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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

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Post#482 » by Prez » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:18 pm

What always bothers me about our 2021 title and the way it gets talked about is that they basically get zero credit for beating the dog **** out of Miami in that run. Miami's record was a bit worse than usual due to Jimmy missing like 30 games that year but in the games he played they won at a 52 win pace, likely even better if you look at games where Bam/Herro were in the lineup as well. Jimmy/Bam/Herro all played in that series, Dragic was still pretty good, Spo was still their coach, and the Bucks utterly dismantled them.
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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

Post#483 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:20 pm

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BUCKnation wrote:Also, it's crazy were going straight into the draft. I keep forgetting they have day 2 for the second round now. Like what's the point though when it's on a Thursday afternoon.


A two day draft is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure who came up with that idea, but obviously they worked for the NFL.

I don't think its a bad idea, but why put the 2nd round in the afternoon on a workday.

Both rounds are at 7 p.m. CDT
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Post#484 » by Mags FTW » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:20 pm

NFL 2nd rounders are a lock to make their respective teams, and usually stay in the league for at least the entirety of their initial contract. Many become perennial Pro Bowlers/stars.

NBA 2nd rounders have nowhere near this amount of relevancy, and it seems dumb to have their own day. However, the people that run the numbers must have determined that the 2nd round of the draft will get higher ratings than whatever else they would run on a weeknight in late June.
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Post#485 » by GoldenAntlers » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:23 pm

Mags FTW wrote:NFL 2nd rounders are a lock to make their respective teams, and usually stay in the league for at least the entirety of their initial contract. Many become perennial Pro Bowlers/stars.

NBA 2nd rounders have nowhere near this amount of relevancy, and it seems dumb to have their own day. However, the people that run the numbers must have determined that the 2nd round of the draft will get higher ratings than whatever else they would run on a weeknight in late June.
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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

Post#486 » by BUCKnation » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:33 pm

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A two day draft is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure who came up with that idea, but obviously they worked for the NFL.

I don't think its a bad idea, but why put the 2nd round in the afternoon on a workday.

Both rounds are at 7 p.m. CDT

Ah, must have seen something from last year
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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

Post#487 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:46 pm

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BUCKnation wrote:Also, it's crazy were going straight into the draft. I keep forgetting they have day 2 for the second round now. Like what's the point though when it's on a Thursday afternoon.


A two day draft is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure who came up with that idea, but obviously they worked for the NFL.

I don't think its a bad idea, but why put the 2nd round in the afternoon on a workday.

I thought this was done more to allow trades than actual TV coverage. Still weird they don't have it at night but maybe even the NBA execs were like yeah... I got better things to do in the summer
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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

Post#488 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:01 pm

I can't think of a single thing that Silver has implemented that's actually been beneficial/improved the overall product of the sport he's paid millions of dollars to oversee. Even flattening the lottery odds, which I initially thought would be a good thing, has backfired spectacularly as it's done nothing to curb tanking and has only increased the likelihood of an undeserving team being rewarded with the #1 overall pick. Day 2 of the NBA Draft is the perfect symbol of his legacy as commissioner. He's more concerned about gimmicky crap and unnecessary bloat/content while doing nothing to fix a league that's struggling to adapt to ever evolving player and competition issues (scheduling/load management, frequency of debilitating injuries, flopping/foul grifting, homogenous playstyles/3PT spamming).
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Post#489 » by soxperry » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:11 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Maybe someone else said it but what a genius insurance trade by Indy getting their 2026 1st back the second before disaster hit. New Orleans has to be absolutely kicking themselves, and it's not like they didn't know this was a possibility because they made the deal after Haliburton was diagnosed with the severe calf strain.


Why would they be kicking themselves? Even without Haliburton, the Pacers will put together a good season. They just lost their top end potential. Instead of competing for a 1 or 2 seed they will compete to stay out of the play in. But that is absolutely not a lottery team. They would have to trigger a full rebuild and get rid of all their try hards for that pick to have gained a ton of value.

And thats with the benefit of hindsight. In the moment, you do that trade 10 times out of 10 if your New Orleans. Sometimes things just happen.
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Post#490 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:25 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Maybe someone else said it but what a genius insurance trade by Indy getting their 2026 1st back the second before disaster hit. New Orleans has to be absolutely kicking themselves, and it's not like they didn't know this was a possibility because they made the deal after Haliburton was diagnosed with the severe calf strain.


Why would they be kicking themselves? Even without Haliburton, the Pacers will put together a good season. They just lost their top end potential. Instead of competing for a 1 or 2 seed they will compete to stay out of the play in. But that is absolutely not a lottery team. They would have to trigger a full rebuild and get rid of all their try hards for that pick to have gained a ton of value.

And thats with the benefit of hindsight. In the moment, you do that trade 10 times out of 10 if your New Orleans. Sometimes things just happen.


That Indy pick only had Top-4 protection on it and they just traded it for #23. That's a scorching hot take unless you think the Pacers are gonna win like, 55-games without Haliburton for the entire season next year.
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Post#492 » by Bernman » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:30 pm

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Buyout pickup and the deadline then. We'd primarily want him for the playoffs anyway. Maybe we could actually get a useful buyout guy this time, as opposed to all the others. This one we have a built-in on and of court relationship to potentially get priority, performance.
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Re: ATL - KD dealt to Rockets for Green, Dillon Brooks, 10th pick and 2nds 

Post#494 » by BroncoBuck » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:57 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Maybe someone else said it but what a genius insurance trade by Indy getting their 2026 1st back the second before disaster hit. New Orleans has to be absolutely kicking themselves, and it's not like they didn't know this was a possibility because they made the deal after Haliburton was diagnosed with the severe calf strain.


Why would they be kicking themselves? Even without Haliburton, the Pacers will put together a good season. They just lost their top end potential. Instead of competing for a 1 or 2 seed they will compete to stay out of the play in. But that is absolutely not a lottery team. They would have to trigger a full rebuild and get rid of all their try hards for that pick to have gained a ton of value.

And thats with the benefit of hindsight. In the moment, you do that trade 10 times out of 10 if your New Orleans. Sometimes things just happen.


That Indy pick only had Top-4 protection on it and they just traded it for #23. That's a scorching hot take unless you think the Pacers are gonna win like, 55-games without Haliburton for the entire season next year.


I’m interested to see what kind of bag Turner gets this summer. He was playing great in the playoffs up until the Finals where he was brutal. I could see that Pacers team falling off like the Hawks the moment they start handing out these contracts.
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Post#495 » by tonyreyes123 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:33 pm

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Buyout pickup and the deadline then. We'd primarily want him for the playoffs anyway. Maybe we could actually get a useful buyout guy this time, as opposed to all the others. This one we have a built-in on and of court relationship to potentially get priority, performance.



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Post#496 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:41 pm

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Post#497 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:49 pm

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Buyout pickup and the deadline then. We'd primarily want him for the playoffs anyway. Maybe we could actually get a useful buyout guy this time, as opposed to all the others. This one we have a built-in on and of court relationship to potentially get priority, performance.


buy out candidate sure. alot depends on if he even gives **** anymore as to whether hed help
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Post#498 » by Baddy Chuck » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:52 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:buy out candidate sure. alot depends on if he even gives **** anymore as to whether hed help

A year ago he was out there on bum ankles trying to will this team to a series win without Giannis (and Dame). I dunno how people question his heart. Body sure, go all out.
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Post#499 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:52 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I can't think of a single thing that Silver has implemented that's actually been beneficial/improved the overall product of the sport he's paid millions of dollars to oversee. Even flattening the lottery odds, which I initially thought would be a good thing, has backfired spectacularly as it's done nothing to curb tanking and has only increased the likelihood of an undeserving team being rewarded with the #1 overall pick. Day 2 of the NBA Draft is the perfect symbol of his legacy as commissioner. He's more concerned about gimmicky crap and unnecessary bloat/content while doing nothing to fix a league that's struggling to adapt to ever evolving player and competition issues (scheduling/load management, frequency of debilitating injuries, flopping/foul grifting, homogenous playstyles/3PT spamming).


tanking is gross. if it takes a second for teams to try for the play in than it takes a minute
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Post#500 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:55 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:buy out candidate sure. alot depends on if he even gives **** anymore as to whether hed help

A year ago he was out there on bum ankles trying to will this team to a series win without Giannis (and Dame). I dunno how people question his heart. Body sure, go all out.


hes my favorite buck ever so there is that with that comment. i just think reg season or even more than a week of "trying to will anything" isnt just a chore its impossible for him at this point. id give alot to be wrong. khash money even

if he signed with us and anything whateoever still in the tank id go bonkers to have him

i just think he knows hes done. thats the sense i get. thats where i was going with it

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