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Post#541 » by machu46 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:34 pm

tski1972 wrote:If they stay at #47 I like…

Sion James
Brice Williams
Tamar Bates
Alex Toohey
Javon Small
Jamir Watkins
Oh yeah, add Watkins to my list with Sallis and Peavy. Was interested in Watkins last year before he pulled out too.

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Post#542 » by emunney » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:20 pm

It really is a good year for shooting, and I hope we can get some extra 2nds to fill the 2 way spots with all shooting prospects.
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Post#543 » by Bernman » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:28 pm

emunney wrote:Pelton says Koby Brea's shooting rating is "the best of any prospect ever in [his] database". I wish he named the rest of the top 5.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44888875/nba-draft-2025-projecting-30-best-prospects


This is what I have been saying. The other one I read said the best since Dougie McBuckets. And I think there's a little more to his offensive game than just shooting. He can attack some close outs, cut, & score at the hoop.

His d is bad & he's got suspect physical tools. Wing height but pg reach. Narrow-bodied. Not overly intense. I think he's going to be very much an as his shot goes so does he type, unlike Green who can be low usage cuz of his solid d. I've thought Duncan Robinson, but he has a "sneaky" wingspan.
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Post#544 » by benultimate » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:04 pm

Was hoping Raynaud would slide down to our range but he seems to be going the other way and probably goes off the board in the late first
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Post#545 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:28 pm

Looks like we got a Kam Jones bucks workout.

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Post#546 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:46 pm

Interesting. That certainly reinforces the theory that we're looking to trade up into the early 2nd round.
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Post#547 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:45 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.
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Post#548 » by machu46 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:58 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.


I would think that teams like Brooklyn and Charlotte that have several picks in the top 40 or so would be open to trading their pick, be it something based around our 2031 pick for #19 or #26 or something like significant like #47 and _____ for #33 or #34.
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Post#549 » by German Athens » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:04 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.


I would think that teams like Brooklyn and Charlotte that have several picks in the top 40 or so would be open to trading their pick, be it something based around our 2031 pick for #19 or #26 or something like significant like #47 and _____ for #33 or #34.


People on the trade board seem to think our ‘31 1st would be worth 15 + 24 plus maybe a little extra.

It would be risky on our end to draft with those picks, but of course, winning takes balls.
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Post#550 » by emunney » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:20 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.


It's not an immediate need (and he most likely wouldn't be ready to fill it even if it was) but Jase Richardson in the 20s would be great value, and we will never have too many shooters. Think he'll be a quality starting guard in time.

Have said this before, but college basketball was actually really good this year, and the draft is weak because the international class is exceptionally weak on high-end talent and thin beneath that as well.
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Post#551 » by emunney » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:23 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.


I would think that teams like Brooklyn and Charlotte that have several picks in the top 40 or so would be open to trading their pick, be it something based around our 2031 pick for #19 or #26 or something like significant like #47 and _____ for #33 or #34.


People on the trade board seem to think our ‘31 1st would be worth 15 + 24 plus maybe a little extra.

It would be risky on our end to draft with those picks, but of course, winning takes balls.


I'd do it just for the picks but what's a little extra?
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Post#552 » by machu46 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

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I don't know how they would do it, but if Coward drops to #16 or Demin drops to #19 I'd hope they at least attempt to move up.


It's not an immediate need (and he most likely wouldn't be ready to fill it even if it was) but Jase Richardson in the 20s would be great value, and we will never have too many shooters. Think he'll be a quality starting guard in time.

Have said this before, but college basketball was actually really good this year, and the draft is weak because the international class is exceptionally weak on high-end talent and thin beneath that as well.


Richardson is near the top of my list if we do find ourselves with a pick around 20ish or so. Intrigued by Asa Newell as well in that sort of range.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#553 » by German Athens » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:35 pm

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People on the trade board seem to think our ‘31 1st would be worth 15 + 24 plus maybe a little extra.

It would be risky on our end to draft with those picks, but of course, winning takes balls.


I'd do it just for the picks but what's a little extra?


I was told that OKC should still do the deal if the ‘31 1st was top-4 protected. I mentioned that I’d rather not protect the pick to maximize the return now, and the response was a platter of 2nds would probably get added.

I then asked about Pat for Joe, and I think that could be workable, but that’s just my opinion.

Bucks: Joe, 15, 24
Okc: Pat, ‘31 1st (unprotected)

This would help OKC avoid the 2nd apron when Jalen and Chet’s extensions kick in.

I’d do the 15+24 deal without anything added, too, particularly if Coward is still there.
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Post#554 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:44 pm

If the choice is protecting the pick vs some second rounders, I'm protecting the pick. That seems like a no-brainer.
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Post#555 » by German Athens » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:48 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:If the choice is protecting the pick vs some second rounders, I'm protecting the pick. That seems like a no-brainer.


If it was just 2nds, agreed, but if it enabled us to get a damn solid young player like Joe, I’d make it unprotected.

Getting Joe would give us more flexibility this summer, since we’d no longer need to make Trent a priority.

I like that avenue quite a bit.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#556 » by The Wet Whistle » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:53 pm

emunney wrote:I'd do it just for the picks but what's a little extra?


Jaylin Williams & Ajay Mitchell?
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Post#557 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:03 pm

I'm not unprotecting a pick that far out for Isaiah **** Joe. I'm also not exactly loving this idea of giving Horst more draft picks to flush down the toilet with his atrocious draft insight and history. There just doesn't seem to be that much difference in the 15-35 guys in this class so I'd much rather just move up and get an early 2nd.
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Post#558 » by German Athens » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:15 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm not unprotecting a pick that far out for Isaiah **** Joe. I'm also not exactly loving this idea of giving Horst more draft picks to flush down the toilet with his atrocious draft insight and history. There just doesn't seem to be that much difference in the 15-35 guys in this class so I'd much rather just move up and get an early 2nd.


Then reroute the damn picks.

I’d say most teams would prefer the current 1sts over a distant one, but a few teams like OKC or SAS might prefer the latter. Making a move like the one mentioned likely opens up our current trade possibilities.
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Post#559 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:59 pm

Disagree. We can debate the value of a pick 6-years away but I'm pretty sure the majority of teams would value an unprotected or even lightly protected 2031 1st from a team in our position/market as a trade asset way more than the immediate gratification of one mid and one late-1st in this draft. I've thrown out #15. #24, Dieng, and OKC's Top-20 protected 2026 1st for the 2031 1st + Pat + #47 as something maybe worth exploring, but ultimately I think it's way too shortsighted to deal the 2031 1st this offseason.

Feels like all we're doing here is knee-capping our ability to put together a big trade offer for our last chance to appease Giannis next offseason (we'd then only have the 2032 swap and 2033 1st) and splitting the difference for some meh picks and a JAG role-player shooter. The Pelicans just did this and while the Haliburton injury makes it look worse, even before, most people were wondering what they were doing by trading a Top-4 protected future 1st back to Indy just for a pick in the mid 20's.
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Post#560 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:14 pm

Put it this way. The T-Wolves traded their 2031 1st and a protected pick swap to get all the way into the Top-10 (8th) last draft. If the idea is to use the 2031 1st to move up in the draft, fine, but we better be getting a Top-10 pick out of this.

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