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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#41 » by MisterRoy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:24 pm

Senor Chang wrote:If we can get Kuminga for Vuc then i draft Coward or KJ with #12. Then try to find a team willing to take on Pwil for another first rounder. I don’t see Kuminga being a part of the long-term future but he can be pump and dumped later for something of value.


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Post#42 » by Dominator83 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:31 pm

meekrab wrote:Fine with a Kuminga deal as long as it's just Vuc and filler going out, no picks or meaningful long term players. Not sure GSW would do that but they've been reportedly interested in Vuc before.

Giddey Kuminga and Matas could be the basis of a strong offense, and if you put Lonzo in the starting lineup and Smith/Collins at the 5 defense would be... manageable. Let's not forget Billy coached a top 5 defensive team with Zach DeMar and Vuc playing 33 minutes a game each.

Dominator83 wrote:Well, im certainly glad theres no chatter at all about what was mentioned on ESPN radio earlier. They were talking about rumors of the Bulls in talks to trade #12 for....... RJ Barrett. gross

My immediate thought was, "Boy, we really are the Isiah Thomas Knicks". Thankfully i see nothing anywhere else about that.

I'm only interested in Barrett if Toronto is salary dumping him with multiple picks attached. :noway: Dude is Andrew Wiggins 2.0.


I would probably be more open to Barrett if we're swapping out Patrick :lol:
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#43 » by nomorezorro » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:45 pm

bad news for anyone who wanted to swing a trade for him

Read on Twitter


good news for anyone who wants to fantasize about a potential dereck lively trade? (or...pj washington, i guess?)
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Post#44 » by burlydee » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:50 am

nomorezorro wrote:bad news for anyone who wanted to swing a trade for him

Read on Twitter


good news for anyone who wants to fantasize about a potential dereck lively trade? (or...pj washington, i guess?)


He's eligible to be traded immediately. I'd consider Coby for Gafford or Lively for Coby. Not sure which way the draft compensation should go.
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Post#45 » by kodo » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:09 am

nomorezorro wrote:bad news for anyone who wanted to swing a trade for him
good news for anyone who wants to fantasize about a potential dereck lively trade? (or...pj washington, i guess?)

There's no way they're keeping Daniel and moving Lively.
When both were healthy, Dallas started both Lively and AD. This really doesn't mean anything for Lively.
PJ Washington is probably out though.
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Post#46 » by boozapalooza » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:13 am

Read on Twitter


Gonna repost the KC video again because his comments on Kuminga/Giddey are important. Hes hearing BKN is gonna save their cap space. This means we may be bidding against ourselves for Giddey. Might get a more reasonable deal there if AK learned anything.

Also on Kuminga, sounds like up to GS to show if they really value him.
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Post#47 » by sco » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:30 pm

boozapalooza wrote:
Read on Twitter


Gonna repost the KC video again because his comments on Kuminga/Giddey are important. Hes hearing BKN is gonna save their cap space. This means we may be bidding against ourselves for Giddey. Might get a more reasonable deal there if AK learned anything.

Also on Kuminga, sounds like up to GS to show if they really value him.

It's hard to decipher fact from smoke here. Vuc would be such a great pick-up for GS, but the $ make a trade for Kuminga very hard. I'd be fine with a PWill deal for Kuminga though. Pat would be a better fit for what GS wants. Kuminga for anything around $20M would be fine. At worst he's a very good 6th man, and that is probably fair at $20M, best case he's a legit #1/#2 option and worth $30M+.
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Post#48 » by MrSparkle » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:32 pm

Simple/easy idea… split MLE offer for Kornet?

Boston is way up in 2nd apron hell, so anything more than his $2.5M salary is very costly for them.

Very efficient low-minute, plus-rating player. Maybe it had more to do with Boston’s defensive armada, but who knows? Interesting to me that he has stopped shooting 3Ps.. but his offensive efficiency is very high. 16/3 with a club option/non guaranteed y3 sounds fair.
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#49 » by NecessaryEvil » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:41 pm

burlydee wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:bad news for anyone who wanted to swing a trade for him

Read on Twitter


good news for anyone who wants to fantasize about a potential dereck lively trade? (or...pj washington, i guess?)


He's eligible to be traded immediately. I'd consider Coby for Gafford or Lively for Coby. Not sure which way the draft compensation should go.


Coby for who?!?

Hell no
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Post#50 » by MrSparkle » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:06 pm

There is no reason for Chicago to pursue a $20M Gafford.

Golden rules for Centers: buy low, underpay.
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#51 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:29 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:Everyone here hates Kuminga, but whenever I see him play I see future star. This guy is going to average 25 a game if he is ever unleashed.

I don't hate Kuminga, I'm not a huge fan that he's about to get a huge pay day without really showing too much. If the Bulls get him, they'll likely have him and Giddey on 30m per year deals and that's going to probably mean that Coby is gone as I doubt they'll pay 3 players the same big money. (I'm OK with trading Coby, btw).

I actually like Kuminga and was lobbying trading for him last season and (maybe?) the season before.

Kuminga needs to work hard on his shooting (if only the Bulls had a shooting coach that was good with young players and had proven record of improving their shots...) and become at least adequate on defence. He has tremendous talent and athleticism, he just needs to work on the basic basketball skills and he can be a beast, IMO.


The only way I consider trading for Kuminga is if it's for PW. I'd hate for the Bulls to get Kuminga and then end up with two duds (not saying PW and Kuminga will be bad, but it's a possibility).

Also, if he's so good then why does GS want to trade him?



They just seem to not like him and don't want to pay him. That means he isn't that good, but he also might not be as bad as he looks in GSW. I still see a ceiling of Jermai Grant as being optimistic. I think he can be pretty serviceable, but I smell more of a Kuzma than even a Grant.
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#52 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:32 pm

MrSparkle wrote:There is no reason for Chicago to pursue a $20M Gafford.

Golden rules for Centers: buy low, underpay.



Since Lively and AD are oft injured I think they keep Gafford anyway and maybe try to shift Lively honestly. I don't think a 20 mil Gafford is a horrid idea but yeah not the best use of capspace. Not the worst either.
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Post#53 » by drosestruts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:57 pm

If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

Precious Achiuwa - Unsure New York can afford to keep him, kind of a small ball center option

Jake LaRavia - on paper a floor spacing 4, on the court that's yet to materialize

Nickeil Walker-Alexander - 3&D guard

Ty Jerome - had a breakout year with the Cavs
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Post#54 » by sco » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:14 pm

drosestruts wrote:If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

Precious Achiuwa - Unsure New York can afford to keep him, kind of a small ball center option

Jake LaRavia - on paper a floor spacing 4, on the court that's yet to materialize

Nickeil Walker-Alexander - 3&D guard

Ty Jerome - had a breakout year with the Cavs

I'd love to nab Precious. He's played great on both ends whenever he got the chance in NY. His only "limitation" is that he isn't a good 3pt shooter.

If somehow we were able to shed Vuc, Precious would be a great add. He and Smith are both good 4/5's.
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Post#55 » by Hangtime84 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:23 pm

drosestruts wrote:If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

Precious Achiuwa - Unsure New York can afford to keep him, kind of a small ball center option

Jake LaRavia - on paper a floor spacing 4, on the court that's yet to materialize

Nickeil Walker-Alexander - 3&D guard

Ty Jerome - had a breakout year with the Cavs


No to kai jones head case and distraction.
LaRivera - yes please
Ty Jerome - he also trains with dribblestoomuch would be my MLE target that push one our guards out the rotation
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Post#56 » by Muzbar » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:16 pm

drosestruts wrote:If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

I'd much rather trade up to 5 to draft Beringer than have Kai Jones' toxicity anywhere near this team and I hate Beringer as a prospect.
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Post#57 » by drosestruts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:20 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:
drosestruts wrote:If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

Precious Achiuwa - Unsure New York can afford to keep him, kind of a small ball center option

Jake LaRavia - on paper a floor spacing 4, on the court that's yet to materialize

Nickeil Walker-Alexander - 3&D guard

Ty Jerome - had a breakout year with the Cavs


No to kai jones head case and distraction.
LaRivera - yes please
Ty Jerome - he also trains with dribblestoomuch would be my MLE target that push one our guards out the rotation
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drosestruts wrote:If we want to keep going with the acquire young players wh oare maybe late bloomers approach to free agency our targets there should be:

Kai Jones - why wait to develop Beringer, get a similar athlete who's already been putting in the development work and is years ahead of Bereinger

I'd much rather trade up to 5 to draft Beringer than have Kai Jones' toxicity anywhere near this team and I hate Beringer as a prospect.


Feel like these are some harsh views on Kai Jones who no doubt flamed out with Charlotte in 2023.

Since then he's played with the Clippers and Mavs and seems to have been issue free at both stops.


Jones' alleged substance abuse issues were certainly a problem for him. I'm not sure it ever had any effect on his team as a whole.

I don't view him as a threat to be a distraction or toxic
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#58 » by boozapalooza » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:21 pm

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2025/06/24/could-bulls-have-aces-up-the-sleeve-nba-draft-approaches

Cowley says the Bulls top trade priority is PWill. They are done with him. He says if we draft a wing, our attention will be on moving him.

Also says AK has been more realistic with other GMs in trade talks than in the past
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Post#59 » by boundbymusic » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:26 pm

boozapalooza wrote:https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2025/06/24/could-bulls-have-aces-up-the-sleeve-nba-draft-approaches

Cowley says the Bulls top trade priority is PWill. They are done with him. He says if we draft a wing, our attention will be on moving him.

Also says AK has been more realistic with other GMs in trade talks than in the past


Gonna be total Bulls to trade PWill (yeay!) but in a deal for Beal (OHH NO)
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Post#60 » by Dan Z » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:28 pm

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Muzbar wrote:I don't hate Kuminga, I'm not a huge fan that he's about to get a huge pay day without really showing too much. If the Bulls get him, they'll likely have him and Giddey on 30m per year deals and that's going to probably mean that Coby is gone as I doubt they'll pay 3 players the same big money. (I'm OK with trading Coby, btw).

I actually like Kuminga and was lobbying trading for him last season and (maybe?) the season before.

Kuminga needs to work hard on his shooting (if only the Bulls had a shooting coach that was good with young players and had proven record of improving their shots...) and become at least adequate on defence. He has tremendous talent and athleticism, he just needs to work on the basic basketball skills and he can be a beast, IMO.


The only way I consider trading for Kuminga is if it's for PW. I'd hate for the Bulls to get Kuminga and then end up with two duds (not saying PW and Kuminga will be bad, but it's a possibility).

Also, if he's so good then why does GS want to trade him?



They just seem to not like him and don't want to pay him. That means he isn't that good, but he also might not be as bad as he looks in GSW. I still see a ceiling of Jermai Grant as being optimistic. I think he can be pretty serviceable, but I smell more of a Kuzma than even a Grant.


If a franchise like GS (who have won multiple championships) don't think he's good enough to keep then why should the Bulls think he'll be better in Chicago?

I agree that he's not a bad player and do think he has upside, but I'd limit my risk by offering PW. I don't want the Bulls to get stuck with contracts that are no good and the only way out of them is to give up future assets to do so. There's a possibility of that with Kuminga and PW.

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