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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1741 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:43 am

HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.


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Post#1742 » by HumbleRen » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:45 am

PushDaRock wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Zeno wrote:I don’t think it is that Simons is a negative as much as Portland viewed Jrue as a positive which I disagree with. Just as a pure expirings with the willingness to take on longterm money made him a potential positive asset. I do agree RJ is a tough one though. I am relying on the Kings.


We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


lol or we can just keep him?


Always an option, especially if we can make him come off the bench.

Otherwise, good luck telling Masai to keep a negative defender at one of the most important positions in where you need a positive defender.
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Post#1743 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:51 am

PJ Washington, Caleb Martin and Dwight Powell is almost dollar for dollar match for RJ. Maybe a 3rd team would want Martin and give us something. Washington would help off the bench and Powell can be the new Temple….unless we actually play him….
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1744 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:54 am

HumbleRen wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
We need a dumb ass franchise to take him off of our hands lmao.

I just don’t know what franchise would be dumb enough to let us give him to them without us taking on a very overpaid contract or attaching picks.

Sheesh.


lol or we can just keep him?


Always an option, especially if we can make him come off the bench.

Otherwise, good luck telling Masai to keep a negative defender at one of the most important positions in where you need a positive defender.

Thats why I wasnt opposed to that rumoured Nets deal, assuming the Raptors feel good about a player they can get later in the draft
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1746 » by SFour » Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:45 am

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HumbleRen wrote:So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.


RJ is gonna be a Raptor for life


RJ is 24 years old, Jrue is 34.....if Jrue was 24 the Celtics wouldn't be trading him.
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Post#1747 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:24 am

Tripod wrote:
The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Offseason hasn't even really begun....lol.

And we already have our upgrade in BI.

It's still very early


Most of the main pieces, not even including BI, didn't play together last year. Also, everyone's positioning is going to be dropped a spot on the offensive totem pole with BI. Should be a very entertaining year.
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Post#1748 » by Tripod » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:41 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Tripod wrote:
The Duke wrote:A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Offseason hasn't even really begun....lol.

And we already have our upgrade in BI.

It's still very early


Most of the main pieces, not even including BI, didn't play together last year. Also, everyone's positioning is going to be dropped a spot on the offensive totem pole with BI. Should be a very entertaining year.

Yup.

Plus we know, or has been reported, the Raps have been involved in the talks regarding Giannis, KD, Drue, etc... Masai is not sitting on his hands, he is still looking to upgrade.

Now if it happens or not, who knows. But he is looking to see if he can grab a Superstar, a star, or an upgrade for under value. Just what we all should want him to be doing.
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Post#1749 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:50 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis


I wouldnt be opposed. coming off the bench and limit his minutes to (try to) keep him healthy.

If it fails he is expiring anyways
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Post#1750 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:51 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis


I wouldnt be opposed. coming off the bench and limit his minutes to (try to) keep him healthy.

If it fails he is expiring anyways


I'd be happy with swapping RJ for Porzingis. A lot of his missed games were due to a viral illness and post-viral syndrome affecting his respiratory system. So long as that has resolved I don't think there should be greater concern than normal for his health. He seems to have recovered from his weird ankle injury that required surgery as well.

Porzingis brings a different threat on offense that compliments Barnes and Ingram more than RJ's game. He's shot over 38% from deep the past 3 seasons, and over 41% last year. Defensively, I think KP would do well in Darko's system and he provides rim protection we do not have.
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Post#1751 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:52 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis


I actually see this, but just don't know what pieces we can trade to make it work. Celtics probably want a big like Poetl back.
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Post#1752 » by Landomar » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:58 pm

Porzingis is still a great player, and I'd be happy to roll the dice on his health if it's possible to make a good trade for him.
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Post#1753 » by mtcan » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:03 pm

Landomar wrote:Porzingis is still a great player, and I'd be happy to roll the dice on his health if it's possible to make a good trade for him.

Roll the dice? You know what you are getting for the Zinger. You are getting 40-60ish games. And if we are talking durability...we already have BI who has missed games as well. I don't love having 2 guys paid 70 million combined missing a lot of games.
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Post#1754 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:09 pm

RJ for Porzingis could be in the works.

I’d love KP here.

Tolzman said yesterday that it’d be nice to have two centers that could do different things. Having a stretch big like Porzingis would do wonders for this team.

He can start if Poeltl gets hurt, but he’s best coming off the bench and playing 25-30mpg.

It’s also worth nothing that we were on the shortlist of teams KP wanted to go to a few years back, so we wouldn’t have any problem extending him if needed.
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Post#1755 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:14 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:RJ for Porzingis could be in the works.

I’d love KP here.

Tolzman said yesterday that it’d be nice to have two centers that could do different things. Having a stretch big like Porzingis would do wonders for this team.

He can start if Poeltl gets hurt, but he’s best coming off the bench and playing 25-30mpg.

It’s also worth nothing that we were on the shortlist of teams KP wanted to go to a few years back, so we wouldn’t have any problem extending him if needed.


Trade doesn't work according to ESPN Trade Machine. Boston is a hard team to deal with because of all their salary. Plus they probably want a big back as well. May have to be a 3 team trade.
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Post#1756 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:18 pm

Fun fact, Porzingis has actually played more games than Ingram over the last 5 years. That is not to disparage BI or defend KP. Simply put, they are both very injury prone, that's not even an opinion.

That's a tough ask, paying 70M combined to 2 guys where you are hoping they appear in even just 40 games together.
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Post#1757 » by TerryTate » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:19 pm

It's quite obvious MU is dangling RJ IQ #9 and he's going to see what can he can get / fit.
To be honest, I would be even dangling Scotty (Secretly) out to see what we could possibly get as well.

Personally, I think people here are undervaluing RJ.
Once of the biggest things that I feel we would be losing out on is the driving/cutting that RJ does very well. This is what creates motion in an offense. I don't wanna be a heavy ISO team like NYK, that just killed clock with Brunson dribbling. I'm sure both people watched the finals. Both teams were pushing the ball, driving the hoop, cutting baselines and it created a lot of open looks for their teammates. Additionally, RJ's corner 3pt % has gone was at 40% this year.
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Post#1758 » by ConSarnit » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:29 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:RJ for Porzingis could be in the works.

I’d love KP here.

Tolzman said yesterday that it’d be nice to have two centers that could do different things. Having a stretch big like Porzingis would do wonders for this team.

He can start if Poeltl gets hurt, but he’s best coming off the bench and playing 25-30mpg.

It’s also worth nothing that we were on the shortlist of teams KP wanted to go to a few years back, so we wouldn’t have any problem extending him if needed.


Trade doesn't work according to ESPN Trade Machine. Boston is a hard team to deal with because of all their salary. Plus they probably want a big back as well. May have to be a 3 team trade.


Trade works on Spotrac.

I’m not exactly sure why BOS does it though. This trade and the Jrue trade saves them about $8m next year which still means they are over the 2nd apron by nearly $10m. RJ’s deal having an extra year doesn’t really clean up their books as much as they’d probably like. BOS needs to dump way more salary than this. Even re-routing RJ likely doesn’t accomplish that.
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Post#1759 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:30 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis


I wouldnt be opposed. coming off the bench and limit his minutes to (try to) keep him healthy.

If it fails he is expiring anyways


From starting for the champs to coming off the bench for a team that has tanked in back to back years while in a contract year... im sure that'll go over well lol.
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Post#1760 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:32 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis


I wouldnt be opposed. coming off the bench and limit his minutes to (try to) keep him healthy.

If it fails he is expiring anyways


From starting for the champs to coming off the bench for a team that has tanked in back to back years while in a contract year... im sure that'll go over well lol.


That is a very fair point.

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