Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Moderators: bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285, Clav, ken6199, Domejandro
Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,054
- And1: 13,615
- Joined: Jun 10, 2023
-
Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
It's crazy how we all view Jokic as the best player in basketball, yet nobody who becomes available wants to play with Jokic in Denver.
KD didn't even have Denver on his radar. If I were in his shoes I would desperately be trying to team up with Jokic.
I don't understand these stars man. Is it really about championships or does location matter more.
Why aren't stars trying to go to Denver and play with the best player in the world?
KD didn't even have Denver on his radar. If I were in his shoes I would desperately be trying to team up with Jokic.
I don't understand these stars man. Is it really about championships or does location matter more.
Why aren't stars trying to go to Denver and play with the best player in the world?
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Thaddy
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,414
- And1: 3,706
- Joined: Dec 12, 2022
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Maybe if they weren't paying Murray and MPJ? They have no chips to bargain with.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,999
- And1: 2,752
- Joined: Jul 06, 2009
- Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,054
- And1: 13,615
- Joined: Jun 10, 2023
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,292
- And1: 2,556
- Joined: Jul 13, 2018
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
It's not Jokic
Most NBA players don't want to play in Denver
Most NBA players don't want to play in Denver
PlayinTourney4Lyfe
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,054
- And1: 13,615
- Joined: Jun 10, 2023
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Bulliever2020 wrote:It's not Jokic
Most NBA players don't want to play in Denver
What's wrong with Denver?
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,647
- And1: 1,837
- Joined: Aug 30, 2021
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
I dont recall denver having a lotto pick to trade.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- DoctaJ
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,713
- And1: 458
- Joined: Dec 11, 2006
- Location: Calgary, AB
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
Houston had a #10 pick to dangle (which reportedly Phoenix was high on). Please tell me what comparable pick DEN has/had to offer?
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,451
- And1: 3,000
- Joined: Jun 29, 2021
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Thaddy wrote:Maybe if they weren't paying Murray and MPJ? They have no chips to bargain with.
Yeah, but that doesn’t stop players from wanting to go to Miami.
If we’re talking about other stars and why they don’t want to go to Denver there’s a few reasons.
1. Denver. not a lot of nba stars want to be there
2. Culture. These guys team up with players they got to know growing up in AAU or with team USA or whatever. Pre established relationships. Same culture. Easier to relate to one another.
3. Hubris. Anyone going to Denver is automatically the second option. It’s admitting you’re not the best.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 66,026
- And1: 60,832
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
I didn't know Denver had a top-10 pick this year.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,999
- And1: 2,752
- Joined: Jul 06, 2009
- Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
Which lotto pick did they have? Or what PHX picks do they have? Why would the Suns want MPJ over Green(not that Suns fans want Green )?
There was no realistic trade there the Suns would want.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,832
- And1: 2,009
- Joined: Jun 24, 2018
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:It's crazy how we all view Jokic as the best player in basketball, yet nobody who becomes available wants to play with Jokic in Denver.
KD didn't even have Denver on his radar. If I were in his shoes I would desperately be trying to team up with Jokic.
I don't understand these stars man. Is it really about championships or does location matter more.
Why aren't stars trying to go to Denver and play with the best player in the world?
What does Denver have that Suns want? Why would they want MPJ? MPJ is who he is. You can argue Green still can get better. They also had no picks.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 66,026
- And1: 60,832
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Bulliever2020 wrote:It's not Jokic
Most NBA players don't want to play in Denver
What's wrong with Denver?
It's kind of cold, it's smallish, and it's perceived as a boring town.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Optms
- RealGM
- Posts: 23,525
- And1: 19,861
- Joined: Jun 11, 2009
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Denver are the basically Bucks of the West. Maybe worse. At least Bucks managed to lure Lillard.
Rockets have a brighter future. Elite coach, great young players and a better culture.
Rockets have a brighter future. Elite coach, great young players and a better culture.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,351
- And1: 2,175
- Joined: Mar 08, 2018
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
1. Denver doesn’t have the flexibility due to dumb management decisions.
2. Star players who move around a lot are guys who typically don’t win and care more about location than anything else.
2. Star players who move around a lot are guys who typically don’t win and care more about location than anything else.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Ckay
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,665
- And1: 8,901
- Joined: Feb 29, 2012
- Location: going going, back back, to Cali Cali
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,724
- And1: 12,644
- Joined: Nov 24, 2015
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
I just think they dont have a way to acquire these guys. the 2nd apron makes the trades really challenging as well. It was the same thing with dirk. There were a lot of the same narratives, about euro, white, players not wanting to win. its really just that the nuggets are in perpetual win now mode, and they will struggle to have competitive assets in a trade.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,762
- And1: 1,464
- Joined: Dec 23, 2023
- Location: Clearwater, FL
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
Could just be a case of small market woes. Out of all the teams that are considered small market, many either don't have championships or at least not enough to be considered a dynasty. The one exception is the Spurs but even they built primarily through the draft. The jury is out on how long OKC can sustain themselves.
Face it, small markets just don't appeal to free agents. Not the major ones anyway.
Face it, small markets just don't appeal to free agents. Not the major ones anyway.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,651
- And1: 18,670
- Joined: Aug 30, 2012
-
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
JustBuzzin wrote:Phystic wrote:And how exactly would KD have gotten to Denver?
MPJ + picks.
No different than Green + picks
KD doesn't want to be second fiddle. He wants to be the man in the next place he goes.
Also MPJ has worse value than Green, even tho both are negative value players. Plus Houston had a lotto pick to trade. Dillon Brooks is useful too.
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
- Lalouie
- RealGM
- Posts: 23,018
- And1: 12,257
- Joined: May 12, 2017
Re: Why don't stars want to play with Jokic in Denver?
because it's denver
refering to kd....kd has been a all time pro for almost 20yrs. he's got 2rings
not only why would he want to spend his last days in DENVER, but as a tag along with gsw and a failure at two other teams, maybe he wants to rectify that with helping a young team of pups.
it ain't happening but,,,,just saying
refering to kd....kd has been a all time pro for almost 20yrs. he's got 2rings
not only why would he want to spend his last days in DENVER, but as a tag along with gsw and a failure at two other teams, maybe he wants to rectify that with helping a young team of pups.
it ain't happening but,,,,just saying