2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Celtics got White for JRich and a 1st.

Celtics got KP AND 2 1sts for Smart (lmao!!!)

Now the Celtics get Simons expiring, who might actually fit what they need more than Jrue at this point with Tatum out, $5M in instant cap savings, 2 2nd round picks (might just be able to use those to dump KP but I’m sure they’ll fleece someone else instead) from Portland while Portland eats $40M a year for the next couple years for a player who’s like 10 years older than Simons

[wade44]

Unbelievable how we’ve been riddled with bad, untradable contracts for years. Then you see other teams pull rabbits out of the hat and magically shed enormous amounts of salary while keeping their picks. I think it’s a fair question to wonder if Heat have one of the worst front offices in the league at this point. 50 million per year for Herro would absolutely seal that moniker

Everyone else is trading their Herro, we’re treating ours like he’s Luka. I’m just saying.

Green, Simons, Bane (although he actually plays defense), apparently Reaves might be on the move, etc. Nets about to pay theirs $25M a year in Cam Thomas and we’re talking about $50M a year.

This front office is so far gone.

Lakers have been hyping these random white boys up for years but never pony up when it’s time to actually pay them

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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4 1sts and Turner for Bam, send it in.

[greg4012]

Celtics got White for JRich and a 1st.

Celtics got KP AND 2 1sts for Smart (lmao!!!)

Now the Celtics get Simons expiring, who might actually fit what they need more than Jrue at this point with Tatum out, $5M in instant cap savings, 2 2nd round picks (might just be able to use those to dump KP but I’m sure they’ll fleece someone else instead) from Portland while Portland eats $40M a year for the next couple years for a player who’s like 10 years older than Simons

Cronin is Brad Stevens' little lap dog at this point.

[oreon]

- They invest in the Jimmy window and get Terry, fine. But then they don’t follow through by extending Jimmy in the offseason?
- They’re not extending Jimmy but then they don’t trade him either, and it predictably turns into a mess with him eventually asking out and tanking the season
- Jovic is supposedly a great young player they don't want to trade, yet he’s not starting, barely sees the floor, and has to fight for bench minutes?
- They act like they’re serious about getting KD, great, then get him. Instead, they put out a lowball offer and won’t include Jovic?!?

At this point, I have no idea what this front office is doing. What’s the plan here? What are they even doing? Feels weak, no balls to take real risks.
They probably don’t know either.

Deep down they don't believe in this core to go all in. But all of them for different reasons don't want to rebuild. Pat too old, Spo don't want to coach loosing teams and the Arisons don't want empty arenas & to loose out on playoff money

[3ballbomber]

At this point is Riley making calls? It seems the rest of my he league regularly checks to see how they can improve…. Our front office depends on late 1st rounders who they bench as soon as they turn the ball over and undrafted players. When will the front office be held accountable?

When will we see strategy? A chosen path? What are we doing?

Boston gets a young player on an expiring for Holiday who was expected to need assets attached to offload his deal.

Yet Riley can’t get nothing for expiring Rozier or a salary cap relief contract Duncan?

Arrison needs to sell the team….

We need some real leadership at this point….. not living in our past glory….

Get Wade a job as GM at this point….

I swear some people just need to see their team shuffling deck chairs so they feel like somethings happening


We had our shots at making the finals twice and being a one seed. Our star got old. We’re developing lots of really solid draft picks. We might have to be patient until there is a move worth making.

It also would’ve been nice if the Terry trade wasn’t a disaster but it was. Not many criticised it at the time but as it turned out Terry and Jimmy got hurt, Terry stayed injured, sold missed FGAs to bookies and now we have some work to do to get closer to contention.

Keeping optionality is important so blowing our load over small moves is probably counter productive.

Patients friends

No patients here. The fan base is spoilt by the big-3 bought championship era. We are currently still paying for those sins.

The process of struggle, development & building is lost in the fan bases microwave-championship mentality. We grind & pay penance for past sins before we go back to glory.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

- They invest in the Jimmy window and get Terry, fine. But then they don’t follow through by extending Jimmy in the offseason?
- They’re not extending Jimmy but then they don’t trade him either, and it predictably turns into a mess with him eventually asking out and tanking the season
- Jovic is supposedly a great young player they don't want to trade, yet he’s not starting, barely sees the floor, and has to fight for bench minutes?
- They act like they’re serious about getting KD, great, then get him. Instead, they put out a lowball offer and won’t include Jovic?!?

At this point, I have no idea what this front office is doing. What’s the plan here? What are they even doing? Feels weak, no balls to take real risks.
They probably don’t know either.

Deep down they don't believe in this core to go all in. But all of them for different reasons don't want to rebuild. Pat too old, Spo don't want to coach loosing teams and the Arisons don't want empty arenas & to loose out on playoff money

It’s funny too, they never believed in the core (Jimmy/Bam/Spo) enough to go all in and yet when the playoffs got here we’d be in the ECF or Finals after making the Celtics our sons. We won the Celtics matchup and were the top team in the east over the first 4 seasons of Jimmy being here. We still didn’t believe, Celtics made the necessary moves to get over the top like we should have done, then they won the championship and are shedding any money they need to shed and getting off scotch free or arguably better off than they were…..minus the Tatum injury

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This new “we’re paying for the Big 3 era” narrative is hilarious too lol, no we’re paying because our front office has lost its mojo and hasn’t been able to adapt over time. Pat goes into negotiations with his championship rings on his fingers cosplaying as an Italian mobster and thinks other front offices are going to bend to his will

[wadenation305]

Not mad at the FO for not overpaying for a 37-year-old. But with that said, remember Riley had to be saved from himself, because he wasn't going to pick Wade. If he didn't pick Wade, we would have never had '06. If he didn't pick Wade, we would never have had 2010. We had to get lucky and get a top-2 SG of all time to make everything go, and how did we get that? The draft and a whole bunch of luck. 2010 was all Wade and his friends colluding for years, planning. Not our FO being geniuses. The only shrewd move that leaves for Riley, really (in recent history), is getting Shaq and getting Jimmy for nothing. But then got cold feet after acquiring Jimmy, never fully going all in, be it Arison telling Riley no, or Riley simply not going for it hard enough.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not mad at the FO for not overpaying for a 37-year-old. But with that said, remember Riley had to be saved from himself, because he wasn't going to pick Wade. If he didn't pick Wade, we would have never had '06. If he didn't pick Wade, we would never have had 2010. We had to get lucky and get a top-2 SG of all time to make everything go, and how did we get that? The draft and a whole bunch of luck. 2010 was all Wade and his friends colluding for years, planning. Not our FO being geniuses. The only shrewd move that leaves for Riley, really (in recent history), is getting Shaq and getting Jimmy for nothing. But then got cold feet after acquiring Jimmy, never fully going all in, be it Arison telling Riley no, or Riley simply not going for it hard enough.

Riley tried to debunk that he wasn’t going to take Wade in an interview in the last year or 2 lol I know the guy who convinced him to take Wade, it’s absolutely a true story. Draft is a crapshoot so you never know but thank god he took him.

Jimmy doesn’t come without Wade either.

[Kobewade11]

Not mad at the FO for not overpaying for a 37-year-old. But with that said, remember Riley had to be saved from himself, because he wasn't going to pick Wade. If he didn't pick Wade, we would have never had '06. If he didn't pick Wade, we would never have had 2010. We had to get lucky and get a top-2 SG of all time to make everything go, and how did we get that? The draft and a whole bunch of luck. 2010 was all Wade and his friends colluding for years, planning. Not our FO being geniuses. The only shrewd move that leaves for Riley, really (in recent history), is getting Shaq and getting Jimmy for nothing. But then got cold feet after acquiring Jimmy, never fully going all in, be it Arison telling Riley no, or Riley simply not going for it hard enough.

Wade didnt decide to the keep the books clean from 2008-2010 all by his lonesome. I get the larger point you are trying to make but it wasnt all one player. Even Wade urging Jimmy to come here, it wasnt to play with him or for the beach.

[RexBoyWonder]

Bottom line is simple -

If the front office is afraid to rebuild despite the obvious necessity of a true rebuild - It's at least partly OUR fault.

And that's because as long as the fan base is content with being a treadmill team - they're not feeling the "heat" and don't feel we absolutely have to change our approach.

As long as the front office fears that a rebuild and a couple of losing seasons will alienate the fan base - they will try to avoid the difficult but needed steps.


So I again plea to my Heaten brotherhood -

Open your eyes and join our Tank brigade. Give them the strength and belief they so dearly need that we'll continue to follow and support the team despite having a few bad seasons because we're intelligent enough to understand the bigger picture and loyal enough to remember the good times even when we'll hit some unavoidable valleys.


This is the path. Join us in our righteous journey back to greatness. Blow it up.

[Flash4thewin]

Unbelievable how we’ve been riddled with bad, untradable contracts for years. Then you see other teams pull rabbits out of the hat and magically shed enormous amounts of salary while keeping their picks. I think it’s a fair question to wonder if Heat have one of the worst front offices in the league at this point. 50 million per year for Herro would absolutely seal that

The key thing he like in life its not just what you know, what assets you have but who you know, the people skills one has, how one can connect to the opposing trading partner and come to an amicable agreement. Pat is like a homeless man Danny with no people skills. He acts like he holds all the cards when in reality he is the grandpa wearing depends and smells of poop. I’m sure the Celtics front office sold Jrue as the mentor for Scoot and to help develop a defensive identity while getting rid of a player they didn’t want to keep or pay. We are long overdue a complete overhaul from top to bottom.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Hey everyone, go outside today. Regroup for the draft tomorrow!

[RexBoyWonder]

Bottom line is simple -

If the front office is afraid to rebuild despite the obvious necessity of a true rebuild - It's at least partly OUR fault.

And that's because as long as the fan base is content with being a treadmill team - they're not feeling the "heat" and don't feel we absolutely have to change our approach.

As long as the front office fears that a rebuild and a couple of losing seasons will alienate the fan base - they will try to avoid the difficult but needed steps.


So I again plea to my Heaten brotherhood -

Open your eyes and join our Tank brigade. Give them the strength and belief they so dearly need that we'll continue to follow and support the team despite having a few bad seasons because we're intelligent enough to understand the bigger picture and loyal enough to remember the good times even when we'll hit some unavoidable valleys.


This is the path. Join us in our righteous journey back to greatness. Blow it up.

Basically what I'm saying is that as long as you're content with discussing the benefits or trading for the Gabe Vincent's and DeRozan's of the world like it's a legitimate acceptable course of action -

You're not solving anything, you're contributing to the problem.

[DayofMourning]

DoM always ready to blow it up Rex.

Ware/Kalkbrenner
Fleming/Asa
Dybantsa/Jovic
Harper/Larsson
Davion/Fears

Game over.

[Kobewade11]

Bottom line is simple -

If the front office is afraid to rebuild despite the obvious necessity of a true rebuild - It's at least partly OUR fault.

And that's because as long as the fan base is content with being a treadmill team - they're not feeling the "heat" and don't feel we absolutely have to change our approach.

As long as the front office fears that a rebuild and a couple of losing seasons will alienate the fan base - they will try to avoid the difficult but needed steps.


So I again plea to my Heaten brotherhood -

Open your eyes and join our Tank brigade. Give them the strength and belief they so dearly need that we'll continue to follow and support the team despite having a few bad seasons because we're intelligent enough to understand the bigger picture and loyal enough to remember the good times even when we'll hit some unavoidable valleys.


This is the path. Join us in our righteous journey back to greatness. Blow it up.

We were top 10 in attendance after Wade left, they aren't worried about alienating the fan base in large part because the fan base has shown they aren't going anywhere. A lot of the randoms that get posted in here on a daily basis dont buy tickets.

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