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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1721 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:31 am

The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.


Pretty early in the offseason to surmise nothing is going to get done and we're just running it back as is.
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Post#1722 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:33 am

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so RJ + 9 for what? What team would want that package?
Sac? thats overpay for Monk Or Murry and something else
Boston? for Porzingis or White
Bulls? Lonzo, Ayo and Jalen Smith?
Clips? Zubac but why for them
Phx? Brooks + something
Portland? they got some pieces I like but I don't know if they would want this package. I like Deni alot with rob maybe or if we can finesse get deni and camara or clingan but doubt that happens

I don't really see any amazing trades
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Post#1723 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:35 am

This was a fun thread until Durant got traded. Now it’s wild fantasy trade proposals based on nothing lol
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1724 » by Duffman100 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:36 am

The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.


Bro it's not even July.
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Post#1725 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:41 am

Duffman100 wrote:
The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.


Bro it's not even July.


Yeah, the Finals literally just ended. We have time.
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Post#1726 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:44 am

I am intrigued by the odds that showed RJ ending up in Portland. If we can get a lottery pick for him, that would be a steal. There are a couple of defensive guys who fit this team better beside IQ and Ingram.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1727 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:47 am

Tha Cynic wrote:I am intrigued by the odds that showed RJ ending up in Portland. If we can get a lottery pick for him, that would be a steal. There are a couple of defensive guys who fit this team better beside IQ and Ingram.

Yea to me that's the only team with stuff I like that we could reasonably get. But do they want RJ? I don't think I so
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1728 » by The Duke » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:50 am

Duffman100 wrote:
The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.


Bro it's not even July.


I understand, but btw … I don’t think that just staying at #9 taking a guy … and effectively running it back with the current roster, is necessarily a bad move… given the state of the roster (now). That wouldn’t surprise me. I don’t think we should be going after a ‘big fish’, given the expected cost to us.
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Post#1729 » by TakeYourHeart » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:40 am

Asif16 wrote:I think another reason why Rj is showing up in trade rumors, is because Masai probably knows that he's a really bad fit next to the Ingram/Scottie/Poetl front court.

RJ can't space the floor and is heavily reliant on drives to the basket to be efficient. Considering Ingram and Scottie are going to be primarily ball handlers and rim attackers, RJ is redundant.

It just makes to swap him for another younger player that fits. It's probably why we're linked to guys like Cam Johnson and Malik Monk because they can space the floor better

Could not disagree more with this assessment of RJ.

RJ and Yak developed their pick and roll chemistry last season and RJ-Jak PnR was more effective than Scottie-Jak PnR.

RJ is the only player on this team that can put pressure on the rim. BI doesn't get to the rim often but he's a good midrange scorer. RJ attacks the rim but he has no midrange. So they actually compliment each other really well. Scottie can't get to the rim like RJ and he's a worse midrange scorer than BI.

RJ was is a 40% corner 3 point shooter and a decent off ball cutter. Scottie was a 34% corner 3 point shooter.

Offensively, RJ fits really well. Like let's be honest...Scottie's inefficiency and general baglessness is the singular thing causing fit issues on the roster. If Scottie could become a decent shooter everything falls into place.
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Post#1730 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:42 am

Maybe we can get Jrue from Portland now
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Post#1731 » by HumbleRen » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:20 am

So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.
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Post#1732 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:28 am

HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

Need to find a deal with a team like Sacramento
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Post#1733 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:29 am

HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.
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Post#1734 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:31 am

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Post#1735 » by HumbleRen » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:33 am

Zeno wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.
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Post#1736 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:34 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


Milwaukee is desperate for offense..
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Post#1737 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:37 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


lol or we can just keep him?
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Post#1738 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:39 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


Milwaukee is desperate for offense..

I am not doing Kuzma for RJ. lol
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Post#1739 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:40 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


Milwaukee is desperate for offense..


I'm sure they would love to dump Kuzma on us for him.
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Post#1740 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:40 am

Zeno wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


Milwaukee is desperate for offense..

I am not doing Kuzma for RJ. lol


Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people on here would

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