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chrisab123 wrote:SparringPartner wrote:chrisab123 wrote:
I have a feeling something very unexpected is going to happen. Watch Memphis and New Orleans.
Suggesting Ja & Zion moves?
I think one of the two get moved. Not sure to Boston but there’s always been the whispers about Zion and the need to get him out of New Orleans due to his love for the food there. Seriously
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Hmmmm I still think they can be a Jrue team so FVV would have to go I'd imagine
SparringPartner wrote:celtxman wrote:I'd rather keep KP for now. Bobby Marks says his value is low right now. Since the market is baking in his illness in trades, I'd rather see this through. At that point an extension may be a possibility, maybe lower than you suggest.
I’m a sell high guy, so I can’t agree with you more. Not the right time to trade KP. Really like your point about FIBA. Let’s see where’s he’s at after that tournament, then make some decisions.
On losing to the NYK. I hate it because it’s an excuse. KP wasn’t available a lot last year in the playoffs. It’s a straw man argument to me. The C’s shouldn’t have gone down 0-2 to NYK no matter what. If it was the first time, then fine, no big deal. The real problem, to me, is that sort of outcome continues to happen. The common denominators are Brad, JT, JB. An unpopular take, but that’s how I see it.
165bows wrote:"I think that criticism is stupid" Brad Stevens, 2024.
celtxman wrote:SparringPartner wrote:celtxman wrote:I'd rather keep KP for now. Bobby Marks says his value is low right now. Since the market is baking in his illness in trades, I'd rather see this through. At that point an extension may be a possibility, maybe lower than you suggest.
I’m a sell high guy, so I can’t agree with you more. Not the right time to trade KP. Really like your point about FIBA. Let’s see where’s he’s at after that tournament, then make some decisions.
On losing to the NYK. I hate it because it’s an excuse. KP wasn’t available a lot last year in the playoffs. It’s a straw man argument to me. The C’s shouldn’t have gone down 0-2 to NYK no matter what. If it was the first time, then fine, no big deal. The real problem, to me, is that sort of outcome continues to happen. The common denominators are Brad, JT, JB. An unpopular take, but that’s how I see it.
I totally agree that the Celtics (Tatum, Brown, Mazzulla and the rest of the gang) choked in that series. 100%. They deserve all of the blame they can get. My point is that they don't lose with Porzingis, which is more a point about his value. They had a real chance to go all the way. Was there anything we saw in the Finals that showed OKC to be invincible
Last year's playoffs? The Celtics were a better team with KP injured than Miami, Indiana, and Cleveland were with significant injuries. When they met Dallas, KP punched them in the mouth in Game 1 with 20 points in 20 minutes and Dallas never got off of the mat.
To me injuries matter. They mostly helped us last year (they certainly helped OKC this year) but the Celtics absolutely gave away that Knicks series and still need to look in the mirror.
I'm not quite as harsh in total, but the NY loss certainly was horrible.playa-hater wrote:celtxman wrote:SparringPartner wrote:
I’m a sell high guy, so I can’t agree with you more. Not the right time to trade KP. Really like your point about FIBA. Let’s see where’s he’s at after that tournament, then make some decisions.
On losing to the NYK. I hate it because it’s an excuse. KP wasn’t available a lot last year in the playoffs. It’s a straw man argument to me. The C’s shouldn’t have gone down 0-2 to NYK no matter what. If it was the first time, then fine, no big deal. The real problem, to me, is that sort of outcome continues to happen. The common denominators are Brad, JT, JB. An unpopular take, but that’s how I see it.
I totally agree that the Celtics (Tatum, Brown, Mazzulla and the rest of the gang) choked in that series. 100%. They deserve all of the blame they can get. My point is that they don't lose with Porzingis, which is more a point about his value. They had a real chance to go all the way. Was there anything we saw in the Finals that showed OKC to be invincible
Last year's playoffs? The Celtics were a better team with KP injured than Miami, Indiana, and Cleveland were with significant injuries. When they met Dallas, KP punched them in the mouth in Game 1 with 20 points in 20 minutes and Dallas never got off of the mat.
To me injuries matter. They mostly helped us last year (they certainly helped OKC this year) but the Celtics absolutely gave away that Knicks series and still need to look in the mirror.
Yes they can be beaten. But our style of play, meaning poor ball movement/Low IQ/ ISO centric/chuck 3 fest may have resulted in a blowout in Favor of OKC. And MR. Can't make in game adjustments Joe, would have taken a miracle to win IMO.
And You know Joe would have played Al and Kornet in there together.
Celticlifer wrote:Yes it was bad. As bad as getting swept in 83 by the Bucks? With Bird, McHale and Parish? As losing to the Bullets in 75? Sometimes great teams have a bad series, especially when they're not healthy.
djFan71 wrote:Just pivot back to PJ from Dallas. It's where we all started before T&T board made it Gafford.
GoCeltics123 wrote:djFan71 wrote:Just pivot back to PJ from Dallas. It's where we all started before T&T board made it Gafford.
fallguy wrote:I know everyone hates Jalen Green. And you're not exactly wrong. But he's probably still going to outperform almost everyone in the top-15 of this year's draft over the next 2-3 years.
WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Gafford resigned to the mavericks 3/60. Which makes a deal with Jrue to the Mavericks tougher now.
