Kerb Hohl wrote:Yeah, I'm typically a Fangraphs guy because it does do the right thing (i.e. K/BB being a major indicator) but it's not going to capture what the whole team is putting together. Jose Quintana with a **** defense behind him and/or being relied upon to go too deep into a game or whatever is not as valuable as how the Brewers use him and why they acquired him.
Fangraphs is great and my favorite website/tool, but it's also not a professional analytics department so it's always a little pessimistic on what the Brewers actually do because they're smart.
I think this is fair. Fangraphs does a decent job of showing what a player might do in general on a random unnamed team. They don't do a great job of identifying the specifics of team fit and skillset. And this goes for both hitters and pitchers.
For example, Quinn Priester & Brice Turang are a great fit together. Priester induces a ton of ground balls and weak contact and Turang is excellent at converting those to outs. Priester would be less valuable with a worse defense behind him and Turang would be less valuable for a pitcher who doesn't need a great 2B. But together they are quite valuable as a fit.
B-Ref imo does a better job of showing why the Brewers are actually winning games. Turang & Durbin's defense, pitchers like Quintana & Priester's ability to induce that weak contact, etc. There is more to success than just hitting a bunch of Home Runs or striking batters out and the Brewers are excellent at finding those players and having success with them
Coach Drew: "Milwaukee has always been a team that I have been intrigued by. When we played them, they were a tough team for us to play. Although we did beat them all four times"