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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#701 » by Knightro » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:03 am

pepe1991 wrote:Gafford off the table.


Not necessarily. He’s immediately tradable with no 6 month restriction.
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Post#702 » by zaymon » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:12 am

Redick07 wrote:It seems like Kings put Malik Monk on the trading block and they want 2025 FRP for returning.
A trade like Isaac, Jett and #25 for Monk will improve our bench shooting. Monk is better than Walter Clayton for now.


We cant get any thiner at forward. For the amount of minutes available free agent pg will be better. #25 is a good place in the draft. We can cover guard depth, shooting, or big man minutes.
I like Monk but with Bane trade it doeant make much sens
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#703 » by T-Cat » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 am

Let's go all in Orlando for Dame Lillard and Giannis! Milwaukee can acquire both Caleb Houstan and Mo Wagner, whose contract can be waived by June 30.

They can also get Franz, Suggs, AB, WCJ and Jett Howard plus #25 Draft pick, future pick swap in exchange for Dame Lillard and Giannis.

What other team in the league would be willing to take Dame's final 2 years?
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#704 » by Redick07 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 am

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Redick07 wrote:It seems like Kings put Malik Monk on the trading block and they want 2025 FRP for returning.
A trade like Isaac, Jett and #25 for Monk will improve our bench shooting. Monk is better than Walter Clayton for now.


We cant get any thiner at forward. For the amount of minutes available free agent pg will be better. #25 is a good place in the draft. We can cover guard depth, shooting, or big man minutes.
I like Monk but with Bane trade it doeant make much sens


I agree that we can’t get any thinner at forward. However, to me Isaac is the guy who only can plays <15min without offense.
I think we can try to use MLE to sign a qualified forward.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#705 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:55 am

Max Power wrote:I love how everyone’s up in arms about not getting Simons. Whether it was a doable trade or not you’re overlooking a clear fact. The Magic never wanted him. That was the worst two years of fan trade fodder. They were never going to get him, and Bane was clearly the guy they wanted from the start.

This x 1000000. They never wanted Simons and it was because of his defense. All his advanced defensive numbers were hilariously bad like absolute bottom of the league bad. Like Cole Anthony was a better defender statistically. Just look at Portlands actions here. Why did they desperately want to trade him? It’s not like Sharpe is busting down that door yet. They didn’t want to commit long term money to a player that gives no effort on that end. So they traded him for one of the best defenders. Also those thinking Cole Anthony and KCP is the same value as Jrue Holiday… I really don’t know what to tell you.
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Post#706 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:22 pm

An interesting video to watch
Read on Twitter


I am sure most people just think I am a shill for the front office but I will say Kevin Clark does put it very well. The armchair GM stuff has gone completely out of control by blogs by twitter and by some of us. I am not saying you can’t criticize a front office decision or point out the downsides or risks with it. I just don’t get the jump to our FO are idiots and don’t know what they are doing. I just will never get to the point where I think I know more than people have dedicated their careers to basketball and eat sleep and breathe it everyday and get one of the most coveted limited jobs as lead decision maker of an NBA team.
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Post#707 » by jezzerinho » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:48 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:An interesting video to watch
Read on Twitter


I am sure most people just think I am a shill for the front office but I will say Kevin Clark does put it very well. The armchair GM stuff has gone completely out of control by blogs by twitter and by some of us. I am not saying you can’t criticize a front office decision or point out the downsides or risks with it. I just don’t get the jump to our FO are idiots and don’t know what they are doing. I just will never get to the point where I think I know more than people have dedicated their careers to basketball and eat sleep and breathe it everyday and get one of the most coveted limited jobs as lead decision maker of an NBA team.


I'm not on Twitter or Reddit, so I can't confirm what he says is being written on there.

But is there anyone on here who says we should have stayed pat and made no big trade for offense? I don't remember anyone. Anyone who wanted to keep the developmental "no skipping steps" train of drudgery going? Nobody.

Everyone wanted a proper move. Many of us wanted it 2 years ago.

The price for Bane has been done to death. I agree with the presenter that if we end up in the Finals who cares? But the FO did nothing more than their jobs at league average level with the deal they struck.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#708 » by drsd » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:00 pm

Max Power wrote:I love how everyone’s up in arms about not getting Simons.


I loved Simons as the 1A choice. But now that Bane is in Magic blue by dumping low-end assets, I am more than 1A thrilled.

Basically the Magic now has a 4-year run at an NBA title. That was not true if Simons had come to Orlando.
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Post#709 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:04 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:Gafford off the table.


Not necessarily. He’s immediately tradable with no 6 month restriction.


I like him even better under contract...
ORL sends: AB (sorry but gotta give to get), Goga, Jett
DAL sends: Gafford, Hardy (very possibly the bench sparkplug-"better Cole" we need)

ORL sends: Isaac, #25
BRK sends: #19 & #27
*save a bunch of cap, WCJ becomes primary backup at PF as well as C...especially with Moe out

ORL reworks Moe's deal to $8m x 3yr, rework Harris to $3.5m (or Queen), keeps CoJo and Caleb

ORL selects Rasheer Fleming at #19 and Maxime Raynaud at #27 and Sion James at #46 and Ryan Nembhard at #57

Gafford, WCJ, Raynaud (Moe)
Paolo, WCJ, Fleming
Franz, TdS, Houstan
Suggs, Harris, James
Bane, Hardy, CoJo (Nembhard?)
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#710 » by VFX » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:07 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:An interesting video to watch
Read on Twitter


I am sure most people just think I am a shill for the front office but I will say Kevin Clark does put it very well. The armchair GM stuff has gone completely out of control by blogs by twitter and by some of us. I am not saying you can’t criticize a front office decision or point out the downsides or risks with it. I just don’t get the jump to our FO are idiots and don’t know what they are doing. I just will never get to the point where I think I know more than people have dedicated their careers to basketball and eat sleep and breathe it everyday and get one of the most coveted limited jobs as lead decision maker of an NBA team.



You must not follow a lot of league wide transactions. Teams make bad trades and moves all the time.

Signing KCP was a stupid decision LAST summer and a few of us called it the minute it happened. Guess what? We were right obviously in retrospect. Now he’s just a distant memory as being included in the Bane deal because 4-D chess right?

I don’t even get Kevin Clark’s argument here. Nobody on this forum would have been satisfied with doing absolutely nothing this offseason. It wasn’t even really an option. The Magic didn’t really overpay for Bane IF they buy that they are contenders for the next 4+ years with this move.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#711 » by drsd » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:11 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:An interesting video to watch
Read on Twitter


I am sure most people just think I am a shill for the front office but I will say Kevin Clark does put it very well. The armchair GM stuff has gone completely out of control by blogs by twitter and by some of us. I am not saying you can’t criticize a front office decision or point out the downsides or risks with it. I just don’t get the jump to our FO are idiots and don’t know what they are doing. I just will never get to the point where I think I know more than people have dedicated their careers to basketball and eat sleep and breathe it everyday and get one of the most coveted limited jobs as lead decision maker of an NBA team.



Magic might win the East.


Sold!
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#712 » by drsd » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:12 pm

VFX wrote:The Magic didn’t really overpay for Bane IF they buy that they are contenders for the next 4+ years with this move.


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Post#713 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:06 pm

Would you guys forgo the thought of NAW for Beal if he was bought out? Don’t think Orlando would be his first choice, but I think they could have a legitimate chance.

Give him the full MLE and sell him on coming off the bench and still playing starter minutes, no state tax.

Imagine closing with Beal/Bane/Suggs/Wagner/Banchero
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Post#714 » by OrlandoMagic » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:23 pm

Serious question that might net me some stupid responses. But is there a limit on how far out you can trade your future 1st rd picks?
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Post#715 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

OrlandoMagic wrote:Serious question that might net me some stupid responses. But is there a limit on how far out you can trade your future 1st rd picks?


There is in the NFL, but I don't think there is in the NBA.
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Post#716 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

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Max Power wrote:I love how everyone’s up in arms about not getting Simons.


I loved Simons as the 1A choice. But now that Bane is in Magic blue by dumping low-end assets, I am more than 1A thrilled.

Basically the Magic now has a 4-year run at an NBA title. That was not true if Simons had come to Orlando.


I'm not seeing "everyone" or anyone here up in arms about it...no one on the planet looks at Bane and wishes we had Simons. I pushed for him for years but I didn't think Bane was on the menu. There's no regrets among serious people here...btw, Simons will be great in BOS.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#717 » by flying_mollusk » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:An interesting video to watch
Read on Twitter


I am sure most people just think I am a shill for the front office but I will say Kevin Clark does put it very well. The armchair GM stuff has gone completely out of control by blogs by twitter and by some of us. I am not saying you can’t criticize a front office decision or point out the downsides or risks with it. I just don’t get the jump to our FO are idiots and don’t know what they are doing. I just will never get to the point where I think I know more than people have dedicated their careers to basketball and eat sleep and breathe it everyday and get one of the most coveted limited jobs as lead decision maker of an NBA team.


My only concern is that unprotected picks can come back and bite you in the ass since anything can happen in this league. 5 years from now is a long time. 5 years ago we had just made the playoffs with Vuc, AG, and Fournier after going 33-40. I wish we could have placed some protection on the picks.

That said, I am 100% supportive. It's a move we had to make. We don't get players like Bane in FA, and another team could have jumped us with prospects. It's a risk, but a risk teams like us have to take. His impact could be huge in terms of opening things up for Paolo and Franz. Teams don't make it without taking risks.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#718 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:33 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
OrlandoMagic wrote:Serious question that might net me some stupid responses. But is there a limit on how far out you can trade your future 1st rd picks?


There is in the NFL, but I don't think there is in the NBA.


There is a limit...In the NBA, teams can trade draft picks for the current year and the following seven years. For example, in 2025, teams can trade picks for the 2025 draft and up to the 2031 draft. This limitation is in place to prevent teams from trading away their entire future for short-term gains.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#719 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:35 pm

Skybox wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
OrlandoMagic wrote:Serious question that might net me some stupid responses. But is there a limit on how far out you can trade your future 1st rd picks?


There is in the NFL, but I don't think there is in the NBA.


There is a limit...In the NBA, teams can trade draft picks for the current year and the following seven years. For example, in 2025, teams can trade picks for the 2025 draft and up to the 2031 draft. This limitation is in place to prevent teams from trading away their entire future for short-term gains.


ORL traded 2030 pick, so can't trade 2031 because you can't ever trade consecutive years...so we're done with trading fr picks (other than #25 on draft night-after selecting a player)
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Post#720 » by outlawmarx » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:50 pm

Question: so I think we all agree that we are looking at trades to complement the 2nd unit, next to AB(barring major trades). If that's the case Isaac is the odd man out, right? Because while Mo is out I don't want to deal with a Isaac/Goga combo anyway. And when he's back I rather have Mo/Goga than Isaac/Mo.

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