Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[Boardbreaker]

Was there any explanation for the illness Porzingis seemed to be dealing with during the playoffs

[ConSarnit]

It's quite obvious MU is dangling RJ IQ #9 and he's going to see what can he can get / fit.
To be honest, I would be even dangling Scotty (Secretly) out to see what we could possibly get as well.

Personally, I think people here are undervaluing RJ.
Once of the biggest things that I feel we would be losing out on is the driving/cutting that RJ does very well. This is what creates motion in an offense. I don't wanna be a heavy ISO team like NYK, that just killed clock with Brunson dribbling. I'm sure both people watched the finals. Both teams were pushing the ball, driving the hoop, cutting baselines and it created a lot of open looks for their teammates. Additionally, RJ's corner 3pt % has gone was at 40% this year.

RJ’s cut frequency is around 5%. That’s 1 cut per game. His ppp was 32nd percentile. Raptors players who cut more than RJ:

Poeltl
Mogbo
Boucher
Agbaji
Dick
Battle
Walter

RJ is not a good cutter.

[SpiderMunn]

Was there any explanation for the illness Porzingis seemed to be dealing with during the playoffs

I've only heard guessed rumblings of a post viral illness like ME/CFS or Long Covid.

[sidsid]

Masai 'bout to trade for Porzingis

I actually see this, but just don't know what pieces we can trade to make it work. Celtics probably want a big like Poetl back.

They want cap savings more than anything.

The other piece that would work really well to accomplish the goal is sending Vucevic (who Chicago wants to move for any value it can get) to the Celtics, which provides them with significant savings.

Chicago had interest in RJ apparently, but don't want to take on more salary this year. Feels like it would need to be paired with the trade of Lonzo to a 4th team to get that done.

[ash_k]

So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

RJ is gonna be a Raptor for life

He really should be as he is scratching the surface however if Brooklyn proposes the 8th pick + Cam for RJ then you would have to reconsider.

[RaptorLakerJay]

Can OP change thread title and remove Poeltl from it since they're not actually shopping Jak.

[sbsat]

So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

RJ is gonna be a Raptor for life

He really should be as he is scratching the surface however if Brooklyn proposes the 8th pick + Cam for RJ then you would have to reconsider.

lol brooklyn aint offering that

[Psubs]

RJ is gonna be a Raptor for life

He really should be as he is scratching the surface however if Brooklyn proposes the 8th pick + Cam for RJ then you would have to reconsider.

lol brooklyn aint offering that

Maybe he meant Cam Thomas?

8 and Cam Johnson for 9 and RJ.... They need a guard and we need a forward.

[ash_k]

He really should be as he is scratching the surface however if Brooklyn proposes the 8th pick + Cam for RJ then you would have to reconsider.

lol brooklyn aint offering that

Maybe he meant Cam Thomas?

8 and Cam Johnson for 9 and RJ.... They need a guard and we need a forward.

this fanbase's evaluation's ability of players has been proven to be highly questionable, after the prowess of FVV "he is not a PG "in the West and Pascal and more.
Continue to undervalue your own players at your own risk!

[Scase]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Who could ever have guessed that to be the outcome, when you fill the roster with players other teams didn't want.

[ArthurVandelay]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Who could ever have guessed that to be the outcome, when you fill the roster with players other teams didn't want.

....or couldn't afford

[Duffman100]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Who could ever have guessed that to be the outcome, when you fill the roster with players other teams didn't want.

Knicks would still take Quickley (but too pricey)
Many teams would want Poeltl
Many teams would want Ochai

So really we're talking RJ and Ingram. Not sure that satisfies "fill the roster"

[sbsat]

lol brooklyn aint offering that

Maybe he meant Cam Thomas?

8 and Cam Johnson for 9 and RJ.... They need a guard and we need a forward.

this fanbase's evaluation's ability of players has been proven to be highly questionable, after the prowess of FVV "he is not a PG "in the West and Pascal and more.
Continue to undervalue your own players at your own risk!

youre barking up the wrong tree with that, I spent too much time fighting the FVV and Pascal narratives on here; I typically overvalue our talent vs the other way tbh. That being said, the nets aint offering that!

[Pointgod]

So here I was thinking that the RJ rumours would die off after Durant gets traded to Houston and the team we have is the product we will have come training camp.

Then some random twitter account says we are shopping RJ and the rumours are back on.

Are we trading him for the sake of trading him at this point? The rumours besides Giannis have been pretty meh. Rather have RJ on the team than to move him.

My guess is that the Raptors view Ochai as a better fit in the starting lineup since he can shoot the 3 and guard the perimeter much better playing alongside Ingram/Barnes.

In a perfect world, RJ would make making 10M less to become an elite 6th man. Hes gotta take his 3 and D to another level this offseason to justify starting.

That’s because Ochai is the better fit for this current construction of the starting line up. Ideally you want RJ to come off the bench as a 6th man who can cook with the second unit.

[MEDIC]

It's quite obvious MU is dangling RJ IQ #9 and he's going to see what can he can get / fit.
To be honest, I would be even dangling Scotty (Secretly) out to see what we could possibly get as well.

Personally, I think people here are undervaluing RJ.
Once of the biggest things that I feel we would be losing out on is the driving/cutting that RJ does very well. This is what creates motion in an offense. I don't wanna be a heavy ISO team like NYK, that just killed clock with Brunson dribbling. I'm sure both people watched the finals. Both teams were pushing the ball, driving the hoop, cutting baselines and it created a lot of open looks for their teammates. Additionally, RJ's corner 3pt % has gone was at 40% this year.

RJ’s cut frequency is around 5%. That’s 1 cut per game. His ppp was 32nd percentile. Raptors players who cut more than RJ:

Poeltl
Mogbo
Boucher
Agbaji
Dick
Battle
Walter

RJ is not a good cutter.

He may not be, but he is decent off the ball. He is not a black hole & typically doesn't over-dribble the ball. A lot of his touches in a half court setting are on the move, many times going downhill coming off screen. Also, C&S 3's. Other than that, it's transition.

This is when RJ is at his best. He's not an on-ball iso guy. I think that's the point really. RJ was #1 on the team in miles travelled per game on offense. He's not standing around waiting for an iso touch.

[ConSarnit]

It's quite obvious MU is dangling RJ IQ #9 and he's going to see what can he can get / fit.
To be honest, I would be even dangling Scotty (Secretly) out to see what we could possibly get as well.

Personally, I think people here are undervaluing RJ.
Once of the biggest things that I feel we would be losing out on is the driving/cutting that RJ does very well. This is what creates motion in an offense. I don't wanna be a heavy ISO team like NYK, that just killed clock with Brunson dribbling. I'm sure both people watched the finals. Both teams were pushing the ball, driving the hoop, cutting baselines and it created a lot of open looks for their teammates. Additionally, RJ's corner 3pt % has gone was at 40% this year.

RJ’s cut frequency is around 5%. That’s 1 cut per game. His ppp was 32nd percentile. Raptors players who cut more than RJ:

Poeltl
Mogbo
Boucher
Agbaji
Dick
Battle
Walter

RJ is not a good cutter.

He may not be, but he is decent off the ball. He is not a black hole & typically doesn't over-dribble the ball. A lot of his touches in a half court setting are on the move, many times going downhill coming off screen. Also, C&S 3's. Other than that, it's transition.

This is when RJ is at his best. He's not an on-ball iso guy. I think that's the point really. RJ was #1 on the team in miles travelled per game on offense. He's not standing around waiting for an iso touch.

I think he’s ok off-ball. I wouldn’t exactly consider him an ideal off ball player. He’s not running around through screens nor is he cutting much in the traditional sense. 36% on C&S 3’s is ok. His catch and drive game is good. Don’t know if that counts as off-ball play. His off-screen frequency is incredibly low (3.3%) but I’m not sure how they track it (c&s vs drives off screens). Miles per game on offense isn’t exactly the best measurement considering he played the 2nd most minutes on the team so you’d expect it to be higher. He’s not necessarily gumming things up off-ball. It would interesting to see what his splits are like concerning drives and how much is self created vs opportunistic.

[Jerry Lucas]

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[djsunyc]

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i think this is some sort of aggragated nonsense and not real reporting BUT rj + 9 for claxton + 19 work in the trade checker.

other possibility is cam johnson.

[douggood]

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the actual quote from the article is

Is there a potential trade brewing between the Nets and Raptors that could see Barrett and the ninth pick go to Brooklyn

[PhilBlackson]

So Portland had to attach 2 2nd round picks and take on a bloated contract to get off Anferene who was on an expiring contract.

RJ is in the same tier as him in my opinion as an asset and he got 2 more years on his contract.

This is going to be hard for Masai to find a suitor for him.

RJ is gonna be a Raptor for life

He really should be as he is scratching the surface however if Brooklyn proposes the 8th pick + Cam for RJ then you would have to reconsider.

I almost spit out my drink

I understand some people really talk down on RJ for no reason but BKN wouldn’t give up their top 10 lol quite frankly I think would be a swap at best.

Sure Cam struggles with injuries but he just is a better player so that’s the trade off. I’m sure you’ll want to respond to talk about RJ’s age/potential but the reality is that he’s not gonna become a 40% 3pt shooter and that’s what our team would be looking for to better balance out the starting 5 with Scottie and Yak. Having 3 non shooters in a starting line up makes it incredibly difficult to win and one of our shooters is short (IQ). Having a knock down shooter would do wonders for the offence. Instead of 4 out of the 5 guys wanting to get into the midrange or closer.