NBA Trade Thread #12

[sco]

Simons will likely get let go after this season or traded at the deadline. He's one of the worst defenders in the league and doesn't bring that much to the table offensively to offset this.

This is just a salary dump for the Celtics.

I see him as on par with Coby. Their stats last year were virtually identical.

[Infinity2152]

Simons will likely get let go after this season or traded at the deadline. He's one of the worst defenders in the league and doesn't bring that much to the table offensively to offset this.

This is just a salary dump for the Celtics.

He's damn near just like Coby, and people are saying we should keep him AND PAY HIM over trading for a bargain price elite defensive center, lmao! Nothing offensively, he's a career 38% 3pt shooter, better than Coby. Averaged over 20 pts/gm last four seasons. Coby's only done that once. And Simons is younger. About the same level defender.

I really hope the people bashing Simons and Jalen Green aren't the same people supporting keeping Coby. They're all extremely similar players.

[2weekswithpay]

Simons will likely get let go after this season or traded at the deadline. He's one of the worst defenders in the league and doesn't bring that much to the table offensively to offset this.

This is just a salary dump for the Celtics.

He's damn near just like Coby, and people are saying we should keep him over trading for an elite defensive center, lmao! Nothing offensively, he's a career 38% 3pt shooter, better than Coby. Averaged over 20 pts/gm last four seasons. Coby's only done that once. And Simons is younger.

The Blazers didn't have a good offense this season, but their offense was better with Simons on the bench. There's more to offense than scoring. Simons isn't a bad player, but looking at points and shooting splits overstates his impact. His scoring is just below league-average efficiency, and he's not a great passer.

If you're talking about Gafford, I can't speak for others, but there are reasons people should be reluctant to trade for him.

[ChettheJet]

I'm looking at the story on Bleacher Report that OKC with picks #15, 24 and 44 want to move into the Top 10 because they like somebody I guess.

There's TOR at #9, maybe they would send that pick to OKC
TOR then drops down to #12 from the Bulls and #24 from OKC while sending RJ Barrett to the Bulls to save money
The Bulls ask for #15, might have to take #24 and take Barrett's contract off of TOR hands

what else?

Who could TOR get from OKC for dropping down 3 spots
could the Bulls send out some combination of White, Dosunmu, Carter, Terry as expirings and some for the end of somebody's bench, would TOR have any interest in Vucevic?
is there a 4th team to add who is looking at Vuc?

[CobysHairpick]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

I understand that Gafford would provide much needed rim protection and play finishing, but that's really it. The goal is to find a center who can do that and shoot so you may as well acquire a center that could do at least one and develop the other.

[WesPeace]

Phoenix and SAS showing interest in trading for Porzingis?!

[nomorezorro]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

the...oklahoma city thunder...?

[ChettheJet]

Phoenix and SAS showing interest in trading for Porzingis?!

Yeah I saw that, so does the money conscience BOS look for for an expiring Vucevic?

Could BOS send Hauser to the Bulls, and who could PHX send to the Bulls

are there other players to add in the movement?

[NecessaryEvil]

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[2weekswithpay]

The Warriors never had a floor spacing big in any of their championships.

The Lakers had AD, Dwight, and Javale.

[2weekswithpay]

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[sco]

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What changed?

Suns now suck. Now have 3 SG's.

Again, I'd need good draft compensation to take him, but Beal, to me would be a great add for us.

In an ideal world, he comes here with #10 in a deal that sends Vuc out. Then we turn around and are able to trade Coby for either 2 1sts or 1 1st plus a young asset. Beal comes in and had a redemption season as our #1 option and redeems his trade value and we are able to offload him as an expiring next offseason for positive compensation.

[CobysHairpick]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

the...oklahoma city thunder...?

Ah yes, Hartenstein and his 19 min per game in the Finals. Caruso started the 2nd half over him multiple times and Chet shifts to the floor stretching center. You need a stretch 5 in today's NBA plain and simple, especially if you're going to take advantage of Giddey's strength in driving to the rim.

The Warriors never had a floor spacing big in any of their championships.

The Lakers had AD, Dwight, and Javale.

Just the team with 3 of the greatest shooters of all time plus Poole in 22. The Lakers had two Hall of Famers playing dominantly and was backed up with ref bias. Forget a stretch 5 despite recent history saying it's necessary!

[ChettheJet]

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Let me just thank Mr Beal for removing the possibility of him coming to the Bulls. I salute you

[dpucane]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

the...oklahoma city thunder...?

Ah yes, Hartenstein and his 19 min per game in the Finals. Caruso started the 2nd half over him multiple times and Chet shifts to the floor stretching center. You need a stretch 5 in today's NBA plain and simple, especially if you're going to take advantage of Giddey's strength in driving to the rim.

The Warriors never had a floor spacing big in any of their championships.

The Lakers had AD, Dwight, and Javale.

Just the team with 3 of the greatest shooters of all time plus Poole in 22. The Lakers had two Hall of Famers playing dominantly and was backed up with ref bias. Forget a stretch 5 despite recent history saying it's necessary!

Hartenstein was the LAST piece they picked up to finish their roster. You fill your backup center role after you've figured everything else out.

The idea of getting your backup center locked down before you even know who your top 7 is gonna be is very backwards

[Dominator83]

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Didn't he already reject us at the deadline?!

Which I found to be comical. Back in 2020 AK came out and said after watching "The last dance " , his goal was to make the Bulls cool again and a place where stars wanna go to. Yet, 5 years into his tenure, even the Bradley effing Beals of the world say "no thanks " lol

[ShouldaPaidBG]

Throw the kitchen sink at either Trey Murphy or Herb Jones. Idk why the Pels would even think about moving them.

[ShouldaPaidBG]

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Thank you Bradley!!!

[nomorezorro]

pat+vucevic for beal+a lot of sweetener is at least worth thinking about

i don't think much of any of the scoopsters who are peddling this as a rumor though, and it doesn't seem like AK's specific flavor of idiocy, so i don't actually think this is something that could happen

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Throw the kitchen sink at either Trey Murphy or Herb Jones. Idk why the Pels would even think about moving them.

Is there a rumor that the Pels want to move those two?