toronto, Asa Newell

Newell’s range is trending toward the lottery, according to sources around the league. It’s because of his immense versatility on defense as a 6-foot-9 rim protector who can also comfortably switch screens. He has springs in his legs, regularly slamming lobs and swatting shots. And if he ever develops his jumper, he has a chance to exceed all expectations.

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