2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Mik317]

Article was no big deal. Ace comes across as a fun loving kid which is to be expected since he’s only 18, and not much older like VJ or Kon. No character issues that I can see.

No idea what you nancies are clutching pearls about. Thankfully, Daryl won’t be swayed by biased negative propaganda hit pieces, unlike the weak minded.

Ace is still the pick.

and then we take him and his team decides to play hard ball and sit out until traded.

Its easy to say we will just take him because he has to play when we legit just went through two guys not playing until their trade request were made.

Darryl is on the hot seat and getting burned again playing the tough guy when his rep is already **** probably doesn't happen

Teams draft guys against their will all the time. The players never sit out so don’t make false comparisons because you’re blackpilling again.

If we pick Ace, he’ll show up and play hard. Try to be a supportive fan please.

Steve Francis happened. Sarr pulled this with the Hawks last year. And its us lol. If it can happen to any franchise it would be us ,no? And honestly, the vibes around the franchise isn't great and could be more than enough to get outside influence on board to make a hold out possible.

and I have already said if we take him, I'd be on board and hope for the best...have done so for worse prospects ffs. IDK why you are acting like I would be here hating on anyone who plays for the team....I defended Ben's bitchass until the very end lol.

BUT because of our bad luck, recent history with hold outs and the fact I have questions about Ace as a player...its tough for me to get on board pre draft especially if he doesn't want to be here.

[sixers hoops]

Article was no big deal. Ace comes across as a fun loving kid which is to be expected since he’s only 18, and not much older like VJ or Kon. No character issues that I can see.

No idea what you nancies are clutching pearls about. Thankfully, Daryl won’t be swayed by biased negative propaganda hit pieces, unlike the weak minded.

Ace is still the pick.

and then we take him and his team decides to play hard ball and sit out until traded.

Its easy to say we will just take him because he has to play when we legit just went through two guys not playing until their trade request were made.

Darryl is on the hot seat and getting burned again playing the tough guy when his rep is already **** probably doesn't happen

Teams draft guys against their will all the time. The players never sit out so don’t make false comparisons because you’re blackpilling again.

If we pick Ace, he’ll show up and play hard. Try to be a supportive fan please.

Yeah. No player is holding out the entire year. People used these same fear mongering scenarios with Ben, Harden, etc., and Morey eventually got what he wanted.

Ace has a really bad agent so unpredictable tactics are possible, but they aren’t going to sit out the entire season. If he sat out, he would lose $8.5 million. Get drafted lower next year and lose another $10-15 million on the value of his new rookie contract, and delay his first free agency by a year, setting him back a few more million. He will probably lose $20-$30 million, and he will have no control over where he ends up next year. I don’t think the Sixers want him anyway, but if they do, I wouldn’t be concerned about taking him.

[76ciology]

Ace Bailey isn’t going to be passed up because of his background or for canceling workouts, those were just the nails in the coffin. He’s going to be passed up because he’s a bad player, and the numbers reflect that. Morey is someone who puts weight on what the numbers say, not on imagination or the “dont overthink it” mentality, and that’s why Kon and VJ have consistently been linked to him.

If Ace were actually a good player with strong numbers, Daryl would draft him, even if he doesn’t want to be with the Sixers or has background problems. Remember, this is the same guy who drafted Royce White.

[M2J]

and then we take him and his team decides to play hard ball and sit out until traded.

Its easy to say we will just take him because he has to play when we legit just went through two guys not playing until their trade request were made.

Darryl is on the hot seat and getting burned again playing the tough guy when his rep is already **** probably doesn't happen

Teams draft guys against their will all the time. The players never sit out so don’t make false comparisons because you’re blackpilling again.

If we pick Ace, he’ll show up and play hard. Try to be a supportive fan please.

Yeah. No player is holding out the entire year. People used these same fear mongering scenarios with Ben, Harden, etc., and Morey eventually got what he wanted.

Ace has a really bad agent so unpredictable tactics are possible, but they aren’t going to sit out the entire season. If he sat out, he would lose $8.5 million. Get drafted lower next year and lose another $10-15 million on the value of his new rookie contract, and delay his first free agency by a year, setting him back a few more million. He will probably lose $20-$30 million, and he will have no control over where he ends up next year. I don’t think the Sixers want him anyway, but if they do, I wouldn’t be concerned about taking him.

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

[Zumramania]

I still think we should draft Ace. VJ is a future role player, his ceiling is a bit higher than Grimes, and we already have Grimes. Ace reminds me of Tatum. I am afraid, what if we make the same mistake again.

[M2J]

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The reason why the West is better and gets more talent than these East Coast teams in the bigger markets and where more guys would want to play?

They don't pass up on talent like Ace for saying things like he doesn't want to be there. Who has ever chosen to go to Utah or Minnesota or OKC? He would never get past 5, probably not even 4. But, I think Daryl is going to bring guys Houston mentality and save you Philly fans from yourselves

[mjkvol]

Ace Bailey isn’t going to be passed up because of his background or for canceling workouts, those were just the nails in the coffin. He’s going to be passed up because he’s a bad player, and the numbers reflect that. Morey is someone who puts weight on what the numbers say, not on imagination or the “dont overthink it” mentality, and that’s why Kon and VJ have consistently been linked to him.

If Ace were actually a good player with strong numbers, Daryl would draft him, even if he doesn’t want to be with the Sixers or has background problems. Remember, this is the same guy who drafted Royce White.

100% this.

[Stanford]

Ace Bailey isn’t going to be passed up because of his background or for canceling workouts

Anyone claiming otherwise on this board is just trolling.

[Wilfried]

Interesting to see what Darryl does when drafting a high pick. We know he usually finds good value when picking lower.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Ace has the top 3 highest upside in the draft and fits our team need the most. Ace is a no brainer at 3.

[Iscull]

I think I've changed my mind on what I'd like to see.

In a perfect world, we trade back to Charlotte, Utah, or Washington and stock up on more picks while shedding some contracts (Drummond and Gordon). Upon trading back, we get Tre Johnson, Kon, or DQ.

It comes down to a lot of these players being on a similar tier, but we could take on additonal draft capital (Which we need due to a lack of depth).

Basically, would you rather take Ace or VJ at 3, or Kon/Tre/DQ later while adding additonal picks? I think I'd choose the latter.

[Negrodamus]

Ben Saraf being 6'6 without shoes (so 6'7.5 with shoes) as a point guard with some pretty high level passing and upside as a shooter (85% FT in the playoffs) might be the Ulm guy we should be talking about. Kasparas looks smaller than his listed size while Saraf looks like an enormous point guard.

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Side note, if I were a legitimate NBA prospect, I'd never go to any of these euro teams in lieu of an NCAA team. Noa Essengue gets 12 minutes in a playoff game? The fact that that's even an option for the Ulm coach is enough for me to not be interested.

[Arsenal]

Ben Saraf being 6'6 without shoes (so 6'7.5 with shoes) as a point guard with some pretty high level passing and upside as a shooter (85% FT in the playoffs) might be the Ulm guy we should be talking about. Kasparas looks smaller than his listed size while Saraf looks like an enormous point guard.

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Side note, if I were a legitimate NBA prospect, I'd never go to any of these euro teams in lieu of an NCAA team. Noa Essengue gets 12 minutes in a playoff game? The fact that that's even an option for the Ulm coach is enough for me to not be interested.

We should trade down with Washington, Utah, NO or Brooklyn to get their other 1st, then take Essengue AND Saraf.

[Arsenal]

Let the bidding war commence!!!

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[KramerDSP]

Let the bidding war commence!!!

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6 and 18 > 7 and 23 > 8 and 19.

If 6 and 18 win out, I would try to use 18 and LAC 1st to snare Cedric Coward in the 10-14 range.

For 7+23 and 8+19 to beat out 6+18, they’d have to add a future first. In that sense, 8+19 sort of wins out because we can get our own first back.

[sodmoraes]

Probably will be Edge for us then, meh.. Whatever, anyways I just dont want Kon. If we get him, i will start a Konflagration and i will burn it all!

[Stanford]

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[Covi_Marsh]

Trade us your picks or we’re taking Ace at 3!!

[Iverson Armband]

Probably will be Edge for us then, meh.. Whatever, anyways I just dont want Kon. If we get him, i will start a Konflagration and i will burn it all!

I don’t see Edgecomb to us at all. The Sixers are doing a masterful job making people think we want him though.

[Arsenal]

Trade us your picks or we’re taking Ace at 3!!

All your pick are belong to us!