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Post#781 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:39 am

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Chicago i could believe since theyre stupid and need their Lavine replacement but Boston isnt, they already got Tatum/Brown on supermaxes lol


Chicago is definitely stupid enough to do this. Beal will waive his NTC to go there because of how close he is with Donovan. It will be a free-for-all for him, jacking up all the shots he wants.
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Post#783 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:20 pm

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lmao linking Beal to Boston is ridiculous
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Post#784 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:29 pm

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Chicago i could believe since theyre stupid and need their Lavine replacement but Boston isnt, they already got Tatum/Brown on supermaxes lol


Chicago is definitely stupid enough to do this. Beal will waive his NTC to go there because of how close he is with Donovan. It will be a free-for-all for him, jacking up all the shots he wants.


Chicago is actually possible. They can do Williams, Huerter and Collins. That makes at least some sense for both teams. None of those Chicago players have positive value but Huerter and Collins are expiring and taking on Beal's extra year is basically the cost of dumping Williams' contract. They can negotiate draft capital and that kind of stuff but the general framework kind of works.
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Post#785 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:31 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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Chicago i could believe since theyre stupid and need their Lavine replacement but Boston isnt, they already got Tatum/Brown on supermaxes lol


Chicago is definitely stupid enough to do this. Beal will waive his NTC to go there because of how close he is with Donovan. It will be a free-for-all for him, jacking up all the shots he wants.


Chicago is actually possible. They can do Williams, Huerter and Collins. That makes at least some sense for both teams. None of those Chicago players have positive value but Huerter and Collins are expiring and taking on Beal's extra year is basically the cost of dumping Williams' contract. They can negotiate draft capital and that kind of stuff but the general framework kind of works.


Imagine Chicago finally getting off LaVine and then trading for Beal at $11m more....
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Post#786 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:42 pm

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Chicago is definitely stupid enough to do this. Beal will waive his NTC to go there because of how close he is with Donovan. It will be a free-for-all for him, jacking up all the shots he wants.


Chicago is actually possible. They can do Williams, Huerter and Collins. That makes at least some sense for both teams. None of those Chicago players have positive value but Huerter and Collins are expiring and taking on Beal's extra year is basically the cost of dumping Williams' contract. They can negotiate draft capital and that kind of stuff but the general framework kind of works.


Imagine Chicago finally getting off LaVine and then trading for Beal at $11m more....


Well, they got back their own pick this year from the Lavine trade. This one is more trash in and trash out and I would lean towards Phoenix needing to attach some draft capital as well.
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Post#787 » by gerrit4 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:37 pm

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Not that it's an amazing idea to go after another high priced injury prone player, but RJ for Porzingis would sae Boston 3 mill in salary, and we'd get an overqualified backup stretch 4/5. He could be this season's Serge.
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Post#788 » by djsunyc » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:58 pm

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Not that it's an amazing idea to go after another high priced injury prone player, but RJ for Porzingis would sae Boston 3 mill in salary, and we'd get an overqualified backup stretch 4/5. He could be this season's Serge.


i don't believe boston is looking to add salary past this season so rj would be a non-starter for trade talks.

they are probably trying to get a cap space team like detroit or nets to eat a bunch of that salary and only have to send back a much lower contract in return.
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Post#789 » by causal_fan » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:02 pm

Why would a team trade for Porzingis when his illness hasn't been diagnosed in addition to his injury history.
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Post#790 » by grant101 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:05 pm

causal_fan wrote:Why would a team trade for Porzingis when his illness hasn't been diagnosed in addition to his injury history.


To get off of long term money, and because of you can get minutes out of him, he’s a very valuable player
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Post#791 » by grant101 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:09 pm

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Not that it's an amazing idea to go after another high priced injury prone player, but RJ for Porzingis would sae Boston 3 mill in salary, and we'd get an overqualified backup stretch 4/5. He could be this season's Serge.


i don't believe boston is looking to add salary past this season so rj would be a non-starter for trade talks.

they are probably trying to get a cap space team like detroit or nets to eat a bunch of that salary and only have to send back a much lower contract in return.


Yep, probably their preference. If you could expand it to take on Hauser it might make sense though
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Post#792 » by causal_fan » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:46 pm

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causal_fan wrote:Why would a team trade for Porzingis when his illness hasn't been diagnosed in addition to his injury history.


To get off of long term money, and because of you can get minutes out of him, he’s a very valuable player


If the illness continues to hound him he may not play much next year and is then a FA
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Post#793 » by nivisi9 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:21 pm

Let's say tomorrow we pick like Coward at 9# and the play is to still trade RJ (as we will eventually anyway we cant pay him)..

As thought experience:

If you could make a package Poetl etc. for Sabonis would most people do this?

I am still on the fence of whether a guy like Sabonis even makes us better or if Poeltl's better defense = better overall impact?
or if this is overvalued (too far) and Sabonis is too much of an upgrade not to make that type of trade?

As good and underrated as Poeltl is we can't forget he has ALOT of debilitating negatives - zero shooting, cant shoot free throws, zero overall spacing, basically cant play at end of games, not really built for playoff crunch time, capped at 25-28mpg and will want close to 30mil on an extension

Would you rather invest 30 mil in a player who isn't so limited?

We have to look at things on the margin like this in the way we are building (no more high lottery picks) , it likely has to be an Indy model of depth and contribution across the board in versatile facets.

In a scenario where we do take Coward and he's the RJ replacement now or near future, what would be the big fish move that makes sense?

PG- Quickley
SG- Coward
SF- Ingram
PF- Barnes
C- Poeltl

who would you inquire about? big fish wise because thats a nice looking foundation to start with + depth (Dick, Walter etc.) + all our picks

A part of me thinks, instead of a star trading, go for a guy who could breakout and needs more opportunity instead like a Jarace Walker?
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Post#794 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:25 pm

Would y'all swap RJ with Claxton?
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Post#795 » by navyblue » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:37 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Would y'all swap RJ with Claxton?

In a vacuum no.
For this team/roster a harder no.
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Re: Free Agency & Trades Rumours Thread 

Post#796 » by CazOnReal » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:29 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Would y'all swap RJ with Claxton?

And then trade Claxton? Sure.
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Post#797 » by Shakril » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:22 pm

nivisi9 wrote:Let's say tomorrow we pick like Coward at 9# and the play is to still trade RJ (as we will eventually anyway we cant pay him)..

As thought experience:

If you could make a package Poetl etc. for Sabonis would most people do this?

I am still on the fence of whether a guy like Sabonis even makes us better or if Poeltl's better defense = better overall impact?
or if this is overvalued (too far) and Sabonis is too much of an upgrade not to make that type of trade?

As good and underrated as Poeltl is we can't forget he has ALOT of debilitating negatives - zero shooting, cant shoot free throws, zero overall spacing, basically cant play at end of games, not really built for playoff crunch time, capped at 25-28mpg and will want close to 30mil on an extension

Would you rather invest 30 mil in a player who isn't so limited?

We have to look at things on the margin like this in the way we are building (no more high lottery picks) , it likely has to be an Indy model of depth and contribution across the board in versatile facets.

In a scenario where we do take Coward and he's the RJ replacement now or near future, what would be the big fish move that makes sense?

PG- Quickley
SG- Coward
SF- Ingram
PF- Barnes
C- Poeltl

who would you inquire about? big fish wise because thats a nice looking foundation to start with + depth (Dick, Walter etc.) + all our picks

A part of me thinks, instead of a star trading, go for a guy who could breakout and needs more opportunity instead like a Jarace Walker?


Outside of Giannis, probably nobody because all of the big fish are not in the market (including Giannis).

The only Big names i could see proably be available are:

Tyrese Maxey
Trae Young
Karl A. Towns
Jaylen Brown If Celtics want to move on, very unlikely
Booker if Suns blow it up, which is unlikely
Ja Morant
Zion

Thats the list.

The last two i just added cause of the list beeing so short.
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Post#799 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:37 pm

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