2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[hugepatsfan]

Has anyone proposed something built around KP to Miami for Kyle Anderson/Highsmith?

I don't love it but it saves money and leaves a couple bodies that can play basketball.

Anderson is an awesome target on that contract if the goal is savings. He's got one guaranteed year left with a team option. That means you can stretch that $9M over 5 years if you want. Obviously stretching and dead money charges suck, but $1.8M/year is fairly manageable and can definitely be a part of the recipe for ducking the tax altogether, if that is their goal.

[165bows]

Has anyone proposed something built around KP to Miami for Kyle Anderson/Highsmith?

I don't love it but it saves money and leaves a couple bodies that can play basketball.

No way!

That's helping Miami.

Miami is irrelevant let's keep up

At any rate Miami could make the trade sending out K. Anderson, Highsmith, Jovic and Love. Not sure they'd want to do that but it's something.

[GoCeltics123]

Brad is the GOAT

Don't think Simons sticks though

[Celts17Pride]

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I predict KP is headed to either Pels, Lakers or Suns.

Tough to predict anything with Brad Stevens, we all certainly tried

[itrsteve]

Reports say most likely it's KP and Sam.

So yeah, in Brad we trust.

This will all be over in a couple of days.

100% they should be the targets. BUT, if we don't want to sell the farm to umm sell the farm? We can do absolutely nothing and go two routes with KP
1. See if he has recouped value before the deadline and make some moves
2. Run the risk that he can't be moved, eat all the penalties for that season and simply let his contract expire

Either way this nonsense would be over at that point. As long as we don't lose D White then I'll keep my cool.

-A guard (since we are trading one of our guards, Jrue so this gives us an immediate replacement, if we keep him)
-A guy who's 26 so entering his prime..has already had his development years in portland so now he's coming in ready to go.
-Can shoot it well from 3 and on high volume so should fit right in to our system that shoots more 3PA than any team in history

Agreed. Not drawing direct player comparisons but Simons could be one of those D White type of stories. Known about, respected but on a team not really making much noise... Then comes to Boston and reinvents their career. We've had a few of them. I like these trades way better than the big splash trades which the media gushes over.

[hugepatsfan]

Assuming BOS signs #28/#32, we are now $29.9M below the tax line for next year with 10 players on the books. One of them being Hauser, who still seems like a decent bet to get moved for current year savings and thus off the books. Tones of flexibility, they should leverage that.

I know people hate Kuzma, but I'll throw this out as a high level idea... Simons flipped to MIL for Kuzma and their 2031 1st. Maybe that's too much for them to give up, but you get the idea. Kuzma further reduces salary in the current year (the one we need to save more in) but you still get a pick because you're taking on more money overall via the future year that we have plenty of room in.

I'd try to do deals like that with Simons and Porzingis so that I can shed salary incrementally but also ADD picks. Yeah the players coming back suck but Tatum is out anyway and this way, when he's back, we would have restocked the asset treasure chest a bit to go out and actually trade those filler salaries as the contract terms wind down with picks attached for the Jrue/Porzingis type players that can be next championship team's supporting cast.

[Gant]

Looking at the Celtics roster, one guy that's right up there for most likely to be moved, is Simons. This deal might ultimately have another leg to it.

Getting under the second apron is going to take several steps.

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I predict KP is headed to either Pels, Lakers or Suns.

Tough to predict anything with Brad Stevens, we all certainly tried

Olynyk/Herb Jones make too much money so it would be the return of KO and then a poopoo platter of guys that could be sent elsewhere consisting of Hawkins/Payton and other flotsam. Wonder if Boston could get the #23 back from NO if they paid to send seconds out with those filler players.

[chrisab123]

Has anyone proposed something built around KP to Miami for Kyle Anderson/Highsmith?

I don't love it but it saves money and leaves a couple bodies that can play basketball.

Riley doesn’t want to trade Highsmith. He views him as a piece of the future, right or wrong.

[KamikazeK]

In Brad we trust. I'll celebrate pretty much any moves he makes unless he goes on a big losing streak but so far we haven't seen it.

[Celts17Pride]

Looking at the Celtics roster, one guy that's right up there for most likely to be moved, is Simons. This deal might ultimately have another leg to it.

Getting under the second apron is going to take several steps.

Exactly!! Great post!

[cl2117]

If we wanted to get off Simons entirely we could try to work a 3 way deal with Miami and Atlanta and basically take nothing back.

MIA: Simons
ATL: Duncan Robinson + Payment from MIA
BOS: fake 2nd

Miami were looking at Derozan, I think Simons is better and obviously has higher upside/longer shelf-life. They pay ATL to eat Robinson in their $20m TPE, ATL cuts Robinson and only has to pay him his guaranteed $9.8m.

C's move into striking distance of ducking the tax entirely.

Both Atlanta and Miami could realistically be interested in KP too. Add him in and get some draft capital back from either of those teams and take back enough where we duck the tax entirely.

MIA: Simons,
ATL: Robinson, KP
BOS: Mann, Niang

C's end up with Mann who's actually a really serviceable SG on a solid deal (3/45) and Niang's expiring. Maybe we move up from #28 or #32 to #22 from Atlanta?

It's really unsexy but super functional overall.

[Fierce1]

With JB, White, and Simons, that's a team capable of 50 wins.

Not sure why some would prefer draft picks instead of a proven up and coming player in Simons.

Once KP gets moved, that will be the sign the Cs are keeping Simons.

[hugepatsfan]

Would DAL do Klay/Naji Marshall and let's say 2 2nds for Simons? They get their needed scoring guard and shed some long term money. I think we could maybe flip Marshall into a TPE. In the end we'd have turned Jrue into Klay and 4 2nds. Lots of current year savings, still below the tax for next year, and 4 2nds coming back. Maybe even a 5th 2nd if you can get one for Marshall into a TPE, though might be tough since it's a salary dump.

[jmr07019]

Save 5 million off payroll next year and got 10 years younger. Glad to get off of Jrues contract as I think that could get ugly. Nice job Brad. Now even though Simons and Porzingis are paid a lot they are both expiring which should make them easier to move. And we got some seconds? Sweet!

[hugepatsfan]

With JB, White, and Simons, that's a team capable of 50 wins.

Not sure why some would prefer draft picks instead of a proven up and coming player in Simons.

Once KP gets moved, that will be the sign the Cs are keeping Simons.

Simons stinks. Not a winning player at all. Maybe he turns it around here, I'd be willing to give it a shot if they can keep him and duck the 2nd apron. While I think the move KP, I'm still skeptical they can clear enough salary to duck the 2nd apron off of that deal. But if they can, I'm on board with giving Simons a go here.

[Fierce1]

Would DAL do Klay/Naji Marshall and let's say 2 2nds for Simons? They get their needed scoring guard and shed some long term money. I think we could maybe flip Marshall into a TPE. In the end we'd have turned Jrue into Klay and 4 2nds. Lots of current year savings, still below the tax for next year, and 4 2nds coming back. Maybe even a 5th 2nd if you can get one for Marshall into a TPE, though might be tough since it's a salary dump.

Brad made an upgrade by turning Jrue into Simons.

Now you want to downgrade by going from a 26-year old Simons to a washed 35-year old Klay???

[Fierce1]

With JB, White, and Simons, that's a team capable of 50 wins.

Not sure why some would prefer draft picks instead of a proven up and coming player in Simons.

Once KP gets moved, that will be the sign the Cs are keeping Simons.

Simons stinks. Not a winning player at all. Maybe he turns it around here, I'd be willing to give it a shot if they can keep him and duck the 2nd apron. While I think the move KP, I'm still skeptical they can clear enough salary to duck the 2nd apron off of that deal. But if they can, I'm on board with giving Simons a go here.

Giving Simons a go is the right move.

Cs can move Simons at the trade deadline if he doesn't fit in.

If they trade KP and Sam, they will be below the 2nd apron for sure.

And Tatum is coming back in March.

[Fierce1]

Brad is really great.

There was talk here of trading Jrue for Okogie!

[Gant]

Every possible Jrue Holiday trade had been proposed in internet-land, except the one that happened.