OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Xatticus]

@kizzfastfist owes Presti an apology!

Congrats everyone!

Nah. Presti was the only thing standing between us an a 98-0 season.

[Devilanche]

@kizzfastfist owes Presti an apology!

Congrats everyone!

This is outcome fallacy though.

We still have areas that can be majorly upgraded come the playoffs.

With that being said . Draft is coming up soon .

[The Servant]

@kizzfastfist owes Presti an apology!

Congrats everyone!

This is outcome fallacy though.

We still have areas that can be majorly upgraded come the playoffs.

With that being said . Draft is coming up soon .

Need a player to defend the Siakam type players out there. Topic coming back will be a nice bench addition to run along side Jdub when Shai sits.

[Devilanche]

@kizzfastfist owes Presti an apology!

Congrats everyone!

This is outcome fallacy though.

We still have areas that can be majorly upgraded come the playoffs.

With that being said . Draft is coming up soon .

Need a player to defend the Siakam type players out there. Topic coming back will be a nice bench addition to run along side Jdub when Shai sits.

Every time I look at the trade market , I keep coming back to Deni Avdija , PJ Washington , Cam
Johnson as a PF options . All 3 offering different skill sets and all 3 probably worthy of more minutes than we do have .

[Kizz Fastfists]

OKC's championship has been voided on account of their inability to properly pop the champagne. They will have to win it again next year to show they are truly worthy of being called champions.

P.S. This is what us old folks call satire. If you are a child that doesn't know what satire is you can be educated by a book called a dictionary.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Every time I look at the trade market , I keep coming back to Deni Avdija , PJ Washington , Cam
Johnson as a PF options . All 3 offering different skill sets and all 3 probably worthy of more minutes than we do have .

I'll be surprised if Presti does anything like that. I expect him to trade out of the draft for future picks and/or pick swaps and run it back next year. Maybe he uses #24 to dump Dieng and then makes a pick at #15, but that is the most roster movement I expect this off-season.

[spearsy23]

I think he has to make at least one pick each year to attempt to keep cheap playoff ready role players on the system two years down the line. Moving forward I'm expecting (hoping for?) swings at guys like Justin Anderson rather than poku.

[Devilanche]

Every time I look at the trade market , I keep coming back to Deni Avdija , PJ Washington , Cam
Johnson as a PF options . All 3 offering different skill sets and all 3 probably worthy of more minutes than we do have .

I'll be surprised if Presti does anything like that. I expect him to trade out of the draft for future picks and/or pick swaps and run it back next year. Maybe he uses #24 to dump Dieng and then makes a pick at #15, but that is the most roster movement I expect this off-season.

Yea that’s the most likely outcome .
Draft one
Trade one for future
Dump Dieng

I’m hopeful there’s one more move somehow . Trade one of our guy for a vet somewhere. But I’m hopeful every offseason and mostly disappointed by the non-moves in most offseason.

[Dadouv47]

Every time I look at the trade market , I keep coming back to Deni Avdija , PJ Washington , Cam
Johnson as a PF options . All 3 offering different skill sets and all 3 probably worthy of more minutes than we do have .

I'll be surprised if Presti does anything like that. I expect him to trade out of the draft for future picks and/or pick swaps and run it back next year. Maybe he uses #24 to dump Dieng and then makes a pick at #15, but that is the most roster movement I expect this off-season.

Yea that’s the most likely outcome .
Draft one
Trade one for future
Dump Dieng

I’m hopeful there’s one more move somehow . Trade one of our guy for a vet somewhere. But I’m hopeful every offseason and mostly disappointed by the non-moves in most offseason.

same but can't deny that we have money issue long term and that's maybe why Presti will ultimately decide to keep a guy like Joe instead of trading him and Dieng for a 18 millions/year+ player

[Devilanche]

I'll be surprised if Presti does anything like that. I expect him to trade out of the draft for future picks and/or pick swaps and run it back next year. Maybe he uses #24 to dump Dieng and then makes a pick at #15, but that is the most roster movement I expect this off-season.

Yea that’s the most likely outcome .
Draft one
Trade one for future
Dump Dieng

I’m hopeful there’s one more move somehow . Trade one of our guy for a vet somewhere. But I’m hopeful every offseason and mostly disappointed by the non-moves in most offseason.

same but can't deny that we have money issue long term and that's maybe why Presti will ultimately decide to keep a guy like Joe instead of trading him and Dieng for a 18 millions/year+ player

Joe is in that 11-12m salary slot . Is there anyone better we can get for similar salary (probably up to 15m)

[spearsy23]

Yea that’s the most likely outcome .
Draft one
Trade one for future
Dump Dieng

I’m hopeful there’s one more move somehow . Trade one of our guy for a vet somewhere. But I’m hopeful every offseason and mostly disappointed by the non-moves in most offseason.

same but can't deny that we have money issue long term and that's maybe why Presti will ultimately decide to keep a guy like Joe instead of trading him and Dieng for a 18 millions/year+ player

Joe is in that 11-12m salary slot . Is there anyone better we can get for similar salary (probably up to 15m)

PJ Washington and Obi Toppin are the two guys that come to mind, fit a need, and are in that range. Toppin is locked in for 3 more years, Washington is an expiring.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Joe is in that 11-12m salary slot . Is there anyone better we can get for similar salary (probably up to 15m)

Are we looking at one year or long-term? I'm not sure who survives next off-season. I could see them consolidating for a decent sized salary on a one-year deal if they are going to end up getting rid of a chunk of salary walk next off-season anyway. If we assume that JDub gets an extension for 30% of the cap, which at this point I'm assuming he'll make an all-NBA team next year, and Chet only gets 25% it will really come down to 1st apron, 2nd apron or no apron.

I think if they plan on letting IH go, for cap reasons, after next season I think that gives them incentive to trade Kenrich and Dieng and use both picks trying to find another big man. If they plan on keeping SGA, JDub, Chet, IH, Dort, Cason and Caruso no matter the cap repercussions then making a consolidation trade for an expiring with something like Joe, Dieng, Wiggins and Kenrich for Porzingis could make sense. I'm using Porzingis as a generic fill in name that would have a role and is an expiring. I don't think he'd be an actual target. Given OKC will probably have three FRPs next season they will have an opportunity to fill in some roster spots cheap next off-season so the question becomes how much are they really willing/able to spend.

I can run a bunch of theories on the roster over the next few seasons, but let's just go with keeping the top 7 in tact. SGA, JDub, IH, Dort, Chet, Cason and Caruso are going to get paid and kept. So you can trade the other veterans to get one upgrade on an expiring deal. Then you have the top 7, Topic, two rookies from this year and three more rookies next year for 13 roster spots. I'd also include Jaylin as a keeper since he should be cheap to extend. If you hit on a few rookies then you have a potential dynasty and you just keep recycling rookies and hope that eventually they replace players as they age out, which will be Caruso first and then IH after one more contract and then you start looking at SGA's decline, in 6-7 years, and how you have drafted/developed to see how long you can stay on top of the West. A decade run on top of the West, two years down with eight to go, and how many championships you can win as the #1 seed in the West.

[Kizz Fastfists]

PJ Washington and Obi Toppin are the two guys that come to mind, fit a need, and are in that range. Toppin is locked in for 3 more years, Washington is an expiring.

Indy is a relatively young team that isn't going to be trading away key players. I don't see Dallas giving up Washington as they have made it clear they prefer to play big and they are in win now mode with AD and Kyrie.

[spearsy23]

PJ Washington and Obi Toppin are the two guys that come to mind, fit a need, and are in that range. Toppin is locked in for 3 more years, Washington is an expiring.

Indy is a relatively young team that isn't going to be trading away key players. I don't see Dallas giving up Washington as they have made it clear they prefer to play big and they are in win now mode with AD and Kyrie.

Thought process with Indy is that it's going to be a bit of a reset year with Hali out and Toppin is a rotation piece but not foundational. Getting Joe back would be a rotational SG (a need since Nembhard will be playing pg) and a draft pick for a rotational PF. They also have Jarace Walker as a developmental PF that seems like he deserves time.

Washington is an expiring, kinda depends on how good the Mavs think they're going to be without Kyrie next year, but getting a pick for him is probably a good business decision.

I'm not saying either team for sure does it, but they're the most realistic targets in our price range.

[spearsy23]

Actually, Jarace Walker is another player that would be a good target. I just think Indy would be more likely to trade Toppin that Walker.

[Dadouv47]

PJ Washington and Obi Toppin are the two guys that come to mind, fit a need, and are in that range. Toppin is locked in for 3 more years, Washington is an expiring.

Indy is a relatively young team that isn't going to be trading away key players. I don't see Dallas giving up Washington as they have made it clear they prefer to play big and they are in win now mode with AD and Kyrie.

Indy was willing to pay the tax before the Hali injury. Now they might have to trade a guy like Obi to keep Turner. He's not the player I want but I don't think they would refuse a good offer.

I don't know about PJ because he's an expiring contract. Joe is still on a good contract so not sure it's worth it.

[spearsy23]

Trying to think of other guys that kinda fit the backup PF need, not really coming up with names I'd be excited about and/or are available.
Grant Williams?
Bobby Portis
Keegan Murray
Dorian Finney-Smith
Kyle Anderson
Jarred Vanderbilt

[Big nick]

So regarding the draft, I wouldn’t say no to Danny wolf he looks like a player that can really handle the ball and is a decent shooter with a good frame near 7foot. Also could see Cedric coward, queen. I just hope we don’t draft boyles.

[spearsy23]

Sorber and Murray-Boyles both look interesting as stocks guys who can play next to Chet or JWill.

Jase Richardson is a guy who doesn't appear to have any real statistical weaknesses, everything negative about him is size related. I don't think he fits the philosophy, but he does fit a need for a scorer off the bench. I don't think we would draft him, but I think he is going to be a really good bench sparkplug for someone. I'm kinda underselling how much I like him to be honest, I'm always a fan of taking guys who are good basketball players even if they don't check all the athletic boxes.

[Xatticus]

same but can't deny that we have money issue long term and that's maybe why Presti will ultimately decide to keep a guy like Joe instead of trading him and Dieng for a 18 millions/year+ player

Joe is in that 11-12m salary slot . Is there anyone better we can get for similar salary (probably up to 15m)

PJ Washington and Obi Toppin are the two guys that come to mind, fit a need, and are in that range. Toppin is locked in for 3 more years, Washington is an expiring.

I wouldn’t look to bring back salary. I want draft equity in return and to shed payroll. I would be inclined to use a couple picks this year if our targets are there. There is value in this draft and Presti will surely like someone. Dieng, Joe, and whatever should have some appeal to other teams as there is cap space out there and the free agent crop is weak.